Yeah Please add up 450 m Pounds for us , Player by player.
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Yeah Please add up 450 m Pounds for us , Player by player.
I think it's huge, it shows players that we're ready to be Manchester United again and that Mourinho, with 2 titles already in his first season, is ready to take the club back to the top.
In terms of the confidence of the current players & the psychological effect of winning a important title, this could shape the next few years at this club.
That's exactly who I was thinking.
Dude, you won't convince me of Dolberg. After the Memphis debacle, I won't be falling for young Dutch players. They absolute crap.
Last season's Dutch top scorer (Janssen), moved to Spurs last Summer. How many league goals has he scored in a team with one of the best attacks? 2.
And the season before that, Memphis was top scorer. In 1 season, how many goals did he get for MUFC? 2.
Some people need to understand that other leagues have moved on, while the Dutch league hasn't.
Yeah right.
Their defence has leaked goals and even our goal shy attackers should be able to score against that outfit.
Even players like Memphis could score against their "monster CB".
In any case, we should be going into this as firm favourites.
When you put it this way, yes this is a HUGE game, for us.
We absolutely need to win this, even though our best defender (Rojo) and best attacker (Ibra) shall be missing. And is Baily also missing? That would be our 2nd best defender, gone as well.
Gross we (Real Madrid) have spent £203m in the last 3 seasons. Juventus have spent £332.5m gross in the last 3 seasons.
So just to outline that for you.
Last 3 seasons:
Man Utd £455m
Juventus £332.5m
Real Madrid £203m
Their fullbacks have been very poor but that doesn't mean Sanchez and that young 17 year old aren't good players. They've gotten this far and shouldn't be underestimated now of all times.
He's not even Dutch. But should never just look at statistics, look at the player too, statistics just tell part of the story. Some will be flops, but a club like Ajax will continue to have talents like Eriksen and Suarez too. And this is their most talented team in a long time, while it's also probably their youngest team. Some of them are going to be top players eventually, I have no doubt about that. But that doesn't mean they're ready for a club like us already, some will need time to develop. And a player like Dolberg is the complete striker talent. He's skilled, creative, clinical, strong. Not really the case with players like Depay and Janssen, who were never the complete package for their positions. But that's just my opinion, time will tell.
They leak goals mostly due to their midfield and style of play in my opinion. They basically play with 3 attacking midfielders, one of them just assumes the deeplying playmaker role, but he's pretty inept defensively. They don't really sit back, but try to play high pressure, but aren't dominant enough to keep possession enough, they struggle to be compact defensively and it brings problems to their defense, too much space. Sanchez is actually defensively really talented though, but he can't do it by himself. He played in the team that won the Copa Libertadores last summer, and now Europa League final, not bad. I think he's going be a top player, but he'll need some time. Also still just 20, which is very young for a central defender.
How accurate is the £455m figure? Has it just been taken from that guys tweet?
In fairness £100m can be 2 players at the top level these days, if that.
Also, Real have a few players who may need replacing soon so I'm sure we'll see their spending shoot up to match that of United's at some point. I mean you may well be splashing out £60m on our GK in the not too distant future.
I'm still hoping we'll get a few more signings right from here on so the spending will calm down for a time.
Those are good arguments and I agree with you on that.
I took it from the tweet, looking it up myself I added the total to be £455.85m, so it was accurate.
In terms of Madrid spending, it may shoot up looking at it from this point of view (gross). But overall I don't think it will be significant.
I don't think we will need to do any significant spending in the future, we bought Theo recently for £25m to replace Coentrao. We have Vallejo and Llorente returning from loan to bolster the likelihood of Pepe and James leaving.
If Morata leaves we will need to buy a CF but we have a lot fo options there as well, especially from the money we would get from James and Morata. We may purchase a new keeper, that would be the only outstanding cost on its own.
Looking it up Real Madrid have only spent £59m net in the last 3 seasons combined. I suspect this trend will continue for a while with all the young players we have and are investing in.
That dolberg guy looks good. If he performs against us, I expect us to sign him. 
He has abit of everything (sort of like suarez) and is only 19 ffs.
He has abit of everything (sort of like suarez) and is only 19 ffs.
- He's not Dutch
- He's not for sale.
- You say Depay en Janssen (not Ajax). I say Eriksen, Vertonghen, Suarez, Alderweireld, Blind. (Ajax, last couple of years)
A trophy is a trophy.
Don't matter how you win it, just win it.
Don't matter how you win it, just win it.
Some people, like you for instance, need to understand full stop.
It was wasnt it?
@Sjaakmeoff good post.. but I think you should be promoted for your user name alone.
Please read this mods..
No excuses for negative play in this game
Add up man utd numbers player by player please, I'd would love to know the mathematics.
Our net spend in last 3 seasons is not more than 275 m pounds , one who brought up a 455m figure must have told a toddler to add up the numbers.
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I guess you need to understand a few things, cause you're showing an awfull lack of it.
Dolberg is not Dutch. That is the most obvious one. Easy to check as well.
Besides that, Janssen en Depay are totally different situations. Janssen had a one season wonder for a club outside the top in the Eredivise. Good job on him.
Depay had a wonderfull season scoring wise, but the rest of his play fell short.
It's just that the rich clubs of this world are so afraid of missing out on the next best thing that they splash their cash around, draining our league from players if they show a bit of talent or have one good season. "Buy him and loan him back" is somethng we read here more often. Like spoilt rich kids. I want this flavour of the month.
