Adrien Rabiot | signs 1 year deal at Juventus. See you all next year

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People love to talk about panic buys, but the truth is, yesterday ETH learned a few things about the team, squad and league. He has reacted to that new realization and I don't see how that is necessarily a bad thing. He learned that Fred is not as useful as he perhaps thought he could be. He learnt that Mctominay was completely useless. He learnt that Eriksen could operate deeper. He learnt that using a false 9 would not work in the league and adding a third choice striker may be needed. He probably also learnt that starting Malacia may be the right thing to do from now rather than waiting further along the line. There are probably other things he learnt, concerning our centre back partnerships or rotations in the frontline as well.

If he feels from what he has seen, and honestly what most people saw before his move to Juventus, that Rabiot has really good skillsets that haven't been realized by the teams he has been with, then its good to take a punt for that fee. He has good passing ability, is a really good tackler, that may not be the most creative, but has the ability to control and keep hold of the ball. His awareness in midfield has been good enough to dominate teams in different title winning teams.

My hope before the window was that we could get in players who would be able to fill that gap in midfield, especially as it is very important in today's game. If we can get him in for 18m that would be phenomenal. It would leave us with money for another CM who could potentially have the press resistance and ability to defend. We have also signed Eriksen who has shown an ability to operate from deep. That is a lot of potential improvement if it occurs for that area of the pitch and something our fans need to be patient enough for our new regime to achieve. One thing is clear to me, despite the high level of talent we have in our squad ( as much as people like to claim the contrary), if we do not have a good midfield, we will not be able to control games, which allows for games like this to happen more regularly than they should.
 
luke511 said:
- Juventus sign Pogba on a free from Utd
- Utd buy Pogba back for £90 million
- Juventus sign Rabiot on a free
- Juventus sign Pogba back on a free whilst utd pay £15 million for Rabiot when he has a year left on his contract :lol:
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I get that, but Pogba is shit, free, but shit.
 
Stockpiling more shite who'll no doubt be on high wages so when we come 7th and want to sell him because the idiots running the show now realise he's shite, we won't be able to shift him, adding to our depth of deadwood nothing players.
 
Mickeza said:
The press really are pushing this mother angle aren’t they?
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Which is risky from an image standpoint when you know the story of Rabiot, his mother and his late father's condition.
 
What to say about this I do not know... It does not sting as bad as Arnautovic.

If we get this guy and he keeps fred and scott out the starting XI i'm all down.
 
tjb said:
People love to talk about panic buys, but the truth is, yesterday ETH learned a few things about the team, squad and league. He has reacted to that new realization and I don't see how that is necessarily a bad thing. He learned that Fred is not as useful as he perhaps thought he could be. He learnt that Mctominay was completely useless. He learnt that Eriksen could operate deeper. He learnt that using a false 9 would not work in the league and adding a third choice striker may be needed. He probably also learnt that starting Malacia may be the right thing to do from now rather than waiting further along the line. There are probably other things he learnt, concerning our centre back partnerships or rotations in the frontline as well.

If he feels from what he has seen, and honestly what most people saw before his move to Juventus, that Rabiot has really good skillsets that haven't been realized by the teams he has been with, then its good to take a punt for that fee. He has good passing ability, is a really good tackler, that may not be the most creative, but has the ability to control and keep hold of the ball. His awareness in midfield has been good enough to dominate teams in different title winning teams.

My hope before the window was that we could get in players who would be able to fill that gap in midfield, especially as it is very important in today's game. If we can get him in for 18m that would be phenomenal. It would leave us with money for another CM who could potentially have the press resistance and ability to defend. We have also signed Eriksen who has shown an ability to operate from deep. That is a lot of potential improvement if it occurs for that area of the pitch and something our fans need to be patient enough for our new regime to achieve. One thing is clear to me, despite the high level of talent we have in our squad ( as much as people like to claim the contrary), if we do not have a good midfield, we will not be able to control games, which allows for games like this to happen more regularly than they should.
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I agree with a lot of what you have said. To be honest, I'm mixed on this one. At PSG, there was a proper player in there. Juventus have been in a similar state to us these past few years, but I think it's been glossed over by the fact it's the Italian league and they still scrape CL football.

