Alex Telles - SIGNED for United

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I hope we wrap this signing up over the next few days.

Another player capable of whipping in a good cross from a set piece would be ideal.
 
Sign him. Then we can just hope Laird or Dalot fulfil their potential and we would have a very nice set of Fullbacks
 
Sign him. Then we can just hope Laird or Dalot fulfil their potential and we would have a very nice set of Fullbacks

YES, Proper full backs with a proper CF is the key. Martial/Rashford/Greenwood can cover wings and at least one attacking FB in Telles would improve us if we sign a proper number-9

When so many pundits telling we should really sign a proper DM and CF, I thought our priority should be RW but now I think we really need DM/CF ASAP with one attacking FB least.
 
Reckon if we get him we are going to be seeing the 352 / 343 system a lot?

He's not a left back. He's more like a wing back and a good one at that. And with the fragility of our back line going back to 3 CB's might not be a bad idea until we fix the CB issue long term.
 
I think given we allegedly balked at the Reguilón buy back clauses this would make the most sense of all other available transfers

He’s a proven solid option and whilst I doubt he’ll put the same numbers in at United he’s got the technical skills lacking in the likes of Brandon Williams and Shaw. It’s the kind of signing I’d expect Wolves/Leicester to make that we’d then be clamouring for after one season.

I don’t believe he’ll transform our attack but his delivery would be better than Williams’ and he’ll add some much needed experience to our squad. Really given the contract situation if we can get this done for between £10-18m it would be a really sensible transfer and one I don’t see how anyone could moan about.
 
Reckon if we get him we are going to be seeing the 352 / 343 system a lot?

He's not a left back. He's more like a wing back and a good one at that. And with the fragility of our back line going back to 3 CB's might not be a bad idea until we fix the CB issue long term.

Someone may have to inform all his managers then.
 
Reckon if we get him we are going to be seeing the 352 / 343 system a lot?

He's not a left back. He's more like a wing back and a good one at that. And with the fragility of our back line going back to 3 CB's might not be a bad idea until we fix the CB issue long term.
What? He has never played anything else from a leftback in a 4 man defence.
 
Someone may have to inform all his managers then.

I meant in the terms of what Luke Shaw is. Telles is really like a winger. He scores goals or gets assists all the time. Definitely what I want at the club though. Football has moved on and we need too
 
What? He has never played anything else from a leftback in a 4 man defence.

He bombs forward a lot is what i meant. He's of of course a left back but he's more like a wingback who plays there. I didn't phrase it very well. And i'm not complaining. I'm all for this transfer. Been crying out for attacking fullbacks for ages. A big reason why i don't rate the AWB transfer.
 
I meant in the terms of what Luke Shaw is. Telles is really like a winger. He scores goals or gets assists all the time. Definitely what I want at the club though. Football has moved on and we need too

No, Telles is a fullback there is no world where he is a winger or like a winger. Being better than Shaw going forward doesn't make you a winger. And wingback is a specialist role, people really shouldn't make claims that a player is more of a wingback when he has virtually never played that role in his career.
 
No, Telles is a fullback there is no world where he is a winger or like a winger. Being better than Shaw going forward doesn't make you a winger.

Doesn't he get assists and goals all the time? Everything I have read about him and seen from him makes me confidently say he's better attacking than he is defending. And again that's a good thing for us. Get him in I say. Our fullbacks are tragic.
 
I’d hope it doesn’t mean we move to 343 because we don’t have a RWB.
 
Doesn't he get assists and goals all the time? Everything I have read about him and seen from him makes me confidently say he's better attacking than he is defending. And again that's a good thing for us. Get him in I say. Our fullbacks are tragic.

Most of his goals are pens. His assist numbers are good, 8 or 9 a season on average, but not totally wild.
 
I’d hope it doesn’t mean we move to 343 because we don’t have a RWB.

We might get one of those too. Telles for £20m and say a RWB for £30-40m is much cheaper than 108m winger that's for sure.
 
Doesn't he get assists and goals all the time? Everything I have read about him and seen from him makes me confidently say he's better attacking than he is defending. And again that's a good thing for us. Get him in I say. Our fullbacks are tragic.

He takes penalties, corners and free kicks. My point is that an attacking fullback isn't a wingback or a winger, the same way a defensive fullback isn't a CB, they are both fullbacks with different tendencies and skillsets.
 
Most of his goals are pens. His assist numbers are good, 8 or 9 a season on average, but not totally wild.

The fact he is even their pen taker then kind of backs up my point. He's clearly a good striker of the ball to get pens and also has good end product. Might get more assists feeding better forwards too. Get him in.
 
Reports from Portugal confirm Utd have had talks with the player’s agent (which I read as, the agent has approached Utd to try and get them interested), but Utd have not spoken to Porto or made any bid for Telles.
The player says he’s only focussed on playing for Porto.

Meanwhile Utd have been linked with signing Elvis.
Sources close to someone, who knows someone else who makes a living out of football transfer gossip, say that Ed Woodward was spotted leaving Cape Kennedy last night raising suspicions that he made a secret trip to the moon yesterday in an attempt to convince the legend to come out of retirement and sign for United.
Elvis is currently employed driving a London double decker bus on sightseeing trips around the Sea of Tranquillity.

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Bruno was great at it with us tbf.

