AFC Bournemouth transfers

How many times have we seen clubs get promoted, spend feck loads, then go straight back down? I think Leicester is a better model to emulate than QPR. Spend around 15-20m on three-four solid players (that Cambiasso free was excellent for them).
 
No point splashing cash if it's not for the right players. The business they've done so far is good although it isn't much, but there's alot of time left.
 
And now Tyrone Mings for a club record................don't know anything about him. Will go and research...
 
I'd be interested to know the stats of staying up versus going down for the team that won the Championship the year before.

Always seems like the 2nd/playoff winner team does better.
 
I think you got lucky with this thread. The prior signings were decent, experienced and cheap players.

But Tyrone Mings for £8m... fecking hell. Howe must be on something.
 
Dans said:
And now Tyrone Mings for a club record................don't know anything about him. Will go and research...
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Ipswich got him from non league Chippenham and he's stepped in to replace Aaron Cresswell who went to West Ham last year. Mings was breaking through anyway and many feel he's a central defender naturally but he's spent the majority of his playing time at LB. He is tall, strong, fast, can tackle, good technical skills and seems a strong dribbler. Arsenal were linked with him for quite some time. Has made some mistakes at Ipswich but that's to be expected with his lack of experience. He seems to have all the attributes needed to be a top defender it's just if he can get enough game time to learn his trade and improve himself in my opinion.
 
The price for Mings is a bit excessive considering he's coming from the Championship but he's a good player, will be a good deal if they stay up and he stays for a while.
 
Joemo said:
I think you got lucky with this thread. The prior signings were decent, experienced and cheap players.

But Tyrone Mings for £8m... fecking hell. Howe must be on something.
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mad amount of money, and beats their record by 3m!!

Will be interesting to see how a billionaire owner/new premier league income, yet otherwise tiny infrastructure affect financial fair play rules
 
May sound strange but for a club like this it is actually naive to do your business too quickly , I remember when Palace came up and signed a lot of players and then other players became available and they ended up having over 25 players .
 
They reckon Ings will cost £8m so they Bournemouth are getting a free M.
 
As part of the Mings deal to Bournemouth, Ryan Fraser will join Ipwich on a season long loan. In what "apparently" is a separate deal Bret Pittman joins Ipswich on a permanent deal.

Mings had been linked with big clubs like Arsenal and has been touted as a future star, I don't think £8m is too unrealistic. Seems to be a down to earth lad too and/or he has one of the best agents in the country as he paid of his mum's debts publicly and gave a ticket to a fan who told him he was too skint to go to a game.
 
lem8sh said:
Is not and never will be a premier league level left back. It's one of the most absurd fees I've seen in ages .
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He's a 22 year old coming off the back of his first proper break through season and you've decided he'll never be good enough for this league?
 
Santos J said:
He's a 22 year old coming off the back of his first proper break through season and you've decided he'll never be good enough for this league?
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Mings has a lot of improving to do, I'd say his passing game is not quite perfected yet but he has all the physical and technical prowess to be a top defender and may one day be an England player. He broke through to prominence this season after a few appearances here and there the season before, Ipswich fans have been expecting him to leave since about October if not longer.
 
lem8sh said:
Is not and never will be a premier league level left back. It's one of the most absurd fees I've seen in ages .
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He's touted as an eventual CB. Does seem like a lot of money though - this is a real test of another side of Howe's abilities - splashing serious cash, something he's not really done before. Callum Wilson was only 3m btw, so they have smashed their previous fee record by 5m.
 
Mciahel Goodman said:
How many times have we seen clubs get promoted, spend feck loads, then go straight back down? I think Leicester is a better model to emulate than QPR. Spend around 15-20m on three-four solid players (that Cambiasso free was excellent for them).
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It is a bit mind boggling. You take a team good enough to escape the Championship and then rip it apart and hope those players are good enough to overcome half of your first 11 being new to the club.

IMO grabbing a couple of loan players and replacing your weakest positions seems a far more intelligent option as you don't have to be better than 21 teams, only 3.
 
beergod said:
It is a bit mind boggling. You take a team good enough to escape the Championship and then rip it apart and hope those players are good enough to overcome half of your first 11 being new to the club.