I mean, I don't rate either of the Milan teams at all and they have both won the title in the last two seasons, but have done nothing of note in Europe. On this basis, I don't want to judge Rabiot too harshly because if this was 3/4 seasons ago and we were getting him on a free from PSG, then we'd all be buzzing. So I'm not quite sure what has happened and if there's something amiss there.

I don't like the reports of the attitude problems, this is the last thing that we need in the dressing room. On the whole, I am skeptical but am desperate to see Fred and McTominay out of this team. If we can sign a proper midfield pairing, then who knows what ETH can get out of Rabiot?
 
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Lentwood said:
These are points that have been answered to death. Yes, they own the club, so yes, it has now 'come out of their own pockets'. Yes, they have taken dividends, so what? The amount they have taken is a tiny proportion of what we have spent in fees and taking dividends is perfectly normal. Yes they plunged the club into a huge amount of debt but everything they did was perfectly legal.

We can not like the Glazers, that's fine. We can question how they have allowed so many incompetent people to run the business, that's fine.

When we start arguing that we haven't spent enough, we look silly and start losing the argument/any sympathy we might have
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Give it a rest.

You can absolutely criticise their spending and taking of dividends without 'losing the argument'. On the other hand I'm not sure you can spend your free time defending our disastrous owners without losing your sanity, or at least succumbing to a strange Stockholm syndrome.
 
pocco said:
Perhaps he's been stifled by Allegri? His football bores me to tears, I do wonder if he might have made certain demands of Rabiot because I don't understand how that player has gone at 27.
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except those clips you see of him at psg are his highlights. He was always prone to disappear, that’s the problem with him and why he has never lived up to his hype.

he has never truly been consistent. It’s a massive gamble, let’s hope it pays off, if it doesn’t we are going to be talking about more deadwood on high wages we can’t shift. If he doesn’t work out his mother will ensure EtH is the one who takes the blame.
 
He looks like Zevrev playing football rather than tennis.
this thread rockets Up so quickly, can anyone teach me why it’s an debatable transfer? He has real issues in attitude or character? Bad fit in playing style? Problematic in- and/or off-pitch behaviors? Passed his peak? Wages too high? Or something else?
From the video, he seems very good match for what ETH seeks.
 
I can stomach this deal as long as he is signed along with a FDJ or SMS. Not him alone. That would be absolutely pointless.
 
Absolute desperation. I won't accept him being "better" than McFred as a positive, there aren't many midfielders on planet earth who aren't better than McFred. Fred and McTominay are terrible, Rabiot is one rung above but he is still very much bang average. A desperate, uninspiring, cop out of a signing which reeks of Glazernomics and last minute trolley dash. Fellaini mk 2 but without the aerial threat. No thanks.
 
Berbaclass said:
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Yes, that's really the kind of quality that he's shown so far in his carreer.

In my view Eriksen is eventually going to end up in one of the McFred positions. I see Rabiot as a potential player on one of these positions as well. However a combination with Eriksen really seems crazy to me. I can't see Rabiot-Eriksen and then Bruno at #10 at all. From that perspective I don't see it at all. I don't think Rabiot is much better than Fred, if at all.
 
Lentwood said:
These are points that have been answered to death. Yes, they own the club, so yes, it has now 'come out of their own pockets'. Yes, they have taken dividends, so what? The amount they have taken is a tiny proportion of what we have spent in fees and taking dividends is perfectly normal. Yes they plunged the club into a huge amount of debt but everything they did was perfectly legal.

We can not like the Glazers, that's fine. We can question how they have allowed so many incompetent people to run the business, that's fine.

When we start arguing that we haven't spent enough, we look silly and start losing the argument/any sympathy we might have
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If the dividends are a tiny proportion of transfer fees try adding on all the money they've taken out of the club to finance a loan mainly just paying the interest on it. All together they've taken out over £1.5b
 
If we're going to panic buy I'd rather we spunk it all on the likes of Neves and Tielemans.

This is a shocking transfer, we'd be compounding the number of players we'd struggle to shift, not to mention adding more toxic personalities to an already overflowing snakepit. Club have well and truly lost it.
 
Genuinely intrigued why Juve made him the second highest paid player in Serie A - only behind Ronaldo - when they bought him. I was under the impression he was pretty underwhelming even at that point?
 
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