next time we draw madrid in europe, we need a proper away trip. 10k fans dropping in on madrid twatting the feck outta their 'support'. cnuts will be waving their white hankies while getting their heads kicked in.
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next time we draw madrid in europe, we need a proper away trip. 10k fans dropping in on madrid twatting the feck outta their 'support'. cnuts will be waving their white hankies while getting their heads kicked in.
Exactly and unfortunately that myth is helping them attract top players that get brainwashed into thinking that Real is the ultimate glamour club where only superstars play. Like how they told all their players to keep telling Ronaldo in public what a great club Real is and how he deserves to play for them. If Ronaldo leaves I don't think it is about money in the end, it's about rubbing his now infected ego that thinks he will be a uber superstar if he plays for Real. A bit like a actor thinking that Hollywood is the ultimate stage...
If he does want to go, can Real(ish) afford a cash deal? Surely that's the only way we'd sell him. Stump up or get fecked.
Its a joke and a circus.
So many players have ended their careers their in the last decade or so.
Only Zidane really has transfered there from abroad and blossomed or kept up his previous levels of performance.
And when the flavour of the month manager is out, and the flavour of the year chairman is out, you suddenly find yourself playing politics with a whole new set of twatfaces.
There have been 15 different managerial stints when you count all of the returns and crap at Real while Fergie has been at United.
We've only had 15 managers since the Great War in 1914.
They're a practical joke and a parody of a 'big club'.
Just been looking at their squad. It really isn't anything special. If they blew their whole budget on Ronaldo, so effectively had last season's team + Ronaldo for the coming season. They wouldn't come close to winning the CL. They'd probably lose to another mediocre team in the quarters, like they did last season.
And you can quote me on that.
And you can quote me on that.
Doesn't matter to them, they want Ronaldo to earn £££££. And it will probably get Calderon re-elected as Real president if they get him. They don't really care about his ability on the pitch, it's just a bonus.
which is why we need to keep ronnie for just the next season.
with chelsea having a new gaffer, arsenal seemingly losing multiple top players, barca having a massive rebuild and new gaffer, no milan in the tournament, inter choking as usual, a semi-strong bayern munich (having the same side that got humilitated by zenit), a juve that's been out of europe for 2 years.......all make a recepie perfect for us to repeat as CL champs.
what the feck? I've been out all day painting and the first thing I do when I get home is log on to see what's going on in this thread. What have you done to me ronaldo? I think I've literally gone crazy.
Good point
and on top of that, you don't know how well he'll adapt to their team and tactics. There are many criterias that need to be considered here for him. 1)If he truly believes that madrid is the be all and end all, will he try as hard as when he was at united.
2) Will the money take away his love from the game.
3) Would the pressure of highest paid player in the game and the prospect of white hankies coming out at any moment be too much for him (probably not but I'm just throwing it out there)
4) Will he cause discontent in the madrid dressing room?
Glamour is not neccessarily related to trophies. We were more glamourous than Liverpool even when their 18-4 beat our 7-1. Real Madrid are more glamourous than us because.... well, they're more glamourous. It might be self-perpetuating but it IS true. I might be biased in claiming we are the second most glamourous club in the world but we are definitely in that group, just below Real.
On the field, we are clearly ahead of Real. Again, the gap might be small but we are European champions and champions of the country that had four quarter finalists, three semifinalists and both finalists. The three English sides that lost were beaten by other English clubs.
If Ronaldo choses off field glamour over on field performance he is inviting the circus into his football. It is likely to affect his performance - Real will get the profile they want but probably miss out on the football performances.
So how come their transfer policy seems reliant on buying players that have become extremely commercially marketable at our club then?
We create glamour. They have to buy it off us
if he moves there and doesn't keep his head on straight, he could easily end up like cannavaro
nail meets head on this post. They did it with fat ronaldo, zidane, figo and now cristiano. Even though we built beckham and wanted to sell him, you can throw him in there too.
And they would have blown their budget for the next couple of years - just like we did with Rooney - and that was only 30m in installments.
It would be career suicide if he did it.
I still think he can be convinced of that when forced to be in a room with a certain hot air blowing curl styling device.
It's a shame he's decided to act like such a complete coward and twat of a human being, over something that could have very easily been handled in the manner of a mature adult.
I think he's in for a bit of a shock if he's of the idea that he can somehow do all this without facing up to SAF like a man. Even Heinze managed that much. All he's really done is make things very, very awkward for himself. Suppose United actually call his bluff and tell Real to feck off. He's buggered.
Looking back though, I think the CL final said it all. The team go and celebrate with each other and the fans. Ronaldo meanwhile, cries and congratulates himself in the centre circle, before getting up in order to tell a gutless fib on national television. You only get so many moments like that as a footballer, why ruin them for yourself with single minded stupidity?
I don't think he's grown up enough to be taking the kind of decisions he is, and it's going to cost him if he's not very careful about it.
