Alejandro Garnacho (out)

Big question is who do we replace him with?
Our transfers is very much hit and miss the last decade. Would much rather see Rashford, Antony, Casemiro out before Garnacho.

Garnacho is an exciting player and he seems to be fighting for his place too. Can’t see him going at all.
 
TrueRedDevil said:
Probably the most overhyped young football player ever! He’s a bang-average talent, I just don’t get the hype. He wasn’t even that impressive in the academy. He can’t dribble, he can’t shoot, he lacks technical ability, he hasn’t got anything special to offer.
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He wasn't even that impressive in the academy ? What have you been smoking - he won us the FA Youth Cup almost single-handedly
 
Bit weird how much so many seem to have turned on him? He’s frustrating like most young players. You’d think he was absolutely shite going by the glee some seem to have at the idea of him being sold.
 
Valencia Shin Crosses said:
Swear people would have you think we were looking into selling a young Hazard or something.
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He's not world class, but what he has shown in the last couple of years at his age is more than enough to assume he'll be a top player. If these reports are true about what Napoli have offered then that offer is quite unimpressive. Would we get a player of his profile, the age, the current modest wages, for 35-40m if he was already at a top club?

When the initial reports of 60m (quid) from Atletico came out I thought it was a tricky offer to contemplate. But short of that, it feels more of a risk to sell him than hold on to him, depending on his character/professionalism (i.e. on the spectrum Evans - Rashford).
 
Berbaclass said:
Kvara going for a base fee of £58 million. We can't seriously ask for more than that if we wanted to sell Garna.
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That is very flawed logic. By the same token we should be saying if Antony went for 80m we should ask for 800m for Garnacho.
 
I honestly don’t think he’s that good. Capable of the sublime? Sure, however his decision making, passing and positional sense are not remotely top level.
What’s interesting is that he got so much praise for his performance against Arsenal (even from Bruno) when his only good thing of note was carrying the ball unchallenged for 15 yards then playing a square ball. Did he make the right choice? Sure and that was “good” for him but we should be aiming higher.
I’d take £50m based on the promise that he MIGHT get better.

I don’t think he’s as talented as Januzaj for instance and certainly nowhere near Greenwood/Mainoo
 
Garnacho’s decision making and final ball is shocking. I’m glad Amorim isn’t wasting any time in making his mind up on players.
 
Bastian said:
He's not world class, but what he has shown in the last couple of years at his age is more than enough to assume he'll be a top player. If these reports are true about what Napoli have offered then that offer is quite unimpressive. Would we get a player of his profile, the age, the current modest wages, for 35-40m if he was already at a top club?

When the initial reports of 60m (quid) from Atletico came out I thought it was a tricky offer to contemplate. But short of that, it feels more of a risk to sell him than hold on to him, depending on his character/professionalism (i.e. on the spectrum Evans - Rashford).
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You lose me when you say he’s shown enough to assume “he’ll be a top player”. Garnacho has had a shite load of minutes for his age and he’s rarely been able to even put together a complete 90 minute performance of constant danger. He has clear flaws that aren’t magically fixing themselves with more game time and it also seems as though he’s lost some of his take on explosiveness he had when first breaking through.

People look at the decent G/A and his age and just assume he’ll be a future star without looking at any other context.
 
dogwithabone said:
Garnacho’s decision making and final ball is shocking. I’m glad Amorim isn’t wasting any time in making his mind up on players.
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I agree, but my biggest criticism of him is that he seems quite mentally fragile. I don't think he'll be a top player for that reason alone.
 
Adamsk7 said:
I honestly don’t think he’s that good. Capable of the sublime? Sure, however his decision making, passing and positional sense are not remotely top level.
What’s interesting is that he got so much praise for his performance against Arsenal (even from Bruno) when his only good thing of note was carrying the ball unchallenged for 15 yards then playing a square ball. Did he make the right choice? Sure and that was “good” for him but we should be aiming higher.
I’d take £50m based on the promise that he MIGHT get better.

I don’t think he’s as talented as Januzaj for instance and certainly nowhere near Greenwood/Mainoo
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Too many are unable to come to this conclusion though because he’s “an academy player”.

I think his ceiling is a solid player on a top 4 club or so. Potentially a rotational type piece.
Sure as feck don’t think we have some footballing marvel on our hands, so I’m not sure why so many are trembling at a 50-60m sale

He’s not even a top half of the table level starter right now. It’s okay to not need to see a player ultimately fail or crater their market value and be willing to cash in some times lads.
 
Valencia Shin Crosses said:
Too many are unable to come to this conclusion though because he’s “an academy player”.

