Never doubt the Transfer Don.
To think that someone here compared him to Ballague and called him a fraud
To be fair Di Marzio reports transfers when half the world knows it's going to happen as well.
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To be fair Di Marzio reports transfers when half the world knows it's going to happen as well.
526 pages? Some people need to get out more.
They are relevant. Basic economics.
Arsenal are getting an amazing player too. Miki is decent he just hasnt settled in under Jose. Sanchez though, wow, cant wait
Sanchez would have walked for free in a few months so would be of less value to them. Now they're exchanging something that is of lower value and getting something that might have been valued at say £30m. So I wouldn't call them "robbed".
Arsenal are getting an amazing player too. Miki is decent he just hasnt settled in under Jose. Sanchez though, wow, cant wait
Dunno. I agree he is decent, but decent is not good for top 4 sides. Sanchez is world class.
Indeed it doesn’t work like that, in many ways. Because the only thing this running down of the contract most likely achieved was forcing Arsenal to sell. It’s Almost certain that Sanchez is receiving a humongous sign on fee which makes the total deal cost much higher than simply Mkhitaryan’s transfer value.
Arsenal are losers here because they didn’t make an auction of him in the summer when they could have got 60-70m. And we’re winners because we picked up a player we wanted while fending off rivals. But it’s certain that the fees we’ll pay to get him are much much higher than what Arsenal are paying for Mkhi.
So to say that the exchange puts them at equal value is rather stupid.
The length of his contract (and his refusal to extend it) merely serves as the impetus for entertaining a trade. The 30m now is because they don't want to scare off possible suiters, leaving them completely empty-handed in the summer. It's irrelevant to the valuation of Sanchez himself. It could be 45m or 50m if there were no agents fees involved.
United are not buying 6-months of Sanchez. They're paying a fee now to avoid a financial battle in the summer. You're completely missing the point of the transfer fee.
How would Arsenal fans feel if he bagged the winner at WHL against Spurs next week?
EDIT: Or wherever they play nowadays.
EDIT EDIT: Feck, it's Wembley, isn't it. Had a major brainfart there.
EDIT: Or wherever they play nowadays.
EDIT EDIT: Feck, it's Wembley, isn't it. Had a major brainfart there.
The existence of contracts is relevant, of course. But not the length of Sanchez remaining contract -- not in the way it's being misused in many debates I'm seeing.
I'm From Chile and a DIE-HARD ManUnited Fan since Cantona, and i Can tell you EVERY news here in national TV is about this transfer saga, and everyone says is a historic one. The chilean reporters an sport experts are discussing, in deed, wich trasnfers was the most important of Chilean football history, comparing these one with the "real madrid - inter milan trasnfer" of Zamorano in 99's. Is like unreal to be honest. And my personal childhood dream.
And about the Fans thing, Here in Chile are a lots of Devils Fans, even considering there have not play none Chilean player in the history of the club. is like 60/40 considering the Pep Hype.
Sorry About my English jeje GGMU !!
this is great. I think Ferguson tried to buy Marcelo Salas at one point. Chile has had amazing players over the years, hopefully Sanchez is the first of many.
I just want to see him start for us. We're also going to be amazing on FIFA.
I didn't think this was ever possible knowing the past with the RVP-transfer and even the Mou vs Wenger thing... Unbelievably good signing. Hard working player, great technique, creative, good shot, corner-taker. Just perfect
We had Henriquez, but he never made the senior side, of course.
Was really excited about him at the time.
It’s reached a point where I’m like ‘yeah ok’ when he signs. The peak excitement was 2 days ago for me
I think it’s you who’s massively missing the point but since I can’t be bothered to explain basic economics, I’ll let you get on with life. Bruh
Is Alexis doing his medical now or over there doing all the photoshoot for the announcement?
I agree, they are in different leagues but I fear miki will go on to prove us all wrong.
The problem with this transfer is that we've been eased into it so much that you'd have to live under a rock to be slightly surprised by it when it happens. Far more exciting when things happen quickly and you get that shock feeling when you see the player holding up a Man Utd shirt for the first time. Now it's going to be everyone thinking 'FINALLY' and then realizing that they can finally move on with their lives, but then there's this void that is going to be impossible to get rid of straight away. Just like when you finish a really good TV series and wonder what the feck you're going to waste your time on doing next.
There is a good chance that Miki will play better there. I will be happy for him if he does.
Straight swap would be an incredible deal for us. Almost to good to be true!
No, he doesn't. He's usuallythe first one to break the story in regards to transfer interest.
Nothing on torrent.......
I'm tempted to listen to what hilarity you'd spout trying to explain basic economics, but I'll pass, bruh.
