Alexis Mac Allister | Moves to Liverpool for 35m according to Romano

[Lash]

And Fernandes ends up where, sorry? As I said, I reckon you run into the same pitfalls if you simply replace Eriksen with Mac Allister in our current midfield trio. You need far more of a ball retention pass magnet next to Casemiro and let Fernandes do his thing further up the field.

I like what I’ve seen of Lavia too, though I do think the jump for him would be far far greater than Caciedo who already plays at such a progressive side

As he always does, on the right or behind the striker. I don't think you need a wildly impressive defender, just an aggressive an energetic midfielder who closes down well - which he does well.

I think Mac Allister wouldn't command an extortionate fee. They paid 8m for him, he's given them 4 seasons and he's the one they would actually consider letting go. Caicedo is just not an option unless you want to pay £80m+. I think you Add Mac Allister and Lavia to our midfield options in Eriksen, Bruno, Casemiro, and probably Sabitzer - that's some incredible squad balance there. I genuinely think you could get Lavia and Mac Allister for the same price as Caicedo.

He doesn't need to come in and displace Casemiro though, he can slowly take over the reigns. He can also play with him if we need to be more compact.

 

[ClassAct147]

No where near good enough if we're striving to be the best again.
We have enough average players and would no doubt pay 3 times what he's worth for his signature.

 

[Member 58925]

Yeah just not the type of player we need at all. Would be an expensive bench midfielder like Fred, Sabitzer, Donny. He's not a deep or advanced playmaker. He's an energetic midfielder who pops up in good positions but that's about it.

Not remotely true

 

[bosnian_red]

Not remotely true

Playmakers dominate games in terms of touches and create chances or play a key role in progression through passing or carrying. He doesn't do any of those things to a high level. Average at those, very good at some other things but it's at the "energetic box to box" type of things.

Would be a good signing for Liverpool. Would not fit United. He's like a discount Bellingham, who also just isn't a playmaker and this not what United need.

 

[dinostar77]

Playmakers dominate games in terms of touches and create chances or play a key role in progression through passing or carrying. He doesn't do any of those things to a high level. Average at those, very good at some other things but it's at the "energetic box to box" type of things.

Would be a good signing for Liverpool. Would not fit United. He's like a discount Bellingham, who also just isn't a playmaker and this not what United need.

Id agree with that. Hes a henderson/winjaldium replacement for liverpool.

 

[KikiDaKats]

Id agree with that. Hes a henderson/winjaldium replacement for liverpool.

Ironic because both players at their absolute best would be a good fit for any team.

I’m struggling to figure out the language people are hiding behind on this forum. If the assumption is we shouldn’t sign him because he is not a superstar, people should just come and say it as it is.

Some people want a superstar or wonder kid signing whilst others just want a good solid footballer that is tactically very good. Having a preference is illegal to an extent of having to hide it.

 

[dinostar77]

Ironic because both players at their absolute best would be a good fit for any team.

I’m struggling to figure out the language people are hiding behind on this forum. If the assumption is we shouldn’t sign him because he is not a superstar, people should just come and say it as it is.

Some people want a superstar or wonder kid signing whilst others just want a good solid footballer that is tactically very good. Having a preference is illegal to an extent of having to hide it.

We shouldnt sign him as hes not what we need and not an improvement on mcfred.

We have a limited budget this summer and a striker and a CM (younger version of erikson) is high on the club's agenda. Mac Allister just isnt what we need. But he fits into liverpool system and what they need.

We need a gravenberch or a frenkie or a kovacivc. That sort of CM.

 

[Remember the geese]

Good player, but if we were buying from Brighton I'd prefer Caicedo and Ferguson.

 

[SilentWitness]

Ironic because both players at their absolute best would be a good fit for any team.

Not really. They fit into specific systems. Caicedo fits into your system more than Alexis does.

 

[Blood Mage]

He's a system player, he won't look as good outside of Brighton IMO. Caicedo and Ferguson are the only Brighton players we should be looking at.