I think his ceiling is a solid player on a top 4 club or so. Potentially a rotational type piece.
Sure as feck don’t think we have some footballing marvel on our hands, so I’m not sure why so many are trembling at a 50-60m sale
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A Martinelli type player then.
 
dogwithabone said:
Garnacho’s decision making and final ball is shocking. I’m glad Amorim isn’t wasting any time in making his mind up on players.
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Is it shocking when looking at his goals and assists? Erratic and inconsistent for sure, but hardly shocking. Are most 20 year olds a little erratic? I assume as much.

And to other posters, we do love to say our players have lost pace; now even at the age of 20, with no injuries to speak of.
 
C'est Moi Cantona said:
There's no upside to selling him unless we're going to sign someone better.

'Pure profit' can't play on the left wing.
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We don't play a left winger anymore, which presumably is part of the reason we might be looking to sell.
 
Rossa said:
Is it shocking when looking at his goals and assists? Erratic and inconsistent for sure, but hardly shocking. Are most 20 year olds a little erratic? I assume as much.

And to other posters, we do love to say our players have lost pace; now even at the age of 20, with no injuries to speak of.
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I mean just look at his take on numbers now compared to his breakthrough season under ETH. Or feck just watch actual matches of now compared to then.
 
Adamsk7 said:
I honestly don’t think he’s that good. Capable of the sublime? Sure, however his decision making, passing and positional sense are not remotely top level.
What’s interesting is that he got so much praise for his performance against Arsenal (even from Bruno) when his only good thing of note was carrying the ball unchallenged for 15 yards then playing a square ball. Did he make the right choice? Sure and that was “good” for him but we should be aiming higher.
I’d take £50m based on the promise that he MIGHT get better.

I don’t think he’s as talented as Januzaj for instance and certainly nowhere near Greenwood/Mainoo
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You are comparing him to Januzaj ? Think they are poles apart to be honest.

Garnacho frustrates me a lot because some simple little improvements could make him much more effective. It does seem he is willing to adapt though as he had his head up a lot more yesterday.

He will be a very good player, weather that is with us remains to be seen, I would much rather take the chance of keeping him and seeing if he can get to the next level and adapt to a new role. Just my opinion though , although think if his career goes to plan his end game is Madrid.
 
Bon1803 said:
You are comparing him to Januzaj ? Think they are poles apart to be honest.

Garnacho frustrates me a lot because some simple little improvements could make him much more effective. It does seem he is willing to adapt though as he had his head up a lot more yesterday.

He will be a very good player, weather that is with us remains to be seen, I would much rather take the chance of keeping him and seeing if he can get to the next level and adapt to a new role. Just my opinion though , although think if his career goes to plan his end game is Madrid.
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He isn't good enough for Madrid.

Getafe maybe.
 
He's shown a good standard and is adjusting to Amorim's system. Great assist yesterday. Some of the comments in here are the usual negative dross lacking any sort of patience.

Ridiculous to sell him unless it's an offer that can't be refused, with a replacement in the pipeline.
 
OverratedOpinion said:
Why are Napoli selling Kvaratskhelia?
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Conte revealed that he asked out at the end of last month

The spine with which the Napoli team that broke their scudetti driught with, will be no more much sooner than later

Conte will have an unrecognizable team by next season.
 
Ongoing meeting between Napoli SD Manna and Garnacho's representative in Barcelona as per DiMarzio to try to understand if the player wants to join the italian club
If they fail to sign him, according to the journalist, plan B is Timo Werner..
Soon the tweet I think.

Here we go:
 
Valencia Shin Crosses said:
You lose me when you say he’s shown enough to assume “he’ll be a top player”. Garnacho has had a shite load of minutes for his age and he’s rarely been able to even put together a complete 90 minute performance of constant danger. He has clear flaws that aren’t magically fixing themselves with more game time and it also seems as though he’s lost some of his take on explosiveness he had when first breaking through.

People look at the decent G/A and his age and just assume he’ll be a future star without looking at any other context.
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Nah, I don't. I think he's performed well in a struggling team under ETH and is now adjusting to a very steep learning curve under Amorim. If he can navigate that he'll be quite a bit more than a 40m player. The main issue for him is to work hard for the full 90, track back. The other two building blocks where he can really improve is his pass selection (and actually select to pass, ha) and his technicality. He's fearless, he's almost always a danger to other teams, and he's 20 years old.

Unless he's stinking up the place like Rashford I wouldn't sell him.

The club should just focus on getting Casemiro to Saudi and Rashford into a decent shop window this month.
 
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