I think he's in for a bit of a shock if he's of the idea that he can somehow do all this without facing up to SAF like a man. Even Heinze managed that much. All he's really done is make things very, very awkward for himself. Suppose United actually call his bluff and tell Real to feck off. He's buggered.
Looking back though, I think the CL final said it all. The team go and celebrate with each other and the fans. Ronaldo meanwhile, cries and congratulates himself in the centre circle, before getting up in order to tell a gutless fib on national television. You only get so many moments like that as a footballer, why ruin them for yourself with single minded stupidity?
I don't think he's grown up enough to be taking the kind of decisions he is, and it's going to cost him if he's not very careful about it.
Agree with most of that. Except the CL final celebration thing which is just silly.
Ronaldo comes across as an indecisive thick footballer who is basking in the media hype. Hence all the 2-3 days announcements. I have a feeling he hasn't even made a proper decision yet. It's all quite embarassing. I'd love to be a fly on the wall when he has to meet SAF.
But the Ronaldo on the pitch is so good which is why I still want him at OT despite all of this.
I suppose part of their glamour is that they buy 'world superstars'. They also bought Zidane, fat Ronaldo and others and don't seem concerned about breaking the bank for the right player. We haven't really followed that path of buying 'commercial' players. We've paid big for players we thought would improve our football side rather than the bank balance.
The gap in 'glamour' between us and Real is marginal but I would say they are slightly ahead.
I don't know about you, but if I was lucky enough to win the CL, I'd want to celebrate with my team mates and fans, and bask in it. Not sit on my own crying, and then "celebrate" with people I know I've just lied to.
He'll never get that moment back. It's the act of an immature idiot
I think you may be right. Hence why I don't think he's mature enough to be taking such decisions without going by someone he can actually trust to look out for him (i.e. not someone looking out for their own interests, like Real, Scolari, or even Fergie). He's fecking about with his own life, and being far too public about it, despite having no real clue what he's actually doing. Stupid
Isn't it more of a case of United calling his bluff and selling him?
Although, either way he's stuck himself in a bad spot - he won't commit to United and, despite his talk of making a decision in the next few days, he can't just move to surreal on his own say so - he's under a contract, he can't just move on his own whim.
Stay or go, I can't wait to get the summer over with. I'm just glad we don't have this problem with Rooney.
When are you gonna come down,
when are you gonna give in.
I should have stayed on the farm,
I should have listened to my old man!
when are you gonna give in.
I should have stayed on the farm,
I should have listened to my old man!
If he had given us five years of performances like the last two years then fair enough; you'd say "Thanks for the memories Ron, hope you do well in Madrid". In fact, you’d probably make an effort to watch him play every week at Madrid and follow the rest of his career with much interest.
However, three of the five years he's talking about were filled with gross inconsistencies, child-like petulance, schoolboy errors and just plain greediness.
In a era where football is a results orientated business and managers live and die by their tactical decisions, it's hard to see where Ronaldo would have been given a chance to develop his game like he’s had the opportunity to do at United.
Ferguson didn't win the league for three years over that period, finishing third twice. At any other big club Fergie would be history, especially if he had gotten rid of one the clubs best ever goalscorers for the sake of a 20 year old kid, who may or may not have gone onto be a great player.
This is exactly what happened to his countryman Queresma who left for Barca with much fan fare but like Ronaldo, his first year or so was filled with inconsistent performances and thus he ended up back in Portugal.
We all agree that Ronaldo is a much better talent that Queresma but there's no garrantee he would have ended up the players he is now at the age of 23 if it wasn't for Ferguson.
Ronaldo owes Ferguson, big time and IF he leaves now he’ll be remembered as a judas cnut who betrayed the supporters who stood by and idolised him, when and entire country was against him. Everything he achieved here will be tainted.
Well said, feck him, he wants to leave, fine, fork over big cash, and get some new guys.
New striker, new winger, both top class, and maybe a new RB. We'll still keep winning no matter what.
New striker, new winger, both top class, and maybe a new RB. We'll still keep winning no matter what.
This kid just got his hair wet, he need some hair drying service from our hair dryer to bring him back to reality. Real isn't real. Come back to earth.
When did he say that? In what context did he say it?
What are the rumours, and where do they come from?
Of course not. We screwed him because the club hates Gingers.
Not sure exactly why, but it dates back to the pre-Busby era.
Personally, I think I'd do what I believe Grant Hill and Tim Duncan of the NBA have done for years - no agent, just a lawyer of the type you mention. Look around the league, see what you're worth in comparison, and have the attorney negotiate for something similar, nothing too complicated. Then have him make sure the ins and outs of the contract make sense.
No 10% to an agent, who has a personal interest in having you move elsewhere. Just billable hours, and probably a decent retainer. Big savings, and no BS. Easier to get on with the business of actually playing the game.
he said it in a couple interviews this season. in the context that he's always reading and supposedly isn't a typical 'thick' footballer.
