Adam Johnson found guilty of one count of sexual activity with a child | Sentenced to six years

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seems quite harsh compared to, say, Jeremy Forrest & the Eastbourne schoolgirl

Judge not appreciating the 'this is a bit boring' comment or thinks AJ is a complete ratbag <--- if you catch my drift
 
Now that he's been sentenced, could someone explain to me why Johnson gets 6 years but Caroline Berriman (a teaching assistant who groomed and had sex with a 15 year old over 50 times) got away without a prison sentence? I'm not defending a Johnson in any way btw, just trying of understand why there is such a difference in the sentence.
She did actually get her suspended sentence over turned and was given a 2 year sentence behind bars. I agree though regarding the difference in sentence and how a female grooming a male seems to be treated far more leniently.
 
Now that he's been sentenced, could someone explain to me why Johnson gets 6 years but Caroline Berriman (a teaching assistant who groomed and had sex with a 15 year old over 50 times) got away without a prison sentence? I'm not defending a Johnson in any way btw, just trying of understand why there is such a difference in the sentence.

Law perceives more enthusiastic 'consenting' is going on I would imagine - physiology innit, Brian?
 
She did actually get her suspended sentence over turned and was given a 2 year sentence behind bars. I agree though regarding the difference in sentence and how a female grooming a male seems to be treated far more leniently.
I suppose there's some justice there, still lenient though.
 
seems quite harsh compared to, say, Jeremy Forrest & the Eastbourne schoolgirl

Judge not appreciating the 'this is a bit boring' comment or thinks AJ is a complete ratbag <--- if you catch my drift
There are so many factors in these things. It's a lot more complex than just the offender's age and the victim's. Certainly Johnson's lack of remorse would've counted against him, as it diminishes any argument that he would not continue to be a threat.
 
Wasn't it just a kiss?

I know someone who got locked up for manslaughter, seven years, three suspended. This sentence seems a bit harsh.
 
Apparently he lost his England caps too, which I don't really understand. The guy is a monster but you can't just unperson him and pretend he never played for the national team.
 
There are so many factors in these things. It's a lot more complex than just the offender's age and the victim's. Certainly Johnson's lack of remorse would've counted against him, as it diminishes any argument that he would not continue to be a threat.

Yes, I'm sure you are right. But to continue with the (my) distasteful dissection of this, the 'lesser sexual activity' doesn't help him mitigate the appaling grooming-ness - makes it worse in a way. Oh well... jolly bad luck, never mind.
 
Now that he's been sentenced, could someone explain to me why Johnson gets 6 years but Caroline Berriman (a teaching assistant who groomed and had sex with a 15 year old over 50 times) got away without a prison sentence? I'm not defending a Johnson in any way btw, just trying of understand why there is such a difference in the sentence.

Because he's a man. There's a social view that men are predators and little girls are victims but little boys aren't. There are a few cases where nothing happens when a young lad messes around with an older woman.
 
Apparently he lost his England caps too, which I don't really understand. The guy is a monster but you can't just unperson him and pretend he never played for the national team.
No England won those games with 10 men. There is no Adam Johnson
 
What about Sunderland who fielded the player knowing full well what was going on? Not a damn thing apparently
 
Apparently he lost his England caps too, which I don't really understand. The guy is a monster but you can't just unperson him and pretend he never played for the national team.
They