mitchmouse
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On a free, this is a no-brainer too me. We have to improve the whole squad
Guess he will never ever get an injury then. And of course it mattters if Eriksen cannot play at a high level thats one of the reasons we finished 8th last season.Mount isn’t Bruno’s backup. Bruno literally plays every game. He was used as a #8 and on the LW sometimes last season. And it doesnt matter if Eriksen can’t play at a high level. The fact of the matter is they are still here. You can’t keep adding players and payroll. Got to move them on.
Sure, it's speculative. But I reckon if we had real interest we would have signed him already or someone reliable would have reported something. He's been a free agent for weeks now.
It all depends on which version of Casemiro we will get and whether Ten Hag will have the managerial skill to manage him well on things like his matches and training load to keep him fresh because I think Rabiot, Collyer and Mainoo can rotate in and out for the role, depending on the opponent, to ensure that Casemiro is only played in the type of matches that are appropriate for whatever level he will show.Should get Rabiot in anyway and still be looking to get a Ugarte/Zubimendi as well. Much as a fan of Adrien that I am it's not enough on his own that's for certain
It all depends on which version of Casemiro we will get and whether Ten Hag will have the managerial skill to manage him well on things like his matches and training load to keep him fresh because I think Rabiot, Collyer and Mainoo can rotate in and out for the role, depending on the opponent, to ensure that Casemiro is only played in the type of matches that are appropriate for whatever level he will show.
Well there is nothing more I'd love to see than see one of Collyer or Gore make it here and them just having Casemiro and Rabiot to rotate in on increases their chances but I am also aware of the fact that we can't throw another season away like we did the last through sentimental decisions/indecisions.Yeah I'm not going to judge Casemiro on a better showing against Betis in pre-season, need to see it against City in Community Shield. Really hope it's not a case of Rabiot is a last resort and we don't sign anyone else in midfield but could see it happening.
Great, whilst we piss about, just sign him up ffs.
It says they're interested...
We've also had tweets say we're interested.
Why is the one above more believable than when we're linked?
I think Collyer is the Mctominay replacement.Rabiot seems more of a McTominay replacement to me, with the ability to play 6. So I think we would happier go into a season with Rabiot, Collyer, Mainoo and Casemiro as the true CMs in the squad. Ugarte would be a welcome addition to that, but I imagine someone else would need to leave.
I think Collyer is the Mctominay replacement.
Big signing on fee and wages, I think the club aren't going to sign anyone his age on big wages.Still need to sign 2 midfielders and can't understand why Rabiot seemingly isn't one of them
Perhaps, but Collyer to me has always seemed like a deeper lying midfielder than a box to box type. I see him as an Amrabaat replacement. Maybe he's the Scott replacement if we end up with Amrabaat!I think Collyer is the Mctominay replacement.
Big signing on fee and wages, I think the club aren't going to sign anyone his age on big wages.
Big signing on fee and wages, I think the club aren't going to sign anyone his age on big wages.
All the recruitment is skewing much younger, middle to long contracts, I think INEOS hope they can create a good core of players for a (relative) bargain and not have to reinvest constantly in the squad except for one or two pieces every summer. They might not be interested in stop gaps, they inherited a lot of players that are functionally that for their tenure considering their contract runs out in 1 or 2 years.
Depending on his potential salary demand this might also be a bad sign if it doesn't confirm to whatever wage ladder they want to impose.
Ultimately Rabiot might just be not the profile they want.
Would he be an upgrade? Didn’t see him do much at the Euro’s and I can’t see him putting in the effort or scoring the goals that McTominay has got us.McTominay out for £25m, Rabiot in for nothing. I mean, it's a very sensible upgrade to the squad.
Didn't we make an offer last season and stepped away after hearing his salary demands?Have we even enquired about those two things, hope we haven't just assumed about the fees
I could be wrong but reckon this might be the crux of it.All the recruitment is skewing much younger, middle to long contracts, I think INEOS hope they can create a good core of players for a (relative) bargain and not have to reinvest constantly in the squad except for one or two pieces every summer. They might not be interested in stop gaps, they inherited a lot of players that are functionally that for their tenure considering their contract runs out in 1 or 2 years.
Depending on his potential salary demand this might also be a bad sign if it doesn't confirm to whatever wage ladder they want to impose.