 

[mariko48]

Ironic because both players at their absolute best would be a good fit for any team.

I’m struggling to figure out the language people are hiding behind on this forum. If the assumption is we shouldn’t sign him because he is not a superstar, people should just come and say it as it is.

Some people want a superstar or wonder kid signing whilst others just want a good solid footballer that is tactically very good. Having a preference is illegal to an extent of having to hide it.

It's basically that we want a player who can control the tempo of the game, in the mold of Carrick, Scholes, Eriksen. We don't want another box to box workhorse runner.

 

[Oranges038]

We shouldnt sign him as hes not what we need and not an improvement on mcfred.

We have a limited budget this summer and a striker and a CM (younger version of erikson) is high on the club's agenda. Mac Allister just isnt what we need. But he fits into liverpool system and what they need.

We need a gravenberch or a frenkie or a kovacivc. That sort of CM.

He might not be what's needed.

But he is way better than those two.

 

[Blood Mage]

We need a gravenberch or a frenkie or a kovacivc. That sort of CM.

Kovacic has been garbage this year.

 

[bosnian_red]

Ironic because both players at their absolute best would be a good fit for any team.

I’m struggling to figure out the language people are hiding behind on this forum. If the assumption is we shouldn’t sign him because he is not a superstar, people should just come and say it as it is.

Some people want a superstar or wonder kid signing whilst others just want a good solid footballer that is tactically very good. Having a preference is illegal to an extent of having to hide it.

Both at their best would not be what we need. We don't need a superstar. We need a deep playmaker who is press resistant. That's why Ten Hag uses Eriksen there. Just ideally a press resistant and younger more mobile version of Eriksen. I would take a similar level player who is just a different type of player to him, one that fits our need. It's a very specific need.

 

[KikiDaKats]

We shouldnt sign him as hes not what we need and not an improvement on mcfred.

We have a limited budget this summer and a striker and a CM (younger version of erikson) is high on the club's agenda. Mac Allister just isnt what we need. But he fits into liverpool system and what they need.

We need a gravenberch or a frenkie or a kovacivc. That sort of CM.

I like him a lot as a footballer but he is not good enough for a CM signing. Good technical ability but lacks strong physical attributes, a good engine is not enough to hold a midfield together.
So I’d say he is not good enough but won’t use statements like he suits Liverpool better because the players compared to are very combative midfielders.

 

[Stadjer]

Kovacic has been garbage this year.

Who hasnt this season for Chelsea? Doesnt mean i wouldnt mind some of their players to sign for Manchester United.

 

[Doracle]

I don’t see anything particularly special when watching McA. He’s a good cog in the Brighton system but I’m unconvinced that he’d be worth the cost or transformative for our midfield.

 

[KikiDaKats]

Not really. They fit into specific systems. Caicedo fits into your system more than Alexis does.

Yeah you might be right. I currently don’t want either at United.

 

[KikiDaKats]

It's basically that we want a player who can control the tempo of the game, in the mold of Carrick, Scholes, Eriksen. We don't want another box to box workhorse runner.

I differ in opinion here because I want a Fred with good physical and technical attributes. I will not partner Carrick with Casemiro nor a Scholes or Eriksen without a combative midfielder next to them. Unless you think Carrick and Kroos/De Jong are like for like.

 

[KikiDaKats]

Both at their best would not be what we need. We don't need a superstar. We need a deep playmaker who is press resistant. That's why Ten Hag uses Eriksen there. Just ideally a press resistant and younger more mobile version of Eriksen. I would take a similar level player who is just a different type of player to him, one that fits our need. It's a very specific need.

Ok.

 

[Crimson King]

Not really. They fit into specific systems. Caicedo fits into your system more than Alexis does.

Whenever I've watched Alexis pay he almost always looks better a bit further forward closer to a #10. Really isn't the player we need in midfield right now.

