How's he prem proven? He's been hot and cold since he broke out.
I think he has potential, so I wouldn't be against it if we can get a good deal. I wouldn't stress over it though, he's probably not the best you can get for the price he'd have.
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I think he has potential, so I wouldn't be against it if we can get a good deal. I wouldn't stress over it though, he's probably not the best you can get for the price he'd have.
That's rarely how footballers think though. They believe when moving they'll get into the first team.
I like him. If he stays fit the consistency and goals/assists will follow. All those things are really just one problem.
I don't think he'll cost that much either.
Looks like a proper player in the CM role.
I read the articles again and increased gaming time does not seem to be one of the things highlighted. It might be, I don't know, but it's not being reported as such. If the reports are to be believed, he's concerned about the lack of ambition form the club and what he sees as a period of huge uncertainty coming up with the biggest players (Sanchez, Ozil) and potentially Wenger on the way out.
Rather him in the squad than Fellaini.
He's not very good.
He's only 23?!
Did they sign him and start playing him when he was 9?
Did they sign him and start playing him when he was 9?
I'd be a bit torn here. I don't see him as being too much of an improvement on say, Lingard. But, he is English, he's young and he would be a useful squad option. However, there's no chance of him coming here IMO.
I'd take him only to be an option on the bench.
He's not the player we need in a starting eleven, but can be a much better option than Lingard.
I'd be ok if he comes to be a squad player, but I'd rather take Sanchez from them
He's not the player we need in a starting eleven, but can be a much better option than Lingard.
I'd be ok if he comes to be a squad player, but I'd rather take Sanchez from them
I'd take him, but I agree he's got Liverpool written all over him if he does actually leave, which I doubt he will.
He is a pretty shit winger, but seems to do very well at CM. Strong, fast, good dribbler. We also have to remember he's currently playing in a side with absolutely zero management or direction.
Wouldn't mind him for £25m or thereabouts if we can get rid of Fellaini.....
Wouldn't mind him for £25m or thereabouts if we can get rid of Fellaini.....
Quite like him, not what we need.
I really like him as a player. He's one of those players who has great ability, will play an occasional fantastic game and you'll think he's about to emerge as a real star. Then you don't notice him again for 6 months.
If he can get free of injury and play consistently at his best level he'll be one of England's best players. He definitely needs a change in coaching and environment because he's not developing at all at Arsenal.
If he can get free of injury and play consistently at his best level he'll be one of England's best players. He definitely needs a change in coaching and environment because he's not developing at all at Arsenal.
Is he though? He's scored 9 league goals since 2011he's never scored more than 2 Premier League goals in a season, he's wank.
Add to that his awful injury record and he'd be a complete disaster of a signing. At this point I think Arsenal are surely looking to offload him he's not good enough.
Much as I get your angle players do improve, I well he would improve us, based on cm and this season.
Just my 2p
Yup, surprised it's taken Wenger so long to have the confidence in him to play him there.
He's a Mourinho type player as well.
Overrated
Couple of cameo moments in otherwise forgettable matches. If he was that effective then even Wenger would have played him more. I really hope we don't go for him
Couple of cameo moments in otherwise forgettable matches. If he was that effective then even Wenger would have played him more. I really hope we don't go for him
I quite like him. He'd be an upgrade on Lingard and Fellaini.
Why not? With Basti and Fellaini on the way out we need another CM. The fact he can do a decent job at RW is an added bonus.
Bit of an assumption that Fellaini is on his way out.
I would say our main need is for a more defensively capable midfielder.
Just like Shaw, Schneiderlin, and not like Zlatan, Ibra, Bailly?
Give them Smalling, take Alexis and the Ox.
I remember when Van Persie was annoyed that Oxlade got subbed in a match during the 11/12 season. He was 17 or 18 then.
He's exactly the kind of player we don't need to sign. Our current first team is sitting at 6th and may well end in that position. We need to sign players who are better than our first team, or have the potential to push our first team players so they are fighting for their place and hopefully improving. The Ox is a decent player, but he's neither of those things. Signing him isn't going to put us in a position to demote Miki, Mata or Martial and he isn't good enough to put them under pressure for their place, forcing them to improve their game.
He could be great at Spurs or Liverpool or Everton where he'll be better than the current players in his positions. Also i appreciate that two out of three of those teams are higher than us in the league, but I think their best players in midfield are in central areas, not wide areas.
