Ah thats good to hear, you got a link to that by any chance?
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Ah thats good to hear, you got a link to that by any chance?
Yep. I was delighted with Wilson coming on as well but given the way Januzaj has been playing in the U21's he probably deserves a few more minutes.
Here you go... It doesn't draw many conclusions but left me thinking positively about the whole thing.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...ut-he-will-grow-impatient-in-the-shadows.html
Playing 1 game a week is the main reason Januzaj is seeing less game time this season.
But give LVG a break! he has an entire new back line to gel together, on top of taking a team that finish 7th back into the top 4.
It won't do Januzaj any harm watching from the bench for a few months.
But give LVG a break! he has an entire new back line to gel together, on top of taking a team that finish 7th back into the top 4.
It won't do Januzaj any harm watching from the bench for a few months.
Thats been the line since January. He doesn't need to be coddled, he needs to be unleashed.
We either let him do that for us or we will have a major regret on our hands when he does it for another team down the road. There is no question whatsoever that he'll be an elite player.
If he rates Januzaj that much it's a bit strange that we're watching RVP drag his tired ass around the pitch for 90 mins every week while he sits on the bench. It's frustrating and must be pretty disincentivising for Januzaj
Agreed, it would frustrate anyone.
There is a danger that once Januzaj does get a chance he might end up trying to do too much ala QPR in order to impress Van Gaal.
Maybe I'm over thinking this whole thing but it just seems a bit odd that a coach who is famous for giving youth a chance is overlooking Januzaj so much. I would have thought he would take great pleasure from developing a player with so much obvious talent and potential. Hopefully there isn't some underlying issue here because I love watching the boy play and it would be a crime if he ended up playing elsewhere.
Developing a player doesn't mean playing him, Van Gaal didn't played Alaba a lot in his first season, he trained him and then send him on loan at Hoffenheim.
Van Gaal probably thinks that Januzaj isn't ready to do what he wants him to do and therefore is careful.
This formation limits his oppurtunities more than a 4-3-3 or a 3-5-2 even.
And LVG seems to have given special privileges to RVP.
And LVG seems to have given special privileges to RVP.
LVG gets away with a lot on here due to his reputation. I hope you're right. I don't see how sitting on the bench for the last 10 months would benefit any player.
As soon as we go 4-3-3 he's in the team for good, sadly though it'll probably take a RvP injury for it to happen..
He sits 90mns but trains all the week, the training is more important. I selfishly want to see Januzaj play but i also think that he is not ready.
His game is immature and he doesn't compensate with tactical nous. And it's the same with Pereira or Pearson.
I think that we are forgetting that he is 19, rare are the players ready at that age. Shaw, Sterling or Marquinhos are exceptions.
That's fu*cking rubbish to be totally honest. He needs to play. He's been ready for over a year.
His game is far from immature. Last season his decision making was excellent. He had a great understanding of what was going on around him and played for the benefit of the team.
Any recent immaturity in his game comes from trying too hard to prove himself to a manager that has shown little interest in giving him a chance. Also the fact that you group him in with someone like Pearson makes me wonder if you have a clue what you're talking about.
Like i said LVG has bigger issues to fix first...getting the defensive balance right in the team and getting United back into Europe.
I wasn't suggesting LVG was making Januzaj watch from the bench as part of a master plan for his development. To put it into perspective Januzaj is behind Rooney, Mata, RVP and Falcao! most managers in the same position wouldn't have Januzaj in the team either.
Fat chance it's going to happen, but I'd love to see him given a start upfront alongside Falcao in one of the next two games with Rooney out. He can drift into the channels so that Falcao can play solely through the middle, rather than trying to fit two No.9's into the team. He was devastating for the reserves the other week in this role with Will Keane through the middle.
I think Van Gaal is experienced enough to know when the time is right to bring him on. Not the end of the world if young Adnan misses a game or two - he needs to play, but not at the expense of the greater good of the team.
At the and of last season and during the World Cup/Summer it seemed like Januzaj was getting a bit over confident and acting like he was better then he actually was. Maybe LVG is bringing him back down to earth, it's important at that age to be grounded and to keep working hard. And if that is the case then LVG will have recognised this and made some decisions based on whats good for hes overall development. And to be honest it is a great test of character, and it seems like Adnan has taken it in hes stride and giving every game he's all, even in the U21's. Great to see.
I dont think he should be starting ahead of any of our front 3-4 at the moment anyway, but he should definitely be getting some more appearances off the bench when others are not performing. It will be interesting to see how this pans out, he is still only young so there is plenty of time for him to make hes mark.
Such an exciting player to watch, really looking forward to seeing him play again in the future.
I dont think he should be starting ahead of any of our front 3-4 at the moment anyway, but he should definitely be getting some more appearances off the bench when others are not performing. It will be interesting to see how this pans out, he is still only young so there is plenty of time for him to make hes mark.
Such an exciting player to watch, really looking forward to seeing him play again in the future.
I never said that he didn't need to play, i said that training was where you improve yourself.
And about his game i think that he is immature, his positioning and decision making isn't great.
He needs to play, i want him to play but i can understand why he can't play, when he is our 5th best striker and 3rd best #10.
And i talked about Pearson because at the moment we lack CM, and he could be an option but he isn't ready, i'm not comparing the players but the situations.
