People are quick to forget that £1m keeps over 20 normal employees in a job for a year.
Maybe the Glazers can take £1m off their yearly self given bonuses then?People are quick to forget that £1m keeps over 20 normal employees in a job for a year.
I feel like we don’t actually have any valuation of players in mind. It’s just “always pay less” Meaning if Porto wanted £30m, we would refuse to go above £25m, but if Porto wanted £20m, we would refuse to go above £12m. You know what I mean? It’s like even when it’s a fair price we just won’t meet it. We’re happy to pay £12m, but if the asking price was £12m we’d only pay £7m.
Valuations are a tricky thing though. How much is Bruno worth to United, for the impact that he had and being one of the best AMs in the league? A lot more then we paid that's for sure.I feel like we don’t actually have any valuation of players in mind. It’s just “always pay less” Meaning if Porto wanted £30m, we would refuse to go above £25m, but if Porto wanted £20m, we would refuse to go above £12m. You know what I mean? It’s like even when it’s a fair price we just won’t meet it. We’re happy to pay £12m, but if the asking price was £12m we’d only pay £7m.
Don't know what your trying to shove down peoples throat, but any footballer will tell you they are always learning. If they think a new trick is worth a try they will try it.It's difficult for players to add new things to their style when they reach a certain point in their careers because it's based on repetition, few manage to do it but most don't. And no it's not the difference between the very best and mediocre players, the difference between these two categories is how they excelled at their strength and if anything you will find more jacks of all trades, masters of none among mediocre players.
Don't know what your trying to shove down peoples throat, but any footballer will tell you they are always learning. If they think a new trick is worth a try they will try it.
Running into space comes naturally to some forwards and it's not hard to learn.
You never win with people who only see what they want to see. I will leave it with, All players want to learn more, and will tell you so.If it wasn't hard to learn they would all be good at it and we both know that it's not the case. And go tell that to Klose, he clearly disagrees with you.
You never win with people who only see what they want to see. I will leave it with, All players want to learn more, and will tell you so.
Well you certainly seem to have. Don't be trying to change peoples opinions. Really hate this. Let them have their own opinion.And no one said that players don't want to learn more, I said that not everyone can learn everything.
Well you certainly seem to have. Don't be trying to change peoples opinions. Really hate this. Let them have their own opinion.
Look, forget it.How? The first sentence of the post you quoted says that it's difficult for players to add things when they reach a certain point in their career, at no point did I say that players don't want to try or don't actually try.
The purchase price is only part of the cost to clubs. Liverpool's purchase of Thiago over the term of the contract would be a lot higher due to his high salary over the term of his contract. Telles would be at a guess around 80k a week compared to Thiago on around 200/250k a week.20m. Take it or leave.
Thiago, a worldclass midfielder and among top 3-5 best in the world in his position, only cost a Liverpool 20-25m. Do Porto think Telles, in last year of his contract, worth more?
Thought Liverpool wages ceiling was 200k a week. Is this right.The purchase price is only part of the cost to clubs. Liverpool's purchase of Thiago over the term of the contract would be a lot higher due to his high salary over the term of his contract. Telles would be at a guess around 80k a week compared to Thiago on around 200/250k a week.
The purchase price is only part of the cost to clubs. Liverpool's purchase of Thiago over the term of the contract would be a lot higher due to his high salary over the term of his contract. Telles would be at a guess around 80k a week compared to Thiago on around 200/250k a week.
I'm not sure Porto would be equating Telles and Thiago. It's only us on the Cafe. Two different players playing in different positions. Our need is for left-back, Liverpool wanted Thiago. Markets are decided by sellers and buyers needs or wants.They need to realise that Telles isn't a world class left back like Thiago in his position. It's not difficult for clubs to find alternative that is more worthy for their value which means United can easily going for another player and Porto will lose Telles for free next year.