This is closing in on Carlitos
I don't know. Everyone celebrates in their own way. And to be fair that was just his first reaction, he joined the others soon after. You can't really read too much into that.
Only difference is that by this time Carlitos hasn't even started!!!
got it in one.
NOTW
makes sense. I'm sure any competent lawyer would check over the small print for a fraction of what these leeches charge. I suppose the only other area of guidance they'd need would be in endorsements etc
Not going to read the previous 100 pages since I last posted but from what I heard on BBC he's said he wants to leave and I say "see ya!" We can take the quid to purchase another winger, a striker another wing back and have a few left over for reinvestment.
I've said since these rumors started, Ronaldo will not be the same player he is when he plays with us and when he heads to Real. They will not give him the freedom his game thrives on, they wont give him the support our players do during the match and the defenders in Spain are smarter then those playing in the EPL so his step overs and dummies wont be such a shock.
We've given him everything and its no surprise Chelsea's new gaffer is the one to tell him to leave because "the train only comes around once"- except Real have been after him for a couple years and unless he somehow got a record injury they'd still be after him.
He's not a legend to me, 3 years of frustration and then 2 years of bliss isn't enough. I don't blame the agent, Ronaldo is the one choosing to leave for the money. Just hope he fails so our new batch of players realize that United is there for their players whereas Real is a dead-zone.
Oh and he made the decision BEFORE the end of our season??? Now he's disrespecting the club, the cnut.
We'll move on, the squad is still young and in good shape. Hope we get Real in the CL and Vidic shows him how it is to play against us
I've said since these rumors started, Ronaldo will not be the same player he is when he plays with us and when he heads to Real. They will not give him the freedom his game thrives on, they wont give him the support our players do during the match and the defenders in Spain are smarter then those playing in the EPL so his step overs and dummies wont be such a shock.
We've given him everything and its no surprise Chelsea's new gaffer is the one to tell him to leave because "the train only comes around once"- except Real have been after him for a couple years and unless he somehow got a record injury they'd still be after him.
He's not a legend to me, 3 years of frustration and then 2 years of bliss isn't enough. I don't blame the agent, Ronaldo is the one choosing to leave for the money. Just hope he fails so our new batch of players realize that United is there for their players whereas Real is a dead-zone.
Oh and he made the decision BEFORE the end of our season??? Now he's disrespecting the club, the cnut.
We'll move on, the squad is still young and in good shape. Hope we get Real in the CL and Vidic shows him how it is to play against us
I don't agree with that at all. While no one disputes that Fergie has had a postive impact on Ronaldo's development, I don't see any reason why he wouldn't have developed just as much at any of the other big clubs in Europe had they bought him at 17.
But would another big club at Europe put up with the Ronaldo we had for 3 years? His talent was clear, but he wasn't chanelling it correctly. He needed time to develop and play every week. In my opinion if Real had bought him, he'd have been sent packing back to Portugal or some other club 'cause they'd have lost patience, only wanting the finished article. They've no interest in buying a rough dimond and polishing it.
Case in point: Robinho.
The answer is indisputably yes. If any other big European club would've bought Ronaldo at 17, they would have kept him indefinitely as his level of talent has never been in question. Real Madrid may not have bought him at 17 given their recent focus on buying established world class players, but there's no doubt that Ronaldo's skills would break through at any club, big or small. We just happen to have him at a time when his talent exploded into the next level.
There's a lot of talk about us and the club supporting Ronaldo during his first 3 years. He wasn't exactly shit in those 3 years at the club. He was probably in our top 3 players even then.
In between Ronaldo missing the first shot in the penalty shootout and us eventually winning the trophy, one of my thoughts was that Ronaldo would never leave us this Summer after just costing us the Champions League. I was sure he'd want to stay and redeem himself for at least another couple of seasons.
Then Terry and Anelka missed and we won the shootout. As soon as I saw Ronaldo all on his own, bawling like a little girl, I thought "he knows this is his chance for a way out". He lied to the pitchside reporters, which fooled me for a bit, but now it looks like he's finally completed his transformation into the class A cnut that I was always afraid he might become.
No one knows exactly how Ronaldo would have developed with other clubs for the simple reason that no club was ready to spend 12m on an 18 yr old whose only concern was to dribble past the entire team. I can still recall the foreign media describing the deal as pure madness expecially since Quaresma (then considered more mature then Ronaldo) had left Portugal for a fragment of that sum.
Ronaldo was offered to every big club in Europe but it was only Manchester United who took the risk on him by signing him and developing him in the player he is now. We sticked with him through the thick and thin and believed in him when no one did. Unfortunately such efforts are forgotten by everyone including the player himself.
Ronaldo was offered to every big club in Europe but it was only Manchester United who took the risk on him by signing him and developing him in the player he is now. We sticked with him through the thick and thin and believed in him when no one did. Unfortunately such efforts are forgotten by everyone including the player himself.
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