Alexander Isak - now a Newcastle player

What's his injury record like? Felt like last season he was out injured a lot.
He does seem to get niggles now and then but nothing serious (i think he's only had one really big injury with his thigh), he's not a player that will play every single game but is fit for most of the season.
 
I remember watching a lot of Socieded game at a time they had Isak, Odegaard and Silva. Isak to me looked like the closest thing to Benzema in that he's classy on the ball, the type of center forward that makes his team play well but also has the speed and strength to cause damage in the box and running behind. It was all potential but I'm not surprised he's turning out like this.
 
Think that was it in a nutshell. I remember Arsenal being linked constantly with him for a couple of seasons, he had a proper breakout year in 20/21 then had a poor season in terms of output in 21/22.

He played off the left most of the time at Sociedad and I remember there were debates at the time if he was better as a wide player or through the middle, a bit like the Rashford debates around the same time.

Newcastle took the gamble while other clubs were hesitant to pay a big fee for someone with a mixed output, and that gamble has paid off massively for them.
I thought he was going to sign for Arsenal, as before he joined the Geordies I saw a high-end BMW driving down the Euston Road with the number plate 15AK.
 
Shock that a young player needed time and experience to fulfill their potential.

It's why I have been steadfast in sticking with Jackson through his struggles and dips in form, and why I have been arguing for United fans to do the same with Hojlund. The difference is they're going through their growing pains under a lot of scrutiny at big clubs, while Isak was allowed to grow his game away from spot light. Neither might end up as good as Isak but the potential is there imo for both to be very good when they're 25.
 
Sweden must have some team. Could put a front 3 of him, Gyokeres and Kuluveski out.
 
It's why I have been steadfast in sticking with Jackson through his struggles and dips in form, and why I have been arguing for United fans to do the same with Hojlund. The difference is they're going through their growing pains under a lot of scrutiny at big clubs, while Isak was allowed to grow his game away from spot light. Neither might end up as good as Isak but the potential is there imo for both to be very good when they're 25.

Both may be good enough some day but right now Jackson shows a lot more worth persisting with and looks a lot closer to being ready. He knows how to get himself into positions to have chances. Hojlund looks out of his depth. Either way they should probably both be backups, but Jackson is closer to being good enough currently.
 
It’s not really classic. Rather generic and typical. Sesko is the Isak-adjacent now; similar ability and potential path. These things are common and happen with every generation.

And if he turns out to be average we will all just forget about him and move onto asking why we didn't move heaven and earth for the next player who transitioned from potentially elite to actually elite.

70m is the tip of the iceberg. apparently newcastle had to buy him a house big enough to fit in all the kallax and pax wardrobe furniture that ikea provide. they had to buy volvos for his whole family, and they spend £50 a day on meatballs for him.

:)

Those IKEA meatballs are tasty AF. I don't want to know what goes into them though.
 
Sweden must have some team. Could put a front 3 of him, Gyokeres and Kuluveski out.

It’s crazy, after Ibrahimovic you thought they wouldn’t see another top striker for years to come. Now just a few years later they’ve got 2 of them! Plus a couple of quality wide men as well.
 
Thought he was a few years older than he actually is, like 28 or something.

Perfect age for a big money move this summer to have his peak at a competing club. Think Arsenal (and ourselves) would do well to be in for him. But a) Newcastle won't want to sell him if they intend to be competitive long-term and b) he'll probably cost near 100m if he's available.
 
Not really. By the time Isak joined Newcastle, he had played 107 games (33 goals) in la liga and 14 games (3 goals) in the Europa league.

Goals aside that’s a lot of scout-able footage in a top league.

We signed Hojlund to be our main striker based on 32 games (9goals) in Serie A. Also his first season playing over 30 games in any league.

A classic example of our fanbase looking at a player than has hit a really good patch of form and asking why we didn't in hindsight fork out £70m for him. Sometimes these things work out and sometimes they don't. Hes worked out for Newcastle but that wasn't a sure thing.
 
And if he turns out to be average we will all just forget about him and move onto asking why we didn't move heaven and earth for the next player who transitioned from potentially elite to actually elite.
I don’t know if this is a gripe or you just pointing out the reality?

But yeah, it’s pretty much Highlander-esque in that in the end, there can only be one (but obviously, more likely a few) who get to the promised land and realise their potential. It’s just that the odds shorten a lot when the talent is clear and present with pretty much every action. I think I’m of a different mindset when it comes to young strikers in that productivity isn’t particularly important to me, so when people use that as the measure of success/failure for a young forward, it doesn’t really resonate. What I want to see is oodles of technical ability, ingenuity, difficulty in preventing them from what they are trying to do and things like that. Goals are a bonus at such young ages, but that ability to do what you set out to do is a real marker for the future because that’s about you tightening up aspects of your own game and the outside world has no influence on that.

I want to see a young striker do something impressive and miss the target more than I want to see them score bags of goals that might suggest a purple patch - if the ability is there for them to do impressive things on command and more often than not, I am going to expect [a lot] more from that player in the future, where as the supposed prolific scorer might need more of a deep dive to see if what they are doing is sustainable. I know I have some post about Isak somewhere being rather excited by what I had seen at Sociedad, but no clue where I put it, but I am pretty certain it will be about how he’s doing what he’s doing over goals in and of themselves. I think it’s the sounder marker, and if I were a scout, the kind of thing I would be looking out for when making the call on future success.

