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Brilliant post.
Why is this such a common view. He's not hit the heights I had hoped but he's still a good player and has had some sterling performances - just way to sporadic in his form. We were raving about him a few months ago when he started the season with a bucket load of assists.
Wenger wants him because he will suit their style very well, he tried to sign him previously and he's a good age. Look at Di Maria's example (FYI not saying they are similar players) who started amazingly, then completely came off the boil for various reasons and was sold. PSG got a great player, they don't suddenly turn to rubbish because they're not perfect for us.
As much as I like Mkhi (when on form), there's no guarantee he will ever kick a ball for United again. What self respecting professional would choose a prolonged absence of no games over playing every week. It's harsh to force someone out like this but it's the nature of the business. Arsenal are not the top team they once were but there's a lot worse places to be going.
Here you go: https://www.redcafe.net/threads/predict-when-sanchez-is-going-to-sign.435648/
Although it seems that there are people offering these bloody juicers every other week, we may as well look to get some sort of Kenwood sponsorship deal going for the Cafe.
I can see where all the anger toward Mkhi is coming from now.....if he ruins this deal and the Cafe miss out on a Kenwood juicer he will be in for dogs abuse!
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Unintelligent people, yes.
As i pointed out at the time, which i was slaughtered for, is that his overall performances were fecking dire, and his performances were either going to improve or his bucket load of assist would stop. Voila.
I also correctly pointed out, before it was considered correct in here, that Lingard should be starting ahead of him.
We bought him as a first teamer, he's being paid as one and we can only compare him to a first teamer's level at par of the salary he's being paid. Under such circumstances he flopped.
My argument here is pretty simple really. He flopped with us and Arsenal are giving him a rare second chance to still play with a top club. He should be desperate to move there. Other players who were in that same circumstances ended up at Everton or Westham. Instead he's asking for a payrise.
With Walcott just passing his medical with Everton I can't see Arsenal letting him go unless the HM deal has gone through if we are to believe that they would not let Sanchez go without a replacement. That would mean they would be down 2 players who can play in the same role, not just one. They would have known Walcott was going for a while. Just a guess but I think just player personal terms on the HM side.
I'm all for Mkhi being shown the door, don't get me wrong. This isn't some sentimental attachment to him. It's just the understanding that when we're pushing him out of the club he's not duty bound to act in our best interests to his own detriment, financially or otherwise. He should do what's best for himself, and not a club that he won't be playing for anymore.
Besides. It's all panic. For all we know, he could be knuckling down and getting the move to Arsenal done. We're all speculating that he's dragging his heels but none of us know anything about the workings of this transfer.
Besides. It's all panic. For all we know, he could be knuckling down and getting the move to Arsenal done. We're all speculating that he's dragging his heels but none of us know anything about the workings of this transfer.
Il go with a deadline day transfer
From my perspective he had a horrendous start last season then eventually got a run and had a few very good performances. Then went back to flattering to deceive after those 5 or so games. He did get a lot of assists at the start of the season but if you remember the view was generally that these were masking over pretty invisible performances. Since then things have gotten worse and worse and he has been absolutely terrible the last couple of months.
There is definitely a good player in there. He has been too good previously for this not to be the case. It just hasn't worked out here and a few goals at important times can only mask over so much. Lingard was widely mocked before his recent form and his performances were never as bad as Mikhi's have been this year.
We do not have the luxury of being able to wait and see if he remembers how to consistently contribute to a football team.
There is no 'we'. His fans raved about him while the rest said that his assists masked general poor performances, which eventually dried up leaving him no saving grace.
I've watched him for years, ever since he came to Dortmund. He's a complete coaster that falls to pieces when there's any sort of pressure being put on him. It's not our 'style' that forced him to be unable to carry the ball five meters without losing it, or fall down at the slightest of contact after one and a half year playing in this league. If you think that will suddenly change the moment he goes to Arsenal, you are in for a big surprise.
Apologies to anyone who was offended by my earlier comment about setting Mkhi alight. Was a direct reference to the below quote, which I found ludicrously contradictory. Didn't think white text was necessary.
