I don't buy it. He's not had the best of seasons, but he is still a very promising young player. We'll only sell for stupid money, otherwise we won't sell our biggest prospects. We are not yet a selling club. Actually, we are too stupid to sell players for a least a decade now.
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I don’t like how real this is getting and how fast it’s happening. We will regret selling this guy if it happens.
75£m for someone who barely as any composure and decision making would be a steal, but nobody ain't going to pay that.
While I think he is a really prospect, he isn't the finished article and I don't see how he fits within an Amorim system long term.
I would much rather we keep him but at £55m + I can see why the club may decide to cash in.
That being said, losing him and Rashford before the start of next season leaves use crazy weak in forward positions and I don't see how the money generated gets guaranteed improvements.
I would much rather we keep him but at £55m + I can see why the club may decide to cash in.
That being said, losing him and Rashford before the start of next season leaves use crazy weak in forward positions and I don't see how the money generated gets guaranteed improvements.
He 20. He has time to develop before his peak. He isn’t the profile of player we should be selling, he is the profile of talent and potential that we should be buying.
If we were buying a Garnacho type player we would be paying minimum £70m. We would probably get fleeced for £85m.
Not saying anyone else is going to pay it, but the replacement value is questionable. If the manager is happy to let go though then so be it.
I doubt the scousers wanted to sell Coutinho until they got silly money and great incomings for that money.
My kid wrote garnacho a letter last week saying he's his favourite player and he's looking forward to seeing him play when he comes to ot for the first time later this year.
He will be heartbroken if he leaves, so for that reason I hope he stays.
He will be heartbroken if he leaves, so for that reason I hope he stays.
He is a sellable asset so it’s no surprise he would attract other clubs, so the rumours are believable.
But I hope United wouldn’t be so shortsighted and flog him so easily just for PSR reasons.
Let’s move on Rashford/Casemiro first, plus a few others leaving in June to free up more wages.
But I hope United wouldn’t be so shortsighted and flog him so easily just for PSR reasons.
Let’s move on Rashford/Casemiro first, plus a few others leaving in June to free up more wages.
he doesn't fit the system so the longer we keep him the less he's gonna be worth
the obvious move is to sell him here rather than drag it out because a year from now it will be painfully obvious he isn't a good fit for wing back or 10, so will be worth even less
the obvious move is to sell him here rather than drag it out because a year from now it will be painfully obvious he isn't a good fit for wing back or 10, so will be worth even less
We don’t even know if the system will work. What if Amorim get sacked and another manager comes in with a different approach? Selling one of our brightest young players is madness. There are many other players who should be sold first.
Exactly my thoughts. And the reality is we need to sell to buy anyway. We're not going to make a serious transfer kitty on guys like Malacia and Antony.
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Good sensible replacement for them.
I will admit straight away that I might be giving the club too much credit but could this be more of a message to Garnacho than a real intention to sell him?
Obviously theres a lot of noise but I don’t see them selling him unless it’s a stupid bid.
Obviously theres a lot of noise but I don’t see them selling him unless it’s a stupid bid.
Don't want him to go, he has heart and ability he just needs to be moulded right.
Pass was bubbly again. Like Zirkzee to Maguire. Lucky, Bruno had one hell of a whip on the ball.
This kid does not seem to take substitutions, being dropped or any other negativity against him in a good way. He does not seem able to channel all that into turning it around. He had that long face and didn't celebrate a very good goal, just because a fan told him he has to pass and shot better.
I hope that he will take these potential sale speculations in a positive manner, but somehow, based on what I've seen before, I doubt it.
As I said before, now that Di Marzio posted it there is some value. And he's only said that we told them our price is £70m/€83m. Which is fair enough, it's stupid money so if they are willing to pay that then it is what it is. But generally it's a feck off price and of course we aren't looking to sell.
Confused what's going on, it on, it's off, it's on, it's off.
That comes with age and playing games. He has talent, graduate and has a good head on him.
70m doesn't sound like a feck off price at all
it's not a huge amount above what he's worth (probably 50 to 60?)