He could be great at Spurs or Liverpool or Everton where he'll be better than the current players in his positions. Also i appreciate that two out of three of those teams are higher than us in the league, but I think their best players in midfield are in central areas, not wide areas.
Wouldn't touch him. He's no better than Jesse, is a perma-crock and allergic to goals. In addition to having played forever for one of the most coward teams of the recent memory.
He'll go at Liverpool IMO.
He'll go at Liverpool IMO.
Maybe, but he is entering the final year of his contract and he's not been offered an extension. He is not really a proper CM anyway, we bought him on the back of him scoring 1 goal in 3 games for Everton (and being their top goalscorer) from a secondary striker position. I don't think anyone rates him as a CM?
No doubt we'll be in for a proper DM as well and no doubt that will be the 1st priority. Carrick's contract is running out in 3 months, we'll need a long term replacement.
But look at our current list of midfielders:
-Pogba
-Herrera
-Carrick
-Schweinsteiger
-Fellaini
-Pereira (loan)
2 are at the end of their careers, one isn't even a proper mid (likely on his way out) and the other one is a youngster. Are you telling me we won't need another CM either this, or next year?
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I think we may see a mini collapse at Arsenal in the summer.
Sanchez goners, perhaps Ozil and now the Ox.
They will be left with a very mediocre group of players if those three leaves from an already weak version of Arsenal.
Nor do I think they will attract Sanchez level players again before they significantly change their ambition and approach.
Sanchez goners, perhaps Ozil and now the Ox.
They will be left with a very mediocre group of players if those three leaves from an already weak version of Arsenal.
Nor do I think they will attract Sanchez level players again before they significantly change their ambition and approach.
Hes the same level as Lingard.
Agree with you both. Wouldn't mind him as a squad option at all, and if he manages to develop further, who knows, he could become a regular.
I reckon he will definitely move - would have thought somewhere like Everton he would almost guarantee a start and I think he would do well there.
He's a player that everyone seems to like but I'm not sure why = I think we just hope he can fulfill the potential he was meant to have. I'm sure he takes a look at how little Walcott has achieved after being touted as the next Henry as I remember rightly (admittedly his body is made of straw) and thinks Arsenal isn't the place for him.
He's a player that everyone seems to like but I'm not sure why = I think we just hope he can fulfill the potential he was meant to have. I'm sure he takes a look at how little Walcott has achieved after being touted as the next Henry as I remember rightly (admittedly his body is made of straw) and thinks Arsenal isn't the place for him.
We have Pereira.
Wouldn't mind him at Liverpool. Think he suits our system really well. Wonder how much they'd want for him though?
I reckon circa £25m might do the job. They'd be hard pressed to ask for more with his contract running down and him having been in & out the squad over the last few years.
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Haha Id rather we invested in a more established CM and give development minutes to Pereira.
Ox doesn't have enough minutes at CM (even though I think he is best there) but Wenger has seriously messed with his development.
We need someone who can be more readily trusted and then we can give the development time to Pereira.
Argh, 25 is a bit much.
I thought they'd let go for £15mil. I think that's more reasonable no?
I'd take him here at United. I wouldn't otherwise, but his performances in CM recently suggest to me he could be very good going forward in that position, at 23 years he is young too.
Injury worries could be validated, or could be a red herring given Arsenal's overall terrible history with injuries. I notice we have a fantastic injury record now with Jose, compared to last season. We might see that same difference.
Injury worries could be validated, or could be a red herring given Arsenal's overall terrible history with injuries. I notice we have a fantastic injury record now with Jose, compared to last season. We might see that same difference.
Bournemouth is calling.
Fair enough, I might not agree but I fully understand that point of view. Not because of the Pereira part, where I agree with you he needs minutes, but more for the established CM purchase. I think it'll be tricky to find established CMs of decent quality at affordable prices.
We have been linked with average players at exorbitant prices recently. And bringing in a high quality established CM to be a squad player and sub to Pogba and Herrera doesn't really make sense to me. I'd rather have an English lad of good talent, especially if he can be got at decent price. His performances at CM have been very good too, ask any Arsenal fan. That's where I'm coming form anyway.
I guess it will depend on who shows interest. If United and Liverpool show interest, who are domestic rivals, it could be around ~£25m. If only Bournemouth were to go in for him, it might be around £15m.
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