Janssen took the fast way, while most of the people here thought he wasnt ready. I"t can happen of course, but a few years back, Janssen didnt even play at Eredivisie level.
Depay has an attitude problem. At PSV he could be the star player and he was left in freedom, but he was not much of a teamplayer. Every man and his dog could have seen that, but apparently good scouting is problem.
Dolberg, even though he is doing well, knows he is far from the finished product and feels at home at Ajax where he gets time to mature. He already stated he stays if ajax wants to go on with him. He knows United would never play him as first striker anyway as he is too young. They will just splash some cash around for the next best thing. Look at all the Chelsea loanes. Players with no home.
You can't say "This player sucked and that player sucked, so all players from their league must suck." It's a statement so lacking understanding that I was surprised there was no white text. You look at the individual, his class and what kind of head is on his shoulders and then decide.
Our "Monster CB" never played against Depay as he is new to our league. Also an easy fact.
Yes, we concede goals. We don't make these flipping awesome unbeaten runs as United does, while every one is clapping and dancing at their awesome display of football.
No, this season, we concede goals, but we make alot of them too. And we play beautifull for the most time since a long time.
We won't be champions in Holland, we probably will not win the Europa League, since United are on such a different level apparently, but our season has already been succesful.
We can watch the football again from our club that we started to support for that reason, beautiful play.
It might be that we don't show up at all and are bullied around the pitch, but if we play at the best we can, than we, Ajax, are gonna have some fun.
Your post has made ma bit angry. So I am sorry if I sound a bit unreasonable and disrespectful.
And if it's in your personality, be more considerate of how you speak about things.
You should learn the difference between gross and net lmao
Net is what counts, that is how the books are balanced.
Also, stop clogging our buildup thread with your bollocks. Go wave your white handkerchief.
My boss at work actually asked me if I would be satisfied with United's season if we won the Europa league!
He then went on to suggest it wouldn't be a successful season!!
City and their rich history lol!
How the hell can a City fan suggest winning two trophies isn't a successful season.
He then went on to suggest it wouldn't be a successful season!!
City and their rich history lol!
How the hell can a City fan suggest winning two trophies isn't a successful season.
Except if it's what wins us the game.
Where is our gross seeing as thats your arguement?
Yea exactly, he is good in holland. But we can testify first hand that dont mean a whole lot. Thats not to say he isn't great when called upon at the higher level or wont be great. Its just good stats in holland can be missleading
Especially when they're not going to win a thing this season.
Grew up watching the UEFA cup as it was then, which was incredibly hard to win as only the league winners played in the European cup. Although now, the CL has all the top teams, diminishing the Europa, playing in a European final is still very special. It's not like it happens every day....
Because every club we buy from overprices it's players and we are gullible enough to pay just because we have the money.
You should learn to read
That exact reason is prob why Real Madrid is focusing more on youth lately. The market is horrendous. You used to be able to buy Zidane's and Ronaldo's for 80m, now you buy Higuain's and Pogba's for 90m+.
Crazy.
Three!
This is so ignorant. There have been huge English flops who had a big price tag all over the premier league, does that mean all young English players are crap?
You have to look at a player individually. It is stupid to do otherwise. Liverpool bought Suarez from Ajax, after a recent topscorer from the dutch league, Alves from Heerenveen flopped in the premier league. That worked out pretty well for liverpool I would say. Players like Janssen and Alves are always big risks for clubs to take, because they came from relatively small clubs in Holland. Making the transition from the subtop of the Dutch league to the premier league is too big. And Depay still has a chance to become a pretty good player. He lacks certain things, but I believe he will end up at a big club in the future.
No offence but that's a stupid thing to say.
Let's not buy any players from a league because a few flopped. We can say the same of so many players from other leagues that failed in their PL.
RVN, Robben, VDS, overmars, bergkamp, blind, that spurs defender (alderweireld) all failed in the pl?
Stupid thing to say never you never should sign Dutch young players when so many have been a great success. Plus I still think Memphis could have been great if he was more determined to make it at utd.
Apart from that
Madrid focusing on the youth? That's because they are already set with superb first team. Comparing the spend from last 3 years makes 0 sense as at that time ManUtd started to revamp their entire squad whereas Madrid team started to peak.
Madrid spent more than 450 Million in 3 seasons and that was back in 2007. Players like Ramos, Pepe, Modric, Ronaldo, Bale, Benzema were all big signings and made long back.
I won't say a successful season. But I will be happy that we make progress compared to previous seasons (if we win it). Winning trophies especially Europa League which is bigger than FA and League Cup will give the other players a winning mentality and more confidence for the next upcoming season to compete with tier 1 compeitions (CL and EPL). And this is good for young players like Pogba, Rashford, Bailly, Martial and etc.
I was being asked the same question as well by Chelsea fans and he thinks that top 4 is more legit than mickey mouse trophies and only for non big club like Sevilla. But Europa League this time is different with before since it also gives you a CL ticket means the competition on that is tougher or bigger.
That, and that our deal with Adidas will get worse if we miss out on Champions League 2 years on a row, IIRC?
Damn right. Why is everybody forgetting the Charity Shield? The Micky Mouse Treble is on lads!
Yes, but not by much. It was touched upon in another thread, apparently the fee is reduced only for that season - not the total fee.
Good post.
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