 

[Abraxas]

Good player. Very good, possibly. But I don't really see him threatening to be one of the world's best. He's just a very good PL player. No area of his game wows me but at the same time he does most stuff quite well. I think he improves us but not to a transformative extent. Whereas the more I see of Caicedo, the more I think potential world beater in a couple of years.

 

[ElectroManiac]

If we sign him and Fred plays we can still call it the McFred midfield.

 

[Idxomer]

Like Sabitzer is the better version of VDB, this guy is the better version of the former.

Not what's needed, but Ten Hag seems to like this type of attacking midfielder.

 

[dinostar77]

Kovacic has been garbage this year.

So have chelsea in general. But with one year on his deal left and chelsea having to sell, who knows if utd would be interested? We cant get frenkie. Bayern have said gravenberch is not for sale this summer. Im personally not sure whos out there and potentially available as a CM who fits ETH's of a ball carrying CM who cam dribble and can break a press. Kovacic as 'garbage' as ges been for chelsea might get back to tge player madrid signed. Or not.

 

[Lash]

Interested in an example of a profile here people want, as I liken Mac Allister to Gundogan, who would certainly work in our system. You can't always get the top 10th percentile of every category, but as long you're effective (which he is), there is scope to raise his game in a better side.

 

[KikiDaKats]

Interested in an example of a profile here people want, as I liken Mac Allister to Gundogan, who would certainly work in our system. You can't always get the top 10th percentile of every category, but as long you're effective (which he is), there is scope to raise his game in a better side.

Nope, we want De Jong and we wait for him to retire from Barca. I’d like to think our manager has moved on but we’re all trying to get him a clone.

 

[Jam]

If we sign him and Fred plays we can still call it the McFred midfield.

McFred is dead, long live MacFred.

 

[Lash]

Nope, we want De Jong and we wait for him to retire from Barca. I’d like to think our manager has moved on but we’re all trying to get him a clone.

I don't mind if we get a clone, but I don't really see anyone like him that wouldn't be a huge risk. I don't really rate the argument "he's not what we need", as we are talking about upgrading Fred, Mctominay and Eriksen.

 

[bosnian_red]

I don't mind if we get a clone, but I don't really see anyone like him that wouldn't be a huge risk. I don't really rate the argument "he's not what we need", as we are talking about upgrading Fred, Mctominay and Eriksen.

Upgrading on eriksen for our systems needs isn't exactly an easy thing that any standard midfielder can do. He's top 4 standard for that position.

 

[Lash]

Upgrading on eriksen for our systems needs isn't exactly an easy thing that any standard midfielder can do. He's top 4 standard for that position.

But you don't have to buy a direct Eriksen replacement to improve out midfield. It's about improving the squad in midfield and not to mention Mac Allister has had a huge impact on Brighton's goal action creation and part of a WC winning side. You just won't find a profile like him, that is available, on the market right now.

 

[KikiDaKats]

I don't mind if we get a clone, but I don't really see anyone like him that wouldn't be a huge risk. I don't really rate the argument "he's not what we need", as we are talking about upgrading Fred, Mctominay and Eriksen.

It’s the go to argument stance. I’ve always thought players under 24, the conversation should be about how much room for potential growth they have. Especially when it comes to a transfer to higher expectation club. We don’t even discuss their football journey or challenges they have overcome or adaptability to tactics, it’s all about their current environment and we use it as an absolute true representation of them.

 

[dinostar77]

Nope, we want De Jong and we wait for him to retire from Barca. I’d like to think our manager has moved on but we’re all trying to get him a clone.

Who knows FDJ could be a scarifical lamb this summer. Barcelona need to raise £90mil and use another economic leaver to get messi back for next season according to reports in spain. Wouldnt suprise me if we paid the £60-70mil of what they require for FDJ.

 

[dinostar77]

Upgrading on eriksen for our systems needs isn't exactly an easy thing that any standard midfielder can do. He's top 4 standard for that position.

Eriksen upgrade wont be cheap, especially someone coming into their prime years. Ome helluva football player.

