Thats not Wasmaname Onana is it?
Ajax - Man Utd | EL Final Build-up Thread
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Thats not Wasmaname Onana is it?
Wish I was that confident. But agree in general with you. Perfect for Jose.
Their age as well should be a big plus for us. A European final for lads just 17 to 21 with no real experience is a tough ask from their point of view.
Compared to players like Valencia, Pogba, Carrick, Romero (played a World Cup final)
Excellent.
Haha, actually it is! Fun fact; when Onana comes on the pitch for his warming-up they always start the Rihanna song at volume max and the whole stadium sings.. ''O-NA-NA, What's my name? O-NA-NA!''
Actually a great character at just 21 years old, always very passionate and happy when they win or when he makes a good save. Seems like a great guy for party's
We wont easily beat them but if there is one "one off" big game manager you want on your side then its Jose.
It's qualifying to the C.L which more important to us atm I reckon, as long as we are 6th then winning this cup is a must now, but imagine all the pressure the players and the manager will have because of it, I'm afraid it will affect us badly.
I am a fan of Mourinho but man does he talk some BS sometimes. He basically taked about the importance of finishin top 4 and how it's a goal throughout the beginning of the season and now this? Anyway I do agree with him.
One. Swap the extra e for an a and I have all the correct letters in a slightly muddled order. So that's good enough for me. No thoughts on my actual post I assume?
Interesting insight although I would argue that you, and others, underestimate United and Mourinho.
If Pogba and Rashford are on their game there's no one in that Ajax line up who will get near them. That's a fact.
I see goals in this one though, especially with United missing their best centre halves.
Anyone who had seen them play on a regular basis... what kind of team are they like actually? What kind of playing style are they used to? How many international players have they got in their team? Who is their main striker/player? If you could pick a similar team in the premier league, who would it be?
If UEFA is indeed corrupt, they will give us a helping hand to win the final. United in the CL will dives up TV viewerships and attendances rather than letting Ajax win. Win-win situation for both parties.
As always, people underestimate our own players. If Jose gets his tactics right, we should win this. We quite simply have much better players throughout the squad. My only worry is that we sit back too much and neutralize our own attacking players like against Celta.
You're right, my bad.
It's bit late now, but the point is that such a big club should be too proud to moan about such a very minor disadvantage and a few injuries that really aren't out of the ordinary. You should demand to be favorite, feel obligated it to win it just because of the huge difference in size and spending. Not focus on these futile details. I think it's justified to worry about Ajax, but not because Ajax has a longer rest and you have a couple of injuries.
Mourinho managed to make it to 6th with Zlatan playing the vaste majority of the games, any midtable team could have done that. Mourinho also managed to nearly get beaten by Anderlecht. Anderlecht is not really a name that impresses anyone in Amsterdam. 'Belgian club? That's an easy draw.' I think you overestimate Mourinho. That's why you're still talking about individual players like they will decide it, but this match is going to be decided by how well Ajax plays, we know for sure that United isn't going to play well because they're not capable of playing well like Ajax. If Ajax plays well Pogba won't be on his game, his awareness is way too limited to keep up with Ajax' midfield. The lady who does the laundry at Ajax has more understanding of the positional game than Pogba. If Ajax plays really bad he can do something with his power, skills and technique, but otherwise he'll just be an extremely expensive passenger. You can't boss a game you don't understand.
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I was testing the water but now I'm certain. You're a compete WUM. No one can be that blinkered and display such a lack of footballing knowledge.
Lets see what tactical surprise does mou comes up with. I think he might go 3-5-2. or maybe use the chelsea formation. There will be something in store for ajax i am very sure, He always does something different. I think with defense looking bleak he might go 3 at the back.
if Mourinho manages to get Martial, Rashford, Mhiki and Pogba to perform in this we will do them
I am confident he will get the defence ready - Just hope that Smalling and Jones can develop some form in the last 2 games
think he will play
---------------------------Romero------------------------------
Valencia-----Smalling------Blind---------Darmiam
-------------------------Herrera---Pogba------------------
Mhiki---------------------Fellaini------------------Martial
-----------------------------Rashford--------------------------
I am confident he will get the defence ready - Just hope that Smalling and Jones can develop some form in the last 2 games
think he will play
---------------------------Romero------------------------------
Valencia-----Smalling------Blind---------Darmiam
-------------------------Herrera---Pogba------------------
Mhiki---------------------Fellaini------------------Martial
-----------------------------Rashford--------------------------
I've been thinking about Mourinho's comments about the importance of this match. Now I was and still am under the impression that he was talking about the most important since his time here. However, if you put this final into a wider context, it does stand up to the others. Most important is pushing it too far, but it's definitely one of the most important. The most important is probably the FA cup that many say saved Fergie's career. We just didn't know it at the time.