IMO grabbing a couple of loan players and replacing your weakest positions seems a far more intelligent option as you don't have to be better than 21 teams, only 3.
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To be fair to Bournemouth though they used a squad of about 20 players of which a few only played about 3 games. Some of them are just not good enough, there is no doubt the core of the team won't change too much. They are hardly ripping their team apart but replacing players who can't be expected to contribute significantly enough in the PL like Pitman, Fraser and Harte. Harte played 9 games last season, if he did the same next season it could be a disaster for them against the wingers in the PL, hence signing Mings. I think Bournemouth are trying to do what you said - they re signed Boruc too after all.
 
Mings for that price was punchy, no-one is going to pay 8mil for him if they go down so punchy price.

But is very highly rated, if he shows something and they stay up, fine. But chances of them recouping that are slim whatever they do this year.
 
IwatUwat said:
Mings for that price was punchy, no-one is going to pay 8mil for him if they go down so punchy price.

But is very highly rated, if he shows something and they stay up, fine. But chances of them recouping that are slim whatever they do this year.
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People may have seen from previous posts that I do rate Mings, they need someone with pace to keep up with wingers in the premier league and Mings has that as well as many other qualities. I don't expect him to set the league alight but I think with his potential resale value, Mings is a good bit of business by Bournemouth.

Personally I think they need a striker of quality, I think Callum Wilson may get a few this year but they need someone else (who isn't Kermogant).
 
Irrespective of the potential ,spending 8mn on a 22yr old lb who has played 56 games in his professional career (all at the championship level) can hardly be called a smart choice. However is a good manager though so I guess he must rate the guy very very highly.
 
Seems odd to spend the majority what little budget they must have on a LB. Mings is naturally a CB so maybe he will be used there as a good CB is key to staying up, I think it will be a good move for them bringing him in. Can see Spurs or someone signing him next summer on the back of a good season.
 
They don't want to disrupt the team that played some great football last season and are being extra cautious with their signings. It's their first time in the Premier League, so that's the right strategy IMO. Some may think they've overpaid for Mings, but he's only 22 years old, so they have a decent chance on making a profit on him n time, even if they go down next season. It's a smart investment.

It's a much better strategy than signing some washed up wannabes with ''experience'' that the club would struggle to get rid of one or two years down the line when no one would want them anymore because of their age and salary.

It's basically the same strategy as Burnley's last season. Everyone expected them to get relegated and in the end they did, but they put up a good fight and were only 5 points from safety. Even though they're back in the Championship, they have no debt, have smartly retained their manager instead of sacking him and are not forced to sell their important players.

Their signings so far haven't been THAT bad.
Boruc - was their main keeper last season anyway.
Federici - good backup
Distin - wealth of experience and won't be a starter anyway
Mings - decent young player with great resale value
 
Another two in - team is changing quite a lot now.
 
Scorpy said:
They don't want to disrupt the team that played some great football last season and are being extra cautious with their signings. It's their first time in the Premier League, so that's the right strategy IMO. Some may think they've overpaid for Mings, but he's only 22 years old, so they have a decent chance on making a profit on him n time, even if they go down next season. It's a smart investment.

It's a much better strategy than signing some washed up wannabes with ''experience'' that the club would struggle to get rid of one or two years down the line when no one would want them anymore because of their age and salary.

It's basically the same strategy as Burnley's last season. Everyone expected them to get relegated and in the end they did, but they put up a good fight and were only 5 points from safety. Even though they're back in the Championship, they have no debt, have smartly retained their manager instead of sacking him and are not forced to sell their important players.

Their signings so far haven't been THAT bad.
Boruc - was their main keeper last season anyway.
Federici - good backup
Distin - wealth of experience and won't be a starter anyway
Mings - decent young player with great resale value
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It seems to be as if they are trying to shore up the defence with back-up keeper, an experienced CB and a young defender. The comparison with Burnley are obvious considering both clubs hardly have a history of consistent regular PL seasons and both have managers who seemed to get the best out of them. But I think we are underestimating Howe. He seems to be a lot more pragmatic than Dyche and Bournemouth also seems to have a much better goal threat than Burnley anyway and their overall team has a style which if they persist with and have a defence with a little more experience could get results. I think we might be in for a surprise with Bournemouth. From what I read about them, they seem to take great endeavor into following Swansea way and they might as well stay up this season.
 
Tomlin looks a good signing for them, he did look above the championship when playing for Boro. Interested to see how he gets on.
 
Personally think they are steadying the ship, trying not to change too much while also sorting themselves out with players who may not leave if they go back down. They cant pay wages so not surprised, got to be picky.