Ultimately Rabiot might just be not the profile they want.
Didn't we make an offer last season and stepped away after hearing his salary demands?
Would he be an upgrade? Didn’t see him do much at the Euro’s and I can’t see him putting in the effort or scoring the goals that McTominay has got us.
No I’d rather Utd say no thank you.
Would he be an upgrade? Didn’t see him do much at the Euro’s and I can’t see him putting in the effort or scoring the goals that McTominay has got us.
No I’d rather Utd say no thank you.
Yea i meant that. I reckon he wouldn't demand a lower salary than back then, would he?Wasn't that two years ago when Murtough and Arnold trekked over to Turin and got nowhere
Yea i meant that. I reckon he wouldn't demand a lower salary than back then, would he?
Yea i meant that. I reckon he wouldn't demand a lower salary than back then, would he?
Interesting, I don’t watch any foreign domestic football so was just going off what I saw in the Euro’s.He was very good defensively while coming back from injury but liked dynamism going for forward which isn't normal for him. Also Rabiot puts infinitely more effort on the field than McTominay, the goal ratios are pretty close while their assists ratios aren't.
This would be ideal, but I think Rabiot would want a longer contract as this would be his last big one while I presume United would only offer 2+1 contract. I mean given our financial restriction, getting someone like Rabiot on free would be a no brainer. But his age and contract length would make United think twiceRabiot would rotate with Mainoo for the midfield position. He plays in the left half space too. Collyer and Eriksen additional cover for the 6 and 8 position. Scotty sold.
Bruno - Mount
Mainoo - Rabiot - Eriksen
Ugarte - Casemiro - Collyer
We could let Eriksen go too, but he could be helpful. We need the players, it's a long season, also given the new format in Europe.
This type of strategy doesn't account for the present.All the recruitment is skewing much younger, middle to long contracts, I think INEOS hope they can create a good core of players for a (relative) bargain and not have to reinvest constantly in the squad except for one or two pieces every summer. They might not be interested in stop gaps, they inherited a lot of players that are functionally that for their tenure considering their contracts run out in 1 or 2 years.
Depending on his potential salary demand this might also be a bad sign if it doesn't confirm to whatever wage ladder they want to impose.
Ultimately Rabiot might just be not the profile they want.
There is no way he is asking for 250k. Obviously there will be a signing on bonus of maybe £5m but his weekly wages will be around £150-160k.The issue with Rabiot is salary
he will expect 250k a week minimum coming with his profile and on a free I'd imagine
these wages are a major obstacle at the minute and when you are paying that kind of money you expect the player to be a starter, performing well with consistency.
I'm not sure you can say that about Rabiot? Maybe a nice idea on paper but in reality a headache of sorts. A bit like Mount in a way where we have a highly paid player who is unlikely to be anything other than a backup?
The issue with Rabiot is salary
he will expect 250k a week minimum coming with his profile and on a free I'd imagine
these wages are a major obstacle at the minute and when you are paying that kind of money you expect the player to be a starter, performing well with consistency.
I'm not sure you can say that about Rabiot? Maybe a nice idea on paper but in reality a headache of sorts. A bit like Mount in a way where we have a highly paid player who is unlikely to be anything other than a backup?
Italian tax laws are very good for footballers, UK ones aren’t.That certainly is one imagination you got there.
He's on around 140-150 now, I believe.
Granted, however, UK teams aren't obligated to compensate that taxation difference, and we're thankfully not under Woodward anymore. I'd like to think that, at best, it's a compromise rather than an outright agreement to make up the entire difference in net.Italian tax laws are very good for footballers, UK ones aren’t.
Sure ratcliffe said in his recent interview that Utd are going for a younger profile squad i.e. 17-24 age group so like arsenal are now doing, the players hit their peak years around the same sort of time.All the recruitment is skewing much younger, middle to long contracts, I think INEOS hope they can create a good core of players for a (relative) bargain and not have to reinvest constantly in the squad except for one or two pieces every summer. They might not be interested in stop gaps, they inherited a lot of players that are functionally that for their tenure considering their contracts run out in 1 or 2 years.
Depending on his potential salary demand this might also be a bad sign if it doesn't confirm to whatever wage ladder they want to impose.
Ultimately Rabiot might just be not the profile they want.