Afghanistan
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At this point the deadline for US troops to be out of Afghanistan is less than 48 hrs.
https://www.cnn.com/
The CNN homepage has nothing on their homepage about the people still stuck in a terrorist nation.
https://www.cnn.com/
The CNN homepage has nothing on their homepage about the people still stuck in a terrorist nation.
I feel that this will end up like pro-wrestling in which the US and Taliban will team up again after years of fighting, just to fight IS-K.
I see the Taliban promising to give women rights, but in the end, they will continue to delay the promises and transition, but the West will turn a blind eye if Taliban ends up fighting IS-K.
I see the Taliban promising to give women rights, but in the end, they will continue to delay the promises and transition, but the West will turn a blind eye if Taliban ends up fighting IS-K.
Disgusting. Of course there is very little on this in the US since they're someone else's kids. Humans are real bastards and the blood of these children is on Biden's hands as much as that of the bomber who was hiding nearby (if he actually existed).
Just heard it mentioned nonchalantly on CNN. The ripped roofs in NO are more important than some Afghan 2 year old children getting droned.
USA is back!
You're probably onto something here. Of course much will depend on how much the Taliban are prepared to moderate in order to secure international recognition and funds to run the country, now that the US isn't bankrolling the Afghan budget anymore.
Shock.
How many people do America kill each year via drones, where those killed are 'alleged' XYZ
Imagine if they were white skinned.
oh, we'd still kill them I am sure, there would just be a few more minutes each night on CNN discussing it.
The 350,000 to 500,000 Germans killed by bombing in WW2 would have been all white I'd have thought. To be fair the British would have killed a fair chunk of them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_casualties_in_World_War_II
bloody hell the skin color means fuk all
It's a shame all these vehicles, weapon systems and rifles are left behind, but most of the weapon systems and vehicles are most likely no use to the taliban, right? I mean - they don't have the technical knowhow, logistical abilities and ressources to maintain them. They'll be useless in a few months. Those rifles and other ground equipment for modern warfare (night goggles, scopes, whatever...), on the other hand - I've read about 300.000 rifles and 100.000 machine guns - are quite troublesome. Very powerful tools and completely suitable for the taliban and their soon to be rogue state.
If you look at it from that point of view.
Logistic wise that's an epic blunder, how many trillions of taxpayer money are wasted down there? And now they're talking about setting up shop in SEA.
And it's not hard for russia to send a few of their "technicians to teach them how to fly those" APCs aren't exactly hard to drive either.
You would imagine that the attack helicopters and advanced weapon systems are not only complicated to use but also locked down with encryption. It’s not going to be a case of putting a key in and turning the ignition. They’re going to be reliant on military comms just to even work.
They will be sold for parts and analysis, you’re never going to see them in action.
Wait they left 4 C130?
Having a hard time believing that to be honest. Any real sources for that?
Having a hard time believing that to be honest. Any real sources for that?
https://www.defensenews.com/air/202...ess-to-us-military-aircraft-now-what-happens/
" The Afghan air force operated 23 A-29 attack planes, four C-130 cargo planes and a total of 33 militarized versions of the Cessna Caravan, some of which were configured for a light attack mission, according to the special inspector report."
So it wasn't Biden who gave them four c-130 it was the US over the past couple of years?
When it comes to these vehicles, that's definitely the worst part. The amount of money just put into a vehicle grave, absolutely insane to think about what could have been achieved using those dollars for something actually good.
Think so as well. The money part is absolute mindboggling. Here I am reading on reddit about people voting against free school lunches in some states/districts, about student loan debt, a problematic situation in health care for a large part of the population and what not. And the US simply dumped all of that instead of helping their people. By the looks of it, I don't even think the US really profited financially from the war in Afghanistan all things considered. Just waste.
It doesn't matter whether it was Biden or previous administrations that gave the Afghan military these aircrafts. They didn't give them to the Taliban. The Taliban seized them.
Makes a huge difference to me. The Afghanistan failure was a decade long failure and blaming the person bringing it to an end for the mistakes that have caused this mess adds nothing but confusion.
I'd like to know where they are getting this information from given that the military have left a vast majority of everything they left behind as inoperable. The Taliban would of course have complete access to the US weapons the Afghan Army abandoned.
Some of the numbers does seem incorrect.
He is responsible for the way of the withdrawal of the US troops, though.
Yes, that's why it makes a difference whether the US military left 4 hercules or the Afghan "army" did...
Chinese will be onto these like flies.
My point is that the US could have (heavily) influenced these situations as well, if the withdrawal was planned properly.
These problems would've happened under nearly any scenario. Once Trump's team met with the Taliban in Qatar (in the absence of the actual Afghan government) and committed to a US withdrawal, it completely kneecapped the Afghan government and military from preventing what would eventually happen - and indeed did this past month.
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I wonder if leaving the equipment was left in agreement for the Taliban to fight IS?
Aside from taking / destroying anything they gave the Afghan "army" (which would have defeated the purpose) I don't see how the end result wouldn't always have been the same.
I doubt it. It was supposed to be to fight the Taliban. Once they had armed the Afghan army, they couldn't just take back the equipment they had given them once they were leaving.
Yes, that makes better sense.
There's an infinite amount of weapons abandoned by the Afghan Army that can do that.
Where is this from?
A load of BS. State of the art helicopters are blackhawks from the 80s . Not gunships like Apache etc. Planes are A-29 which is a propeller aircraft.
Feel like media is overblowing the equipment story a tad. The Blackhawks are 1980’s technology, the ‘attack planes’ have propellers ffs, nobody gives a shit, Russia/China certainly won’t be clamouring to “reverse engineer” anything. Software might be more state of the art, but as mentioned should be secure.
Assult rifles grow on trees is Afghan, night vision gear can be bought by anyone, anywhere. The Hilux they already use are far better for them than Humvees. It’s just scrap metal.
Even then the ANA handed over this stuff, it belonged to them, not the US. They had to be equipped with something, who gives a shit where it was made. Taliban is now a government, they can source goods from all sorts of places.
Assult rifles grow on trees is Afghan, night vision gear can be bought by anyone, anywhere. The Hilux they already use are far better for them than Humvees. It’s just scrap metal.
Even then the ANA handed over this stuff, it belonged to them, not the US. They had to be equipped with something, who gives a shit where it was made. Taliban is now a government, they can source goods from all sorts of places.
100% . This story is made for social media reposting, but when you take a closer look much of it is easily explained due to abandoned ANA weapons and Taliban soldiers taking selfies with inoperable equipment abandoned by the US.
And all were stated as being made inoperable before the US left.
A number of Humvee were also left behind. But these pose no risk.
The US,Taliban and Afghan government had an agreement. Then President Ghani fecked it up by leaving without telling anyone. That collapsed the Afghan Army. They even offered to provide security for the airport.
Biden did good in getting out of there. Now they are saying the British messed up by insisting on keeping on Gate open.
Biden did good in getting out of there. Now they are saying the British messed up by insisting on keeping on Gate open.