Alex Sandro | On the market in January

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Give them Darmian as part of the deal, throw them Mkhi and 130m for Dybala. Bring in Malcom, easy. That'd mean we only need a CM and a RB come the summer. Easy stuff
 
Give them Darmian as part of the deal, throw them Mkhi and 130m for Dybala. Bring in Malcom, easy. That'd mean we only need a CM and a RB come the summer. Easy stuff
Playing lot of fifa I guess.
 
Why is he leaving? Has he underperformed recently?
 
Give them Darmian as part of the deal, throw them Mkhi and 130m for Dybala. Bring in Malcom, easy. That'd mean we only need a CM and a RB come the summer. Easy stuff

Just a cheeky 130m, just like that.
 
Why is he leaving? Has he underperformed recently?
Some of their players are underperforming. Higuain, Dybala(apparently back to form). In the case of Alex Sandro, Marotta from Juventus board said that are "personal issues". I think hes doing a Van Dick after last window when Juve refused to sell him to Chelsea.
 
Hard to understand why people do not rate Azpilicueta that high. he might not be as 'fancy' as Marcelo going forward, but he is solid defensively. And the left back we are planning to buy should be primarily a good defender.

I would be delighted if we can have someone like Azpilicueta on our left hand side, but I am not sure who exactly.

Also, one thing our team is screaming for is good crosses. I have read Philipp Max looks good in that department but I have not seen him play.
 
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We are in need of a LB and and RB. Sandro and Fabinho would be my choice.
 
I think Luke Shaw is starting to play well. Getting Sandro will just shatter his confidence and push him back which I don't think Jose would do. We've got other positions that need to be filled up. We definitely need a box-to-box midfielder and a RW. Fabinho would be a good cover for Valencia and midfield for Matic but I think TFM is nailed on to be Valencia's backup.
 
I think to get better as a team and whole squad, and challenging on all fronts again, players like Sandro is most welcomed.

Bayern has/had Alaba and Bernat for LB, and Lahm and Rafinha for RB at one point.

Sandro/Shaw at LB and Valencia/TFM at RB. Sounds good to me.
 
Can’t wait for whatever club panic buys Sandro for a fortune.

I’m glad José and United have come to their senses and realized it wouldn’t be the smartest thing to pay such an amount for Sandro. Only Marcelo is arguably worth that much. Sandro has no real game breaking ability or anything he wows you with; just sound overall and in no way does that merit £60M+ or whatever he’s available for. Juvé can feck off for even demanding such a ridiculous amount in all honesty :lol:
 
Can’t wait for whatever club panic buys Sandro for a fortune.

I’m glad José and United have come to their senses and realized it wouldn’t be the smartest thing to pay such an amount for Sandro. Only Marcelo is arguably worth that much. Sandro has no real game breaking ability or anything he wows you with; just sound overall and in no way does that merit £60M+ or whatever he’s available for. Juvé can feck off for even demanding such a ridiculous amount in all honesty :lol:

Got to me the most overrated player on the forum right now. Not close to the best Brazilian left backs. As you say, he is sound overall and nothing else.

Shaw is a very good option for first choice who we need to show more patience with and develop. I am sure all questions about his "bad attitude" can be put to rest after his starts and performances over the last two months. It was his recovery from the injury not that infamous attitude that had kept him out of the team so far. Now he needs to stay fit for the rest of the season, and if he does, then we need to offer him a contract extension. We should look for a cheaper option as a back up to him and sell Blind in the summer.
 
Got to me the most overrated player on the forum right now. Not close to the best Brazilian left backs. As you say, he is sound overall and nothing else.

Shaw is a very good option for first choice who we need to show more patience with and develop. I am sure all questions about his "bad attitude" can be put to rest after his starts and performances over the last two months. It was his recovery from the injury not that infamous attitude that had kept him out of the team so far. Now he needs to stay fit for the rest of the season, and if he does, then we need to offer him a contract extension. We should look for a cheaper option as a back up to him and sell Blind in the summer.

Agreed
 
Can’t wait for whatever club panic buys Sandro for a fortune.

I’m glad José and United have come to their senses and realized it wouldn’t be the smartest thing to pay such an amount for Sandro. Only Marcelo is arguably worth that much. Sandro has no real game breaking ability or anything he wows you with; just sound overall and in no way does that merit £60M+ or whatever he’s available for. Juvé can feck off for even demanding such a ridiculous amount in all honesty :lol:

Unfortunately £60m is not a big sum nowadays after VVD being £75m and Coutinho over £130m damn those scousers for inflating the market........
 
Unless Shaw gets seriously injured again we won't be signing a new left back, and rightly so.
 
Think Shaw is our man would allow £50m to be spent elsewhere.
 
Reading those Chelsea fans forums i wonder why they want so hard to drop Alonso. He is one of their most dangerous players in the attack and is great at freekicks.
 
Young could cover for another season but that's papering over the problem, Blind and Mitchell aren't good enough.
What teams have a top class back up to left back? Young has a few years left, Blind is a great squad player to have in general. There's no reason to spend mega money on a back up player.
 
What teams have a top class back up to left back? Young has a few years left, Blind is a great squad player to have in general. There's no reason to spend mega money on a back up player.