As I said, Sesko is more the Isak-adjacent than any young player making a name at the moment. Clubs are just waiting for him to put his game together and then they will go in. Whether he makes it to the very top is unknown, but the technical quality and tools to do so look like they are lined up.
 
Best striker in the world right now I think, and my favorite to watch of what's been a shit generation of striker prospects.

Loved watching this guy even from his Sociedad days, such a rare blend of agility/technique in a frame as long and lanky as that and he's now developed an absolute killer instinct for goal.
 
As I said, Sesko is more the Isak-adjacent than any young player making a name at the moment. Clubs are just waiting for him to put his game together and then they will go in. Whether he makes it to the very top is unknown, but the technical quality and tools to do so look like they are lined up.

Arsenal tried their best to get Sesko out of Leipzig last summer but to be fair to him he wanted to stay and hone his craft some more. I think Arsenal will try again for him in the summer, I see them prioritising him over the likes of Gyokeres and Osimhen. Isak is just too unobtainable for me now.
 
The kind of signing we could have made ahead of Newcastle had we not got clowns in charge of recruitment then
 
The kind of signing we could have made ahead of Newcastle had we not got clowns in charge of recruitment then
It’s been debunked numerous times here but he was far from a sure thing when Newcastle signed him for that kind of money.
He scored 6 goals the previous season and was not highly rated at Copenhagen before that.

He also had a normal first season with Newcastle although he still struggled in parts of his game.

People underestimate how much it helps to be able to develop under absolutely no scrutiny or expectations, which is exactly what happened ti Isak and fair play to him he’s been superb in the last 12 months.
 
It’s been debunked numerous times here but he was far from a sure thing when Newcastle signed him for that kind of money.
He scored 6 goals the previous season and was not highly rated at Copenhagen before that.

He also had a normal first season with Newcastle although he still struggled in parts of his game.

People underestimate how much it helps to be able to develop under absolutely no scrutiny or expectations, which is exactly what happened ti Isak and fair play to him he’s been superb in the last 12 months.
He never played for Copenhagen?
 
Would love us to find a way into CL spots and break the bank for him. Quality player
 
It’s easy in hindsight to say « why didn’t we buy him » when it literally took him 16 months to perform whilst being under absolutely no scrutiny or pressure at Newcastle.

What do you mean by 16 months? Outside of the few injuries he has been performing from day 1. 'No scrutiny or pressure at Newcastle' is a bit weird line too. He even had a good Wilson to compete with at first when Wilson was still able to be occasionally available.
 
The kind of signing we could have made ahead of Newcastle had we not got clowns in charge of recruitment then

So many on here wouldn’t have wanted him. 44 goals in 132 games with Sociedad. There are players scoring double and triple that and we’re on here questioning how many less they’d score in the PL.

We can all act smart ex-post but it wasn’t a given he’d turn out like this. And we don’t have the world’s most patient fanbase, do we?
 
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What do you mean by 16 months? Outside of the few injuries he has been performing from day 1. 'No scrutiny or pressure at Newcastle' is a bit weird line too. He even had a good Wilson to compete with at first when Wilson was still able to be occasionally available.
What's his contract situation? Not close to renewing?
 
He's on course for a move to a big club.

Real Madrid, Bayern Munchen or Man City don't need him. Barca need him but are broke. Considering the price NUFC already paid and how much he has developed, the price would be close to 150m and the clubs that can spend that much in 2025 are very limited. With FFP and PSR, I really don't see him moving soon unless he goes on a strike and forces it but it's very unlikely. Still a lot of years left on his contract but he desperately needs a raise from the reported £120k a week wage.
 
He’s definitely worth the 9-figures it would take. He’s 26, and at a club where you wouldn’t expect him to spend his prime years. There’s nobody close to him in that bracket, and no other world class strikers under 30 in the game.

He’d probably cost about 120m if Newcastle don’t make the CL, and we should be selling the rubbish we’ve assembled anyway which should raise a bit. I’d be all over this in the summer if we can shift the likes of Rashford, Garnacho, Hojlund and others.
 
What's his contract situation? Not close to renewing?

2028 but he only makes £120k a week right now so badly needs a raise. There was some talk of a new contract last summer but nothing materialized.
 
He looks like the only thing that could curtail him is injuries or some kind of mental collapse at the moment.

Generally, we talk about a dearth of strikers in the game, but he looks like he has the class to be class in any of the storied striker eras with the way he plays and moves. Unplayable at times and it looks like his trajectory is still on the move upward. Very curious to see what his cap could be if injuries don't do him in.

@L. Robert those wages are criminal for arguably the best striker on the planet right now. His resolve is going to be seriously tested this summer; you're going to have to triple those numbers to not have him unsettled, methinks.
 
Seems like everything he's hitting is just going, wicked deflection tonight and it still finds the corner.

Looks like he's just going to get better and better. Shame he plays for that lot.
 
Pains me to say as I can’t be doing with Newcastle but he’s looked good ever since they signed him and has stepped up another level this season.