Arsenal's valuation of Sanchez is not 30m. It's closer to the 60m they reportedly quoted Man City in the summer. But because of Sterling's massive improvement this year, and Gabriel Jesus' great form and the revelation that his injury isn't season-ending, they aren't willing to pay 60m anymore, let alone 30m plus the signing-on fee plus the agents fee and requested pay raise. That makes this winter window a buyers market, so the price dropped to 30m. The 6-month contract duration not required.
http://metro.co.uk/2017/07/08/arsen...city-to-seal-alexis-sanchez-transfer-6765263/
the footballer salary thing is just stupid. and no, a nurse or a fireman doesn't deserve to earn more than a world class footballer. if a nurse earned £400k a week everyone would be one, because as noble a profession it is, if you study and learn what to do, most people can do it. not everyone can be a bloody professional footballer.
An asset’s value doesn’t take into account remaining useful life? Ok, then.
The value you are talking about is a figment of their transfer team’s imagination which they came up with when City approached. His actual book value will be different, amortised over the years he has been with the club.
Jake Humphrey is an insufferable cnut.
Tries too hard.
It is a little worrying that Alexis' best football comes from the left, where Martial plays. Oh well, I'm so fecking happy we're getting him, we can think about the formations later on.
I've been saying it for nearly one to two months. Got this gut feeling that it made perfect sense and Mou and Ed would pull it off. Now I'm just nervous something will mess it up last minute. I play soccer saturdays and sundays and everyone was laughing at me when I brought this one up.
When we signed Lukaku, Ed came with the "smokescreen" tactic using Morata. When we sign Sanchez, he comes with the swap tactic.
What will Ed do in our next transfer ?
We need Ed to learn RM tactic of “I have always dreamt to play for United”. You know, just like RM used to turn Ronaldo’s head away from United.
Arsenal want to keep Sanchez and have reportedly offered him 300K/wk. He's refused to sign. So their remaining options are to 1) let him go for free in the summer, 2) sell him now for whatever the mark is willing to pay. His value didn't drop because there only remain 6 months on his contract -- it dropped because the market isn't willing to pay 60m anymore, and Arsenal have almost zero leverage to raise it. If it were Neymar instead of Sanchez, he'd go for 200m. The clubs wouldn't give a feck about the 6-months lifetime left on the contract. I don't get how that point keeps sailing over some of your heads.
His value is determined by what he offers potential buying clubs' future success. That, and the prevailing transfer fees for other top talent, determine his transfer value.
There isn't anything to suggest that it'll break down. It's 99% certain imo.
Some of the newbies when we were going through the bad spell during the defeat to city and the draws thereafter, claimed that Mourinho would hinder the club from signing world class players. I couldn't believe what I read, considering we are in a better position of signing the best than any other coach in the world, alongside Pep.
I just wonder how many of those who were calling for his head a few months back and begging for a younger in vogue ''attacking'' coach are still standing by their words today.
Arsenal want to keep Sanchez and have reportedly offered him 300K/wk. He's refused to sign. So their remaining options are to 1) let him go for free in the summer, 2) sell him now for whatever the mark is willing to pay. His value didn't drop because there only remain 6 months on his contract -- it dropped because the market isn't willing to pay 60m anymore, and Arsenal have almost zero leverage to raise it. If it were Neymar instead of Sanchez, he'd go for 200m. The clubs wouldn't give a feck about the 6-months lifetime left on the contract. I don't get how that point keeps sailing over some of your heads.
His value is determined by what he offers potential buying clubs' future success. That, and the prevailing transfer fees for other top talent, determine his transfer value.
Why isn't the market willing to pay 60m anymore?
I'd say Zidane is in a better position to sign the best players.
I mentioned it earlier:
So there's effectively only one buyer left in the market (because nobody else can afford this bidding war): United. Man City were reportedly willing to pay at least 50m last summer. But Sterling and Jesus have lessened their team's demand for a player like Sanchez, so the price had to drop.
So you are saying that a guy with 1 year on contract left should go for same as guy with 6 months left, What bizarre world does this work in?
Arsenal want to keep Sanchez and have reportedly offered him 300K/wk. He's refused to sign. So their remaining options are to 1) let him go for free in the summer, 2) sell him now for whatever the mark is willing to pay. His value didn't drop because there only remain 6 months on his contract -- it dropped because the market isn't willing to pay 60m anymore, and Arsenal have almost zero leverage to raise it. If it were Neymar instead of Sanchez, he'd go for 200m. The clubs wouldn't give a feck about the 6-months lifetime left on the contract. I don't get how that point keeps sailing over some of your heads.
You don't think clubs would've been willing to pay £60m for Sanchez if he had let's say 2 years left on his contract? That's odd considering how players like Gylfi Sigurdsson went for £45m, Drinkwater and Oxlade-Chamberlain went for £35m, Ousmane Dembele went for £92m, Benjamin Mendy went for £52m, Morata went for £70m, Andre Silva went for £33.5m. Some of them, like the Ox, even had short contracts. So people are paying these fees but they wouldn't pay £60m for Sanchez who's significantly better than all the names mentioned. 45 million for Gylfi Sigurdsson but not 60 for Sanchez?- Status