 

[bosnian_red]

But you don't have to buy a direct Eriksen replacement to improve out midfield. It's about improving the squad in midfield and not to mention Mac Allister has had a huge impact on Brighton's goal action creation and part of a WC winning side. You just won't find a profile like him, that is available, on the market right now.

IMO there are loads of Mac Allister types. He's not a bad player, but he'll be 50/60m, and it's a box to box essentially. We don't need a box to box. Ten Hag doesn't want a box to box. We need a press resistant deep playmaker. That's what will help us dominate games, that's what will transform us in midfield. If there isn't anybody around this summer then we just wait until we have a bigger budget. Spending big for "incremental upgrades" (if any upgrade) at this point just isn't smart when we already have a good level and we'd need to upgrade that player soon anyway.

Lavia for me has to be the priority in midfield. If we are able to also get Kokcu, then he'd make sense as a high potential player who can transition with Eriksen quite well while not being a high cost player, but is still that type that is necessary for us. Mac Allister shouldn't be in the consideration of who we sign in any way for me, unless we have an unlimited budget and are replacing Fred as the bench midfielder. Because I don't think Mac Allister would start ahead of Eriksen for Ten Hag, as Eriksen is far better with his passing from deep positions and more creative.

 

[Rozay]

MacAllister. Kane. Someone needs to stop Ten Hag from assembling the most one-paced team in the league. Rashford will have to do an enormous amount of work in terms of penetrative play.

 

[KikiDaKats]

Who knows FDJ could be a scarifical lamb this summer. Barcelona need to raise £90mil and use another economic leaver to get messi back for next season according to reports in spain. Wouldnt suprise me if we paid the £60-70mil of what they require for FDJ.

We live in hope. I’m over him just like I’m over the Mrs and signed the divorce papers after 16yrs.

 

[OL29]

MacAllister. Kane. Someone needs to stop Ten Hag from assembling the most one-paced team in the league. Rashford will have to do an enormous amount of work in terms of penetrative play.

This is my biggest concern with the players we’re linked with. In the summer we were chasing Rabiot and Arnautovic, we’ve signed both Sabitzer and Weghorst on loan and we’re reportedly after Kane and MacAllister. He does seem to have a thing for agricultural players.

 

[bosskeano]

he didn't really show himself very much in our match over the weekend that would make me say we need to sign him

 

[Lash]

IMO there are loads of Mac Allister types. He's not a bad player, but he'll be 50/60m, and it's a box to box essentially. We don't need a box to box. Ten Hag doesn't want a box to box. We need a press resistant deep playmaker. That's what will help us dominate games, that's what will transform us in midfield. If there isn't anybody around this summer then we just wait until we have a bigger budget. Spending big for "incremental upgrades" (if any upgrade) at this point just isn't smart when we already have a good level and we'd need to upgrade that player soon anyway.

Lavia for me has to be the priority in midfield. If we are able to also get Kokcu, then he'd make sense as a high potential player who can transition with Eriksen quite well while not being a high cost player, but is still that type that is necessary for us. Mac Allister shouldn't be in the consideration of who we sign in any way for me, unless we have an unlimited budget and are replacing Fred as the bench midfielder. Because I don't think Mac Allister would start ahead of Eriksen for Ten Hag, as Eriksen is far better with his passing from deep positions and more creative.

Again, I don't really understand why people seem to think he's some average player. He maybe be an all rounder, but he's an all rounder who creates chances for his team and keeps possession well high up the pitch. Who are these types of players? I'm genuinely curious as to who you're referring to. In what world do we have a good midfield outside Eriksen and Casemiro and why would Mac Allister need upgrading any time soon?

I already said Lavia and Mac Allister for me would be superb and probably cost about as much as Caicedo - who I would probably prefer on the whole. Kokcu isn't exactly going to be cheap and there's no guarantee he'll even adapt to the league.

He was part of a midfield that absolutely dominated our midfield in that semi-final and also created some absolute golden opportunities that they squandered. He was literally playing against Eriksen who was pretty poor. I'm not sure why he's somehow only good enough for our bench.