I'd argue that not trying to play two centre forwards front of a number ten would in itself be a step towards getting the defensive balance right. Januazj for RVP and we'd be a bit more solid imo. Also I don't think we have to secure european football before worrying about developing players like Januzaj. I would have thought the process works the other way around.
Playing 2 forwards and a no.10 might well be overkill so that is a very sensible point.
But as a basic idea, i'd put my faith in Falcao/RVP rather than a Januzaj at this very moment! It is still early in the season and LVG has changed soo much in a short space of time. So for now at least i believe points on the board are more important than worrying about Januzaj.
Hopefully United can lift the FA Cup this year and in doing so give the likes of Januzaj and Wilson game time along the way.
Definitely deserves a chance next week to start and prove himself in Rooneys absence as Mata didn't exactly do too much to stake a claim to be a regular starter today.
And when Rooney returns i think it maybe needs to be RVP to sit out for a bit, he looks like hes needed a rest for weeks now, have Rooney and Falcao up front with Mata or Januzaj in behind.
And when Rooney returns i think it maybe needs to be RVP to sit out for a bit, he looks like hes needed a rest for weeks now, have Rooney and Falcao up front with Mata or Januzaj in behind.
Playing him at the tip of the diamond would make us an even bigger threat in attack.
It's frustrating that he isn't getting any decent game time. Especially when Mata and RvP continue to put in average or poor performances.
I reckon LVG is keeping januzaj's head in check. He's been very selfish in his play when he's come on this season, probably thinking he's Cristiano Ronaldo after last season.
I think the world cup experience kinda set him back a little. He probably thought he was already good enough to start in any team. He kinda expoded last season but faded towards the end. He needs to find his form again before he can be given regular first team starts. But with us out of League Cup and not in Europe, it's not an easy thing to do (i.e giving him minutes to help him find form).
He's obviously not going to start at the moment, not only are there better players in the positions he can take up, but the amount of games means that nobody needs to be rested and the first XI needs more time to gel.
Also have to say, he probably would of made it on in certain games if we had a more comfortable time. West Ham and Everton both had us pegged back for the last 20 minutes. Januzaj is not someone who is going to stop that.
Come January he'll get more game time due to the FA Cup and this friendly's we apparently want to play.
Also have to say, he probably would of made it on in certain games if we had a more comfortable time. West Ham and Everton both had us pegged back for the last 20 minutes. Januzaj is not someone who is going to stop that.
Come January he'll get more game time due to the FA Cup and this friendly's we apparently want to play.
But the opposite is actually what's happening because the team is unbalanced and only Di Maria provides us with a threat on the break. With Januzaj that wouldn't be the case at all. Atm I'm starting to suspect that LVG will say anything to avoid dropping RVP, something that ought to have happened weeks ago.
Most likely because he thinks the only way he can get playing time is to have goals. He's on the outside looking in and this lack of playing time is affecting his decision making.
Thats my take on the situation as well.
Kind of a luxury problem, but unfortantly, i don't see Januzaj getting many chances this season with all the new additions to our squad. The only viable solution imo is to play him wide in a 433, but that means (again) that either Mata, Rooney and/or RvP has to be dropped.
ADM----Falcao----Januzaj
----Rooney/Mata--------
--Herrera-----Blind-----
Could make a case for ADM taking Herrera or Blind's spot to fit in RvP, but that makes for a terribly unbalanced midfield. Maybe a loan would do him good?
ADM----Falcao----Januzaj
----Rooney/Mata--------
--Herrera-----Blind-----
Could make a case for ADM taking Herrera or Blind's spot to fit in RvP, but that makes for a terribly unbalanced midfield. Maybe a loan would do him good?
You're probably right. There's no way RvP will be dropped for Januzaj and rightfully so (imo).
I'd like to see him play instead of Mata or RvP against WBA but very unlikely to happen, especially with RvP
I'd like to say I'd put him in for Di Maria for the West Brom game, but seeing as we're not in Europe, there's really no need to rest our players, especially now that we're starting to click as a team. We need to keep our momentum going.
He needs to trust LvG and stay calm,he can achieve so many things in the future as United player if he just stay calm and train hard.Hope he is smart enough for both parties sake.Dont take me wrong i enjoy watching him play but i rather have this season where Januzaj is great talent who grows then last where he plays a lot more looking like only bright spark in the team.
Di Maria is actually going to be doing a lot of long distance travelling during the INT break, so you never know. Mind you I hope he doesn't as that will screw my fantasy team!
True. That said, from looking at Argentina's fixtures, they have Hong Kong on the 14th Oct, (which I hope he doesn't play in) which will surely give him enough time to be ready for the game on the 20th vs West Brom.
I guess one could argue that looking at the past/history gives a good indication for the future. In LvG's first season at Bayern, they won the double and made it to a Champions League final. Van Bommel was Van Gaals captain, helped him in the dressing room and they seemed very close. Van Bommel did excellent that season and had a brilliant World Cup after that, got a lot of praise from Van Gaal.
Second season, Van Bommel didn't perform as well at the start, Van Gaal started dropping him after two months or so. Van Bommel thought he deserved more credit and got mad, he switched to Mino Raiola and moved to AC Milan in the winter, since then LvG became his public enemy #1. My point being, Louis van Gaal doesn't keep players on the pitch for no reason, and he doesn't really favour certain players over others. If dropping RVP would've been the right thing to do, he would've done it already or he will do it as soon is he thinks it is necessery. So there's no need to be suspicious.
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