It's the muppet in all of us.
€83m is the equivalent of that... Okay not a feck off price but it's the "stupid price" level at what we'd sell him at.
I just don’t see it with him anyway so I’m not too bothered. I think he’s overrated and I suspect that, in time, that value will only get lower. He’s no better than a lot of wingers in this league and has less ability than others who moved for less. The only issue is that it leaves us light of bodies.
There’s also the supposed issue of him leaking lineups too, which might have contributed to this.
There’s also the supposed issue of him leaking lineups too, which might have contributed to this.
We came close with Hojlund.
Yep. If Garnacho wasn’t homegrown, people wouldn’t be having near this reaction. He’s been largely atrocious this year apart from some decent production, and as it’s been stated before his flaws aren’t things that suddenly get ironed out with more game time.
If there’s an opportunity to get a big price on him we’d be smart to do so. Instead of me having to read 3 years down the road how “he’s still only 23” when he continues to do the same shit
Really??? Uh. Ok then. Nevermind I was wrong I guess. Well not about the bad ownership part though, I'm still right about that and about the issue of cash flow. Ownership doesn't have to pump money into the club via capital increase, all it has to do is use their own assets as guarantee for the club's borrowing - and again, that is assuming the club is losing money or at least at its utmost financial limits, to the point credit institutions won't give them loans without ownership providing guarantees(or using OT as collateral)
Nonsense transfer news, and wasn't he just seen posing with our new LB signing?
If we sell him we are idiots
Guy kept his head down after basically being labelled the possible source of leaks. If he is the leak, then that’s a good trait. If he is not the leak, then he’s taken it all in an even more professional and calm manner.
It’s too early to sell him imo. At least give him half a year under Amorim to see if he can get something out of him.
He’ll start Thursday.
Amorims turned him into more of a team player. Comes on against Liverpool and assists Amad, starts at Arsenal and assist Bruno. Last season he’d have tried taking on that defender against Arsenal rather than squaring it.
Amorim did mention he's having to adapt his game to suit Amad & Garnacho better ... and also help them to be both inside & outside forwards to make them more unpredictable. Garnacho and Amad could cement their position for the next 10 years if used right. We'd be mad to sell Garnacho.
Wouldn't be against it for the right money, on the provision that we replace him this window.
Garnacho has potential and will probably turn out to be a good winger (I don't foresee him being world class) however I think he's a bit of a luxury in this current team and there's no real fit for him in Amorim's system as he doesn't seem suited to the AM roles and isn't a wb. Given the squad rebuild we need, the reported PSR struggles and the fact it'd be pure profit, I think it could be something we'd consider.
Garnacho has potential and will probably turn out to be a good winger (I don't foresee him being world class) however I think he's a bit of a luxury in this current team and there's no real fit for him in Amorim's system as he doesn't seem suited to the AM roles and isn't a wb. Given the squad rebuild we need, the reported PSR struggles and the fact it'd be pure profit, I think it could be something we'd consider.
You can't operate in that way. We have hired Amorim and we should be all in on his way of playing. That isn't saying he picks all the transfers, but the profile of player being identified by the club should be the players who fit that system and the ones being sold should be the ones who don't fit it.
You don't go for a manager who has a very defined way of playing, then sign players who don't fit into that way of playing just incase it doesn't work out and hope for the best.
He isn’t going anywhere. More chance of Rashford leaving and even that is slim.
The name constantly attached to it is Pedulla though. A man I'm certain puts the batteries back in his clock twice a day, just to ensure it's never correct.
Yep same and it does look Garnacho is actually looking for the pass now, rather than going for glory all the time. Whether he'd be happy being used more as an impact sub is another thing, but feels daft to sell one of our few creative attacking players, even if he hasn't had a great season so far.
You don’t keep players because you might sack the manager and another one might like them. Especially not when you’ve only appointed him.
There are so many more players that deserve to leave before him, and selling a talented academy player for a bit of quick cash is incredibly bleak.