Spurs rotate their fullbacks, PSG are rotating their RB all of the time, you do that when you have an uncertainity there, which is what Shaw is, the liklihood of him being injured for periods is high and Blind isn't good enough to fill in, while Young is not even a LB, he's makeshift cover who had a purple patch, but he'll also be 33 next season, we need to be more proactive than that. I also never said spend mega money, I made the comment in the Sandro thread but not specifically about him, just about the position itself.
 
Spurs rotate their fullbacks, PSG are rotating their RB all of the time, you do that when you have an uncertainity there, which is what Shaw is, the liklihood of him being injured for periods is high and Blind isn't good enough to fill in, while Young is not even a LB, he's makeshift cover who had a purple patch, but he'll also be 33 next season, we need to be more proactive than that. I also never said spend mega money, I made the comment in the Sandro thread but not specifically about him, just about the position itself.
But how many teams have a back up left back of genuine class? You'll find scant few that do a better job than Young or Blind. You're overestimating what's out there bud.
 
But how many teams have a back up left back of genuine class? You'll find scant few that do a better job than Young or Blind. You're overestimating what's out there bud.

Not just a back-up, competition for the spot. I'm not underestimating them, Blind is poor as a LB, much too slow, and Young is going to be 33 next season, it's very short term solution. Shaw isn't so good as to command no competition and a lesser back-up.
 
Reading those Chelsea fans forums i wonder why they want so hard to drop Alonso. He is one of their most dangerous players in the attack and is great at freekicks.

It's crazy, he's their top player in the "power rankings"... now I know that's not everything, but he's hardly been poor. In fact, if they want to move him on (a la Matic), I know where Shaw's competition could come from.
 
Not just a back-up, competition for the spot. I'm not underestimating them, Blind is poor as a LB, much too slow, and Young is going to be 33 next season, it's very short term solution. Shaw isn't so good as to command no competition and a lesser back-up.
He isn't poor at left back, he isn't world class, but he's had more than enough good games there to justify himself as an option. Look at City, who is their backup left back? A midfielder who had not played there until this year. Chelsea have Baba. Liverpool have Moreno. Who are Madrid's options fighting for a starter birth? Are our back ups really any worse than those? And why haven't these teams signed another LB to compete with first choice I wonder.

It's really not a priority, and unless we can bring in an established player that's better than Shaw there is absolutely no rush to add a 4th option at LB.
 
He isn't poor at left back, he isn't world class, but he's had more than enough good games there to justify himself as an option. Look at City, who is their backup left back? A midfielder who had not played there until this year. Chelsea have Baba. Liverpool have Moreno. Who are Madrid's options fighting for a starter birth? Are our back ups really any worse than those? And why haven't these teams signed another LB to compete with first choice I wonder.

It's really not a priority, and unless we can bring in an established player that's better than Shaw there is absolutely no rush to add a 4th option at LB.

Blind has been average for us when playing at LB most of the time, his best run in the team has been as a CB, it's why he can't even get the spot over an aging converted winger. Liverpool's LB situation is a mess and Chelsea are trying to add Sandro or the guy from Roma to offer competition for Alonso. City's back up is supposed to be Danilo who they paid £37M for, in the case of Real Madrid they have the best LB in the world so their back-up is a youngster they are blooding into the role. In our case our LB is not on the level of proven experience, quality or reliability to make do with a weak back-up as opposed to genuine top level competition for the spot.
 
Spurs rotate their fullbacks, PSG are rotating their RB all of the time, you do that when you have an uncertainity there, which is what Shaw is, the liklihood of him being injured for periods is high and Blind isn't good enough to fill in, while Young is not even a LB, he's makeshift cover who had a purple patch, but he'll also be 33 next season, we need to be more proactive than that. I also never said spend mega money, I made the comment in the Sandro thread but not specifically about him, just about the position itself.

Yeah, but arguably the best one wants to leave though.
 
Blind has been average for us when playing at LB most of the time, his best run in the team has been as a CB, it's why he can't even get the spot over an aging converted winger. Liverpool's LB situation is a mess and Chelsea are trying to add Sandro or the guy from Roma to offer competition for Alonso. City's back up is supposed to be Danilo who they paid £37M for, in the case of Real Madrid they have the best LB in the world so their back-up is a youngster they are blooding into the role. In our case our LB is not on the level of proven experience, quality or reliability to make do with a weak back-up as opposed to genuine top level competition for the spot.

This. There seems little point in comparing our backup options at LB with those at City and Real Madrid, given that their 1st choice LBs are Mendy and Marcelo and ours is either a 33 year old former-winger or Luke Shaw (who, despite a handful of decent performances recently, could hardly be said to be of the same or similar calibre).
 
Yeah, but arguably the best one wants to leave though.

That was about money though due to Spurs wage structure, not about playing time.

This. There seems little point in comparing our backup options at LB with those at City and Real Madrid, given that their 1st choice LBs are Mendy and Marcelo and ours is either a 33 year old former-winger or Luke Shaw (who, despite a handful of decent performances recently, could hardly be said to be of the same or similar calibre).

Exactly, Shaw isn't in the bracket of LB where you can consider the position locked, if anything he's done well and made himself the back-up choice, as he's not really performed any better than Young in the role this season.
 
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