I think United's problem in that regard is that only Maguire and maybe Pogba are big threats on corners so it's easy to defend. The forwards barely head the ball. Telles is one of the best in the world at taking corners but Porto have a bunch of giants (Pepe, Danilo, Marega, Soares, Mbemba, etc), don't think he would be as effective at it at United.
If the delivery is superb then even the smaller dudes can score. Because if someone like Telles can whip a ball in with ferocity/accuracy then all it needs is good movement.
 
Are we the only side in football that’s stupid enough to agree terms with a player before agreeing a price?

“We’ve agreed terms with John Smith”
‘Great, that’ll be £25m please’
“We were thinking £10m”
‘It’s £25m’
“We don’t want him then”
‘You’ve just offered him £150,000 a week for 5 years, we think you do’
“Oh no......”
 
Luke Shaw plays CB and Telles can play as LB? We need s good pacy left footed defender and maybe Shaw can play the role.
 
Are we the only side in football that’s stupid enough to agree terms with a player before agreeing a price?

“We’ve agreed terms with John Smith”
‘Great, that’ll be £25m please’
“We were thinking £10m”
‘It’s £25m’
“We don’t want him then”
‘You’ve just offered him £150,000 a week for 5 years, we think you do’
“Oh no......”
Just about every single club comes to at least a preliminary agreement with a player before trying to agree a price with his club. It would be quite embarassing to negotiate a price only to be turned down by the player.
 
Are we the only side in football that’s stupid enough to agree terms with a player before agreeing a price?

“We’ve agreed terms with John Smith”
‘Great, that’ll be £25m please’
“We were thinking £10m”
‘It’s £25m’
“We don’t want him then”
‘You’ve just offered him £150,000 a week for 5 years, we think you do’
“Oh no......”

Most clubs if not all generally agree terms with a player before agreeing a price with their club.
 
The fact he is even their pen taker then kind of backs up my point. He's clearly a good striker of the ball to get pens and also has good end product. Might get more assists feeding better forwards too. Get him in.

He'll also be up against better defenders. Other than Robertson and TTA, who play in a team designed from the ground up to get assists from full backs, few full backs in the Premier League get more than 6 or 7 assists per season. Given our current left back has 6 assists in 97 league games, I'd be happy with any sort of upgrade.
 
Just about every single club comes to at least a preliminary agreement with a player before trying to agree a price with his club. It would be quite embarassing to negotiate a price only to be turned down by the player.

My question was largely tongue in cheek. I suspect more of our movements are leaked.

The reporting of our deals has certainly changed.

I suspect that’s due to the fact plenty of players turn us down now. In the last few decades you’d always here about a bid, acceptance, then agreeing terms with the player.

Now we have this weird “We fancy your player, can you ask him if he fancies us too” scenario.
 
Reports from Portugal confirm Utd have had talks with the player’s agent (which I read as, the agent has approached Utd to try and get them interested), but Utd have not spoken to Porto or made any bid for Telles.
The player says he’s only focussed on playing for Porto.

Meanwhile Utd have been linked with signing Elvis.
Sources close to someone, who knows someone else who makes a living out of football transfer gossip, say that Ed Woodward was spotted leaving Cape Kennedy last night raising suspicions that he made a secret trip to the moon yesterday in an attempt to convince the legend to come out of retirement and sign for United.
Elvis is currently employed driving a London double decker bus on sightseeing trips around the Sea of Tranquillity.

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*Searches for Space Shuttle Tracker app*
 
Luke Shaw plays CB and Telles can play as LB? We need s good pacy left footed defender and maybe Shaw can play the role.

Luke belongs in Championship/ League One regardless of what position he is in. He is an utterly useless footballer at PL level.
 
He'll also be up against better defenders. Other than Robertson and TTA, who play in a team designed from the ground up to get assists from full backs, few full backs in the Premier League get more than 6 or 7 assists per season. Given our current left back has 6 assists in 97 league games, I'd be happy with any sort of upgrade.

Fair points. I don't really rate either of our fullbacks tbh and we'll never win a league title with either. Both are far too tragic on the ball.
 
He bombs forward a lot is what i meant. He's of of course a left back but he's more like a wingback who plays there. I didn't phrase it very well. And i'm not complaining. I'm all for this transfer. Been crying out for attacking fullbacks for ages. A big reason why i don't rate the AWB transfer.

Have you just reduced a LWB to a LB “who bombs forward a lot” :lol:
 
Deals like this drag because United/Ed are sceptical.
But, the counter argument would be, why go into this in the first place.
 
I doubt Greenwood. Rashford and Martial have scored 10 headed goals between them at United?
Yeah, I've only seen our attackers attempt to head the ball when they are alone in space. There's no honest heading attack in our team and there hasn't been for years. Other than Maguire and Pogba, I rarely see ANY player challenge whole heartedly with their heads. It's as if they are afraid of messing their hair or something.
 
Yeah, I've only seen our attackers attempt to head the ball when they are alone in space. There's no honest heading attack in our team and there hasn't been for years. Other than Maguire and Pogba, I rarely see ANY player challenge whole heartedly with their heads. It's as if they are afraid of messing their hair or something.

It's not something we should be focusing on. Headed goals in the PL have gone from 205 10 years ago to just 107 last year. Defences have become too organised and defenders too athletic to make it a successful strategy. It's more difficult to get the crosses in to begin with, and to have somebody on the end of them.
 
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