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ALL Ronaldo's future/comments/speculation
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giggs has an agent. harry swales. pretty much a local lad
wes has an agent. a local lad.
don't know about phizza and gaz.
i'd have an agent if i played unless i was a trained lawyer who understood the nuances of contract law.
Wonder if United screwed Scholesy cos he didn't have an agent.
scholes and the Nevilles don't. Fergie said Scholes was the easiest person to negotiate with. . . there wasn't any negotiations. Just asked United to draw up a contract and that he'd sign it. Giggs is local. He's from Swinton, but as Fergie said, Barca and a few big European clubs have showed interest(and for more money), but he;s not even entertained the idea. Again, United fan, grew up in Swinton, why on Earth would he want to move? As I said, I'd be the same.
no they didn't, but its for your own protection, IMO. when fergie leaves, united will lose a bit of the 'family' situation it has going on now IMO. as much as we think united is a big loveable club, it is still a business.
giggs, wes, keano, etc all had agents. they do serve a purpose.
plus, i'd want an agent to manage a boot deal as well. wouldn't get overboard with the endorsements (with my mug, i wouldn't get many offers..i'd give ribery a run for his money
), but a player's career is short, i'd want to make sure i did a good job in setting my family straight for generations to come.But Scholes never had that exposure, he's extremely low profile so there's not much to be won by United if they screwed him on his image right for instance.
right, i wasn't disputing that you wouldn't be the same.
i was merely stating that there are local players who have agents, and i'd imagine the vast amount of local lads have agents. scholesy and gaz are very rare exceptions. just because giggs has an agent or keano played hardball with united for money doesn't make them any less legends in my eyes than scholes.
That quote from Nani depresses me even more. Ronaldo's heart is no longer with us and unless that changes he will not be the same. Its clear that he wants to 'try new challenges'. This is gonna be a difficult situation for us because keeping players against their will does no good for everyone. Despite our stance on this matter I cannot help but feel that this will not end well for us.....
Where's that?
Course not. Was just saying that it's not all about money for some players. Giggs and co, have had it good. Played for the team they supported as children. . .and went onto become legends. Lucky bastards.
amen.
I know loads of RM fans. and you know what; most of them don't want him.
To repeat myself from earlier...
If you look at the post-match transcription you'll see that 'moving to Real' only appears in brackets - it's an editorial interpolation - not a direct quote. This is very odd since the rest of the transcription lists everything (??!) said by both the interviewer and Ronaldo. If the journalist wants to say that Ronaldo's remark definitely related to a Real move because of the context set up by a question, why not just quote the question like he did all the others? If it was a context provided by a remark from Ronaldo why not just quote that remark?
Ole must get a mention.
A supposed Liverpool fan, who has always acted with more dignity than any footballer I have ever known.
A supposed Liverpool fan, who has always acted with more dignity than any footballer I have ever known.
The Commies won
The remark that worries me most so far about Ronaldo leaving this summer is the recently reported one from Nani. All the other contexts have been added by journalists (from the evidence they themselves have provided).
i think if old trafford was situated in maderia then ronaldo would heve pledged his longterm career to united just like scholesy giggs neviles etc did..
but its not unfortunately for ronaldo
but its not unfortunately for ronaldo
I agree. That brings it all down to a personal level. One of our own gives us the news we are dreading.
Madrid aint exactly in Madeira either
It's possible it's a 'done deal' I suppose - apart from us saying NO of course.
What I'm objecting to is posters merrily telling us Ronaldo has definitely said he wants to move this summer when the interviews do NOT clearly state this.
I agree. That brings it all down to a personal level. One of our own gives us the news we are dreading.
any chance the quotes made up? ..
He's always maintained it depends on the club. So the question is would Ronaldo push it? If we said no, would he cause an even bigger problem? Who knows, we'll know soon enough
It's possible it's a 'done deal' I suppose - apart from us saying NO of course.
What I'm objecting to is posters merrily telling us Ronaldo has definitely said he wants to move this summer when the interviews do NOT clearly state this.
He's been acting an idiot since the night before the final.
I rather not reveal what I know, because I will not be able to prove it on the internet.
This has gone on too long.
Even if by some miracle all of the quotes are made up, which they aren't...Ronaldo has lost all respect. He thinks he's bigger than the club, he isn't, so goodfeckingbye.
Saying that, I hope we keep him actually., i really do hope we're stubborn bastards and refuse to sell. He shouldn't have signed a contract with us. I feel this is an important battle, between players power and clubs...unfortunatlely Ronaldo will get his own way.
Even if by some miracle all of the quotes are made up, which they aren't...Ronaldo has lost all respect. He thinks he's bigger than the club, he isn't, so goodfeckingbye.
Saying that, I hope we keep him actually., i really do hope we're stubborn bastards and refuse to sell. He shouldn't have signed a contract with us. I feel this is an important battle, between players power and clubs...unfortunatlely Ronaldo will get his own way.
Well you have to tell us know, under the hope that most people will believe you because of your grand reputation
Whether we do or not, well, that's up to us.
I honestly can't.
Let's just say his behaviour the night before the biggest match in his career was not very nice. I still lost my voice singing his name.
PM me then, it won't go any further. Promise.
don't push sults. he's not going to say what he knows to any of you lot.
Why is it that in football contracts are merely treated as verbal agreements, while in court and in pretty much every other instance of contracts they are treated as legally binding documents. Why sign a player to a 4 year deal if he can just decide not to play anymore with little to no recourse?
He's pissing me off.
He's pissing me off.
Come on Sults, you can't say something that intriguing and then leave it at that...
By the way, what do people make of the Guardian article, true story, or is it fabricated?
By the way, what do people make of the Guardian article, true story, or is it fabricated?
Exactly
uk employment law differs from us employment law.
the glazers could send keyshawn home and pay his contract and let him rot.
in europe, i think ronaldo would be successful in pushing a move if he took it to court because the court would see that madrid was compenstating heavily for ronaldo and if ronaldo rots, his skills could atrophy which means he can't perform his profession to his highest standards in the future.
'gardening' leave for a footballer/athelete is MUCH different than gardening leave for most other professions where the race against the biological clock is nonexistant.
I'll pay you
Cocksucker
Piss off. This is between two life long friends.
Can't beleive any human being would do that. He's not that silly. And I don't buy that "reporters decided not to tell" crap.
Then what was the point in bringing it up?
Going to have to assume you're lying Sultan, I'm afraid, though I doubt you care what I think. You've firmly thrown your hat into the ring against us OOT'ers so I suppose my opinion counts for little.
I agree .No one would turn down a story like that. These people live for things like that
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