Fees is pretty standard tbh. 15 million gets you nothing these days
Adrien Rabiot | signs 1 year deal at Juventus. See you all next year
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Another Juve fan confirming what most people who watch him already knew. There is no way of spinning this transfer into a positive for us.
Potentially, yes
I am sure he might have been one of the names they said were being kept warm. But I believe bid happened after the game along with de Jong far more unlilely now
No, it's my way to say that we both agree on the idea that the timing is bad. I don't think that it's a panic buy because I think that it was planned and has nothing to do with yesterday's game.
Yes but the stats should actually back up the player being good, not just going off this "eye test" hullabaloo which is often a cover for whatever biases or random opinion the viewer has. You find a player, scout him, of course that's key and then stats should be a indicator. Or in reverse, the stats say this is a player to watch.
I've yet to see a Liverpool, City midfielder with appalling metrics. It just doesn't happen. One, because their sides are dominant. And two because they're bloody good players. But how do you get to being a dominant side? Well..you sign bloody good players to begin with or those with the potential to be, that show stand out metrics. You don't sign those that appear hapless and then expect them to show something else.
From what I've seen he's a classy player. I think he'll improve us...
Seems like we could of got this done well before the game. So of there was a plan and he was in it, why now after the season started?
That shouldn't be the standard, just handing more big, long-term contracts to 2nd rate players because they're slightly better than what we have.
Fair enough. We'll have to agree to disagree then.
Anyway, what do actually think of Rabiot as a player? Would he suit the single pivot role that ten Hag has been playing Fred in - both on and off the ball?
That point is interesting because people are sharing his worst season's stat as an indication of what the player is overall, they even try to extrapolate them to previous seasons that had far different passing stats.
No, I'm sure we had this all properly planned months back.
And it just happens to have come out the day after a horrific loss.
Shopping at Aldi again instead of Harrods but let’s give the lad a chance inthe vain hope he will actually improve the team. Let’s face it, it couldn’t be worse. I just worry about red cards for this bloke and Martinez doesn’t take any prisoners so the crafty players out there, the Grealish and Sterling’s of this world will be falling over big time when they play us.
Rabiot as one of two midfielders is fine. He's better than what we have. But if he's our only midfielder coming in it's basically pointless.
Have we decided to become a Championship club? Is that our plan to avoid being pumped by City, Liverpool and Brighton every year?
I’m pretty sure one of the big reasons he left PSG was because he didn’t want to play as DM. Apparently he sees himself as box to box.
Because we haven't been interested in, monitered, thought of a bid, considered a bid, discussed a bid or sent our 3 musketeers earlier
Waking up to Rabiot and Arnautovic links had me thinking it was 2017 again
Partially true . Liverpool captain Henderson was going to be sold and one of the most hated players at the club before Klopp turned it around for him. Good systems bring out the best of players
Any idea why he was so poor for Juve last year? The season before that his stats are normal.
https://fbref.com/en/players/8794e251/scout/11222/Adrien-Rabiot-Scouting-Report
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https://fbref.com/en/players/8794e251/scout/10730/Adrien-Rabiot-Scouting-Report
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PSG years where he was straight up good:
https://fbref.com/en/players/8794e251/scout/2104/Adrien-Rabiot-Scouting-Report
I'm not at all knowledgeable about Rabiot but I will say it's completely mundane to simply look at Rabiot's FBREF profile, notice that the numbers aren't as high as McTominay's, and conclude that he's not worth signing as he's not even an upgrade on what we currently have.
What I'd be curious to learn is how good Rabiot is at things that were lacking with Fred and McTominay yesterday. How does he restrict his opponent's options? How does he handle playing on the half turn? Is he capable of playing a pass quickly or does he frequently require multiple touches before releasing the ball?
The above are all qualities that Fred and McTominay failed to provide yesterday and they are essential to a midfield looking to successfully implement Ten Hag's playing style. I don't know that Rabiot provides them but they're not something you can discover just by looking at a player's FBREF page.
What I'd be curious to learn is how good Rabiot is at things that were lacking with Fred and McTominay yesterday. How does he restrict his opponent's options? How does he handle playing on the half turn? Is he capable of playing a pass quickly or does he frequently require multiple touches before releasing the ball?
The above are all qualities that Fred and McTominay failed to provide yesterday and they are essential to a midfield looking to successfully implement Ten Hag's playing style. I don't know that Rabiot provides them but they're not something you can discover just by looking at a player's FBREF page.
How toxic is his mum/agent really? Is it exaggerated by the media or is she going to be piping up every so often causing problems? The last thing we need is more toxicity and drama, especially when the player isn't great enough to warrant putting up with it.
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Rather we go for Fabian Ruiz
Only me who thinks he's here as an upgrade on Mctominay?
Fred will drop out to Eriksen in a deep role and then hopefully De Jong
yeah but not to appease fans!
Jesus Christ, this is fecking grim.
Have to say, I didn't think he'd been such a permanent fixture in Juve side, as well as 18 appearances for france over the past 2 years. Decent age, good injury record, an upgrade on mctominay - this could be an astute signing - but desperately needs to be 1 of 2 midfielders or it won't change much.
No he does not. He even complained at PSG when Emery wanted to play him in that position, hence why we ended up with Lo Celso as a DM against Real Madrid. He's also totally average under pressure.
Why not get Icardi and then we have the two troublesome women and a cf with racism issues
ETH to Rabiot - "I like you, but as a Fred"
So Juve fans don't like him, PSG fans don't like him. What evidence is there to suggest he'll suddenly make the significant step up to English football?
I'd take Smudge back or even Djemba X 2 rather than seeing McTominay play again.
So I'm welcoming Rabiot.
So I'm welcoming Rabiot.
I wish that I could bring it brighter, but he has been the negative note on our midfield in the past two years. His first year was okayish, but he missed a big part of it and started playing during the strange covid era. His fitness levels probably were better than most of his opponents
Reading through @JPRouve 's opinions on him at least has eased my concerns a bit. Decent all round DM who is good as a DM and would give us a lot more solidity in midfield and have us lose the ball less frequently. Why not then.
Midfield of Eriksen, Rabiot and Fred, would it work?
Midfield of Eriksen, Rabiot and Fred, would it work?
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