I feel like we don’t actually have any valuation of players in mind. It’s just “always pay less” Meaning if Porto wanted £30m, we would refuse to go above £25m, but if Porto wanted £20m, we would refuse to go above £12m. You know what I mean? It’s like even when it’s a fair price we just won’t meet it. We’re happy to pay £12m, but if the asking price was £12m we’d only pay £7m.
its the classic mentality of feeling like you got the green of the deal. Quite small time which is usually reserved for us normal plebs haggling over $50 here and there. Not huge companiesI feel like we don’t actually have any valuation of players in mind. It’s just “always pay less” Meaning if Porto wanted £30m, we would refuse to go above £25m, but if Porto wanted £20m, we would refuse to go above £12m. You know what I mean? It’s like even when it’s a fair price we just won’t meet it. We’re happy to pay £12m, but if the asking price was £12m we’d only pay £7m.
Thats not Bayern's problem though to think about what it would cost liverpool in wages tbfThe purchase price is only part of the cost to clubs. Liverpool's purchase of Thiago over the term of the contract would be a lot higher due to his high salary over the term of his contract. Telles would be at a guess around 80k a week compared to Thiago on around 200/250k a week.
He'd seemingly be the only one to improve our starting XI. The other two signings (If any of these happen) are more for squad depthSo, basically you're saying you'll only be optimistic if we sign Sancho?
Unless its one of our own and we have people hating his guts cough pogba cough. Quite hypocritical of the fan baseNice to see a player actually pushing for the move.
Telles has a few offers and he prefers United's as they offer a considerable higher wage than the others. The transfer fee however, remains too low for Porto ambitions.
The player is pressuring Porto to accept United's lowball but Porto would rather keep the player and let him leave on a free next year than to sell for peanuts and spend it on an unprovent left back.
I'm not sure Porto would be equating Telles and Thiago. It's only us on the Cafe. Two different players playing in different positions. Our need is for left-back, Liverpool wanted Thiago. Markets are decided by sellers and buyers needs or wants.
I just find it funny that we weren’t willing to pay £30m for Thiago but were willing to pay £30m for a shit player like Longstaff, just because the asking price was £50m.That's because we have a banker as a negotiator who has no clue of what players are worth
I just find it funny that we weren’t willing to pay £30m for Thiago but were willing to pay £30m for a shit player like Longstaff, just because the asking price was £50m.
Clubs are gonna see us coming in the future. If they actually want £40m for a player their gonna quote us £70m & we’ll probably throw £50m straight down. Incompetent fecks.
I just find it funny that we weren’t willing to pay £30m for Thiago but were willing to pay £30m for a shit player like Longstaff, just because the asking price was £50m.
Clubs are gonna see us coming in the future. If they actually want £40m for a player their gonna quote us £70m & we’ll probably throw £50m straight down. Incompetent fecks.
He can sign for any club on a free in 90 odd days time. Obviously cant join till next summer then. So i dont blame Utd for dragging this out. A fee of around £10m or under would be a result. Porto need money.
We should just do a deal for January if so. Backup LB is hardly a priority compared to some other positions.We could easily get him in Jan for 5m if we wanted him midway through the season.
I believe porto will eventually sell but we are right in taking a stance on paying a reasonable fee.
I just find it funny that we weren’t willing to pay £30m for Thiago but were willing to pay £30m for a shit player like Longstaff, just because the asking price was £50m.
Clubs are gonna see us coming in the future. If they actually want £40m for a player their gonna quote us £70m & we’ll probably throw £50m straight down. Incompetent fecks.
I have 3 theories of what's going on
Judge is clueless theory. It's a solid theory considering that we gave ridiculous salaries and contract extensions to players + we're struggling to sign players. That theory is backed by Evra as well BTW
The club had decided Ole's fate and they won't back him theory. They didn't back Mou in the end and maybe they are doing the same to Ole. Ole is asking for an 60m-80m investment in defence after previously spending another 130m there. He asked for Grealish when he already had Bruno and Pogba there (ultimately they settled for VDB). That doesn't help the manager's cause
The club doesn't want to spend money but it still want to benefit from the clicks transfer interest generate theory. It's similar to theory B but with the difference that Ole's head is not on the chopping board. At least not yet. It partly backed by our lack of transfer activity, by Ole saying that Bruno's transfer was partly financed by the Summer budget + by Woodward's AGM's speech who used the interest generated during the silly season as an example of how ridiculous popular our brand name is.
Ultimately I think its a mix of the three.
Mate, that view doesn't really carry so much weight when this club wastes millions of pounds like a leaky sieve.