Mkhi is a lot of things, but he isn't stupid, he knows he's not wanted at the club and he knows that if the deal falls through, and we lose out on Sanchez, he'll be viewed as responsible by the fans.
I think it’ll be done before the end of this week myself. I can’t imagine either player is enjoying sitting on the sidelines. Plus another fortnight training and not playing with that atmosphere around the place isn’t helping anyone.
I reckon I could have written this tweet, just by the most logical speculation.
Maybe some fans are going too hard against Mkhi, but I don't understand those defending him on this issue either. He has failed to deliver and is now in the market, so if he doesn't leave in January he'll leave next summer. There's a good chance for us to sign an excellent player and a good chance for him to revitalize his career, playing for a good dynamic football team in the Prem. Putting the brakes on this on purpose and asking for silly money is just a childish and immature behaviour, which goest against our interests at the same time. We should be respectful with the guy but his time here is over. Just show some dignity and move on, man.
Welcome to modern-day journalism.
Yeah, adds absolutely nothing wtf was that!
That's your opinion and that's fine. You can argue whether he's failed to do his job or Mourinho failed to identify the right man for the job. It doesn't matter. On the professional market, whether it's football or something else it's normal to negotiate when in a position to do so and that's no cause for embarrassment imo.
That's delightfully ironic next to some of the stuff I've read on here since yesterday
I think saying he has failed is a little hard to argue. Jose definitely failed to identify the right man for the job. Those are not mutually exclusive.
He will be fully aware that his negotiating position is purely based on his incapability to do the job and Sanchez's quality. His holding us over a barrel is embarrassing to me. If this transfer was based on his form being so excellent that arsenal were actively trying for him then he would be 100% justified.
As a disclaimer we don't actually know whether he has asked for any pay off or any improved contract.
From a moral point of view it's normal to expect the club to honor their contract with him. Maybe that's all he wants. Maybe he doesn't want to go to Arsenal and who could blame him.
From a moral point of view you don't get to remain at an elite club unless you do your job. That's why they pay you in the first place. Mkhitaryan should be courted by the likes of Everton or Palace by now. Instead he's being courted by Arsenal. He should be thanking his lucky stars for that. Instead he's asking for a payrise.
Actually I think his negotiating position is based on the fact we're trying to send him to a specific club to facilitate a specific move. If he was just on the market he wouldn't have the same leverage, that's obvious.
If we want the move more than he does, fair play for him (his agent) for trying to get the best possible deal.
Which idiot mentioned that....
Don't think a cash only deal for Sanchez is an option for United, it was Arsenal that wanted Mkhitaryan and have offered us Sanchez in a straight swap, United didn't go to Arsenal as was first reported and ask for Sanchez and be told give us Mkhitaryan and you can have him.
Show me the receipts.
Would we want to send him anywhere if he was contributing in the way we expected when we purchased him for millions of pounds and gave him a massive contract?
Sounds like chicken or the egg to me.
You're right of course, we don't know anything and if these claims are true then they're surely the work of his agent. But I don't think it's embarrassing for him to put his foot down against a move. It's simply his choice. Having said that, there are always deals that can be made if enough money is offered and his agent knows that.
It would be interesting to see what happens. I think if it got to that stage Arsenal would have to be pragmatic and realise that 30 odd million is much better than nothing in a few months time.
Sleeping? He was announced like an hour before KO at Wembley.
Where did you get that info from ?
That is true but as much as it gets lost due to agent power, he still works for Mikhi. When you say put his foot down about the move it depends what you mean. If he said that he doesn't want to go to Arsenal and wants to stay and fight for his place I'd respect that. Just trying to leverage his self inflicted situation seems cringe worthy, not illegal and probably pretty smart but not respectable imo.
Wasn't it officially announced on the website at like midnight?
It was an announced that a deal was agreed just before kick off. He was actually confirmed as a united player at about half past midnight, on Tuesday morning.
Pogba was announced late in the evening after that Stormy video wasn't he?
I was joking that his pay rise is compensation for having to go play at Arsenal
you joke ruiner you!
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