Now make no mistake, losing this game is not the end of the world (The world that happens to be round by the way), but it will be detrimental to our future aspirations in both the short and long term. In other words, it could set us back, unless we really act accordingly and pull out all the stops. At the moment, we've been able to suggest the club is in a bit of a blip. Moyes came, flopped and was promptly replaced by LVG. Then LVG's late surge got us 4th and we all thought it was time to kick on for the title. But following a horrendous window we messed it up and actually regressed, thus losing CL football again. So now we have Mourinho, an upgrade on LVG for most. We have a world class manager who's come in and spent big money on world class players. So if Mourinho gets it wrong? It will affect our status as a club, but also change how attractive we are to potential players. I don't think Griezmann for instance will come if we don't have CL footy. Whilst our rivals get stronger we will have a harder time (though we could still do it) attracting the players we need to compete next season. Get this game right, and it gives Jose a huge, huge platform to construct his team on for next season and that could leave us beneficiaries for the next few years.
That's why we need to win this match, and Jose knows it. The main reason why this match is so important IMHO is for this: In the past we've won honours to prove that we're better than the competition. However this time we need to win this match to keep up with the competition.
Now make no mistake, losing this game is not the end of the world (The world that happens to be round by the way), but it will be detrimental to our future aspirations in both the short and long term. In other words, it could set us back, unless we really act accordingly and pull out all the stops. At the moment, we've been able to suggest the club is in a bit of a blip. Moyes came, flopped and was promptly replaced by LVG. Then LVG's late surge got us 4th and we all thought it was time to kick on for the title. But following a horrendous window we messed it up and actually regressed, thus losing CL football again. So now we have Mourinho, an upgrade on LVG for most. We have a world class manager who's come in and spent big money on world class players. So if Mourinho gets it wrong? It will affect our status as a club, but also change how attractive we are to potential players. I don't think Griezmann for instance will come if we don't have CL footy. Whilst our rivals get stronger we will have a harder time (though we could still do it) attracting the players we need to compete next season. Get this game right, and it gives Jose a huge, huge platform to construct his team on for next season and that could leave us beneficiaries for the next few years.
That's why we need to win this match, and Jose knows it. The main reason why this match is so important IMHO is for this: In the past we've won honours to prove that we're better than the competition. However this time we need to win this match to keep up with the competition.
I was testing the water but now I'm certain. You're a compete WUM. No one can be that blinkered and display such a lack of footballing knowledge.
Just wondering: do you consider the people here who claim United will win easily to be a WUM?
I might have missed some United matches and forum action, but (please correct me if I am wrong) United are not exactly making sure that fans can unsqueeze their butts this season, arent they?
I read that Mourinho showed a bit emotion after the semi final, so I understand from some fans here that now he has an unfailable masterplan to easily win the Europa League final. Is that WUMming as well, cause it's a bit weird to me that a manager who has not really shown much this year and who is such a topmanager, a real Caf favorite, only can make a masterplan to easily win a game for the last game of the season.
Is it too much to ask of people here to think objective about this match:
If United play to their skill and ability, they will most likely win. But they havent done that for a while.
If Ajax play to their ability, they can put up a good fight and might even win it.
It will only end in an easy win if Ajax get an early red card or are too nervous to play well.
I wanna see Juan start this one.
Mkhitaryan ---- Mata ----- Martial
----------------Rashford ------------
Mkhitaryan ---- Mata ----- Martial
----------------Rashford ------------
I went to an Ajax game when in Amsterdam in February. Thought Schöne and Kluivert, when he came on, were their two best players on the day. Opposition wasn't great and it was a pretty poor game. Nothing I saw that day would have me worried, but watching United the past three or four weeks would!
I don't see it, it's either the more cautious 4-3-3 or a more attacking 4-2-3-1. But I'm almost certain it will be 4-3-3. We're superior to them, so why change? True he did it against Rostov, but it was the only time.
If Mata started, it would most probably be on the right. A while ago before he got injured he was playing there with Mkhitaryan as #10.
I definetely know Ajax much better than you, and therefore I know there's a lot more to good football than signing the most expensive players. If you're getting wound up by exposure to knowledge beyond your reach, I can't help that.
I was testing the water but now I'm certain. You're a compete WUM. No one can be that blinkered and display such a lack of footballing knowledge.
What people think to Jose's assertion that this is the biggest game in Uniteds history ?
Can't sit well with the die hards that one ?
Can't sit well with the die hards that one ?
Lady Luck showed us her thumb up in our last EL game against Celta at OT. I hope she is not going show us her other finger in Stockholm. On a positive side, Paul owes us at least one Pogboom this season, so here is hoping that no crossbars and goal-posts block his way this time.
He said that about Celta de Vigo at home, mind you, to express United's will to win the game as much as Celta's, since he was commenting their managers phrase. But he might say it for the final. It just means “the biggest game in United's history… now”.
our account at Manutd.com website is showing that we have come through on the ballot. Been jumping around today. £60 seats section category 3. Must meet up with some of you feckers over there.
We should not be losing this. We may not be on the level of previous United teams for European finals but we still have much more experience and quality than them. We do have more pressure though I feel. They have a bunch of kids who might play with freedom and turn us over. Then again, it's their first European final in 21 years and they might struggle with the occasion.
I have faith in us to win but I'm not sure without Zlatan. Without him in the EFL cup final we would 100% have lost. Southampton are surely not as a good as Ajax too.
I have faith in us to win but I'm not sure without Zlatan. Without him in the EFL cup final we would 100% have lost. Southampton are surely not as a good as Ajax too.
I have a calm about this game, just a bit nervous that Jose to make the right calls, we are certainly depleted but have enough quality to win, my personal concern is that just one passenger (maybe Lingaard or Rooney) could prove to be significant, it's a game where all 11 need to stand up and be counted, going by what I fear we will probably win 2-0 with Rooney and Lingaard the scorers !
Awesome post, gave me a lot of insight, but from what you've described, only Ziyech, Youness and Dolberg sound like they could cause problem, our defence has a really good low concede rate so I definitely see that continuing, I genuinely feel you'll find it difficult and probably somewhat unlucky to not score more than one goal. Good luck though, will be a very entertaining game I'm sure with 2 great clubs with fantastic histories. 2-1 United AET.
Haha, actually it is! Fun fact; when Onana comes on the pitch for his warming-up they always start the Rihanna song at volume max and the whole stadium sings.. ''O-NA-NA, What's my name? O-NA-NA!''
Actually a great character at just 21 years old, always very passionate and happy when they win or when he makes a good save. Seems like a great guy for party's
That's hilarious and had to be done!
I think he will like to throw ajax off their game. Just like conte had no answer to his tactics. Peter Bosz is known to play one way and one way only that is his way. He doesnt change his way to his opponents. That is why jose will maybe put a change in. I remember him playing defenders in midfield at real, also inter he used eto on the left. Pretty sure there will be some surprise. I think we might see-
---------Romero---------------
---Jones--Carrick----Blind----
Valencia---------------------Darmian
-------Herrera----Pogba--------------
------------Fellaini--------------------
------Rashford----Lingard------------
The chelsea formation basically with maybe carrick /smalling as the players interchangeable. I would play martial ahead of Lingard(championship level player who scores in finals) but i think jose will go for this. Safety from Ajax attacks and then pace upfront.
Haha, actually it is! Fun fact; when Onana comes on the pitch for his warming-up they always start the Rihanna song at volume max and the whole stadium sings.. ''O-NA-NA, What's my name? O-NA-NA!''
Actually a great character at just 21 years old, always very passionate and happy when they win or when he makes a good save. Seems like a great guy for party's
I don't really get that, history is history otherwise he woulda said biggest game in years or biggest game of the season would he not ?
Seems a lot of you Reds are very very confident of winning this game
I think comments like 'United always play bad' and 'Ajax's laundry lady has better positional awareness than Paul Pogba' to be either stupid or a WUM.
I opted for WUM as don't think anyone can be that much of an idiot unless you think otherwise?
I'm not getting wound up. I'm laughing at you.
Nah mate you're just ignorant. His knowledge is out of your reach. After all that's why he calls himself .Dr
Your winding yourself up :/
How else do you explain that pathetic post?
Lost the plot like a brat, you don't like people correcting you or putting you straight on your myopic posts.
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