I am surprised in their lack of loan signings but could imagine Howe doesnt like that idea in terms of team playing to his style and continuity.
 
For a team who've lost there first two games, they have started incredibly well. Robbed last night.
 
Dans said:
For a team who've lost there first two games, they have started incredibly well. Robbed last night.
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I watched their first game against Villa after our Tottenham game and I thought it was an absolute breath of fresh air, what happened last night?
 
Liverpool's goal should have been disallowed, and Bournemouth had a goal disallowed that should have stood.
 
They were decent last night from what I saw. Some pacy attackers and good pressing harried the accusers, especially the 1st 20/25 mins. Certainly a better watch than some of the snooze fest teams that scrape by each year (Sunderland, Villa etc).

Going about their business the right way too. I hate it when promoted clubs sign over the hill PL players looking for a last big contract. It never works & then they get relegated with huge wages still to pay.

Hope they get a result in their next match as it'll give them belief to push on.
 
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They were decent last night from what I saw. Some pacy attackers and good pressing harried the accusers, especially the 1st 20/25 mins. Certainly a better watch than some of the snooze fest teams that scrape by each year (Sunderland, Villa etc).

Going about their business the right way too. I hate it when promoted clubs sign over the hill PL players looking for a last big contract. It never works & then they get relegated with huge wages still to pay.

Hope they get a result in their next match as it'll give them belief to push on.
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Thought they did alright last night, close possession wise, hit the post, goal disallowed, offside goal against.

BUT think their signing so far have been a bit weak. Wilson and King as your forwards not prem quality or at least very unproven and unlikely to make the grade. If they could have got a player like Lambert in that would have helped, just as at some point you need someone who will hold onto the ball for you a bit, I think with their style games will be relatively open and even though their defence has done well last two games its the same players they had in league 1, and a season in the prem I think they'll get found out. For me Mings isnt the answer either for that price.

Potentially Howe is trying to keep the spirit and reward the players for getting them up, and allow the team to keep players if they go back down. It does have to be carefully managed but I think a few loan signings and a bit of experience up top could have really benefited them. Window is still open so we shall see.

Gradel Mourinho was saying he could play for any of the top teams, didnt massively show it last night, but Howe has been chasing him for a while so hopefully he makes a difference.

Like Howe and think he goes about it the right way. But the depth of their squad and premier league quality within it is questionably even though a tough away game they looked a match for liverpool. Hope I'm wrong and Howe pulls it out the bag through team spirit, continuity of the style and fight be a great story if so.
 
IwatUwat said:
Thought they did alright last night, close possession wise, hit the post, goal disallowed, offside goal against.

BUT think their signing so far have been a bit weak. Wilson and King as your forwards not prem quality or at least very unproven and unlikely to make the grade. If they could have got a player like Lambert in that would have helped, just as at some point you need someone who will hold onto the ball for you a bit, I think with their style games will be relatively open and even though their defence has done well last two games its the same players they had in league 1, and a season in the prem I think they'll get found out. For me Mings isnt the answer either for that price.

Potentially Howe is trying to keep the spirit and reward the players for getting them up, and allow the team to keep players if they go back down. It does have to be carefully managed but I think a few loan signings and a bit of experience up top could have really benefited them. Window is still open so we shall see.

Gradel Mourinho was saying he could play for any of the top teams, didnt massively show it last night, but Howe has been chasing him for a while so hopefully he makes a difference.

Like Howe and think he goes about it the right way. But the depth of their squad and premier league quality within it is questionably even though a tough away game they looked a match for liverpool. Hope I'm wrong and Howe pulls it out the bag through team spirit, continuity of the style and fight be a great story if so.
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I think they've been smart in that even if they don't stay up this time they'll have a squad which won't have to be decimated if they go down and should be stronger than their squad last year. They are probably working to the scenario that they'll go down and are being sensible and secure considering their previous financial issues and that they aren't a massive club even in the Championship.

On the point you make about maybe signing Lambert, I'm not 100% but I think Wilson will be a big hit in the PL and I can understand why Howe wants speedy forwards.
 
Said it in the PL prediction thread but they'll be the same as Burnley last season in my opinion. Look quite good and deserve a bit more than they get but sadly won't have that quality and cutting edge that is needed at this level and will most likely be relegated. If they keep their team spirit they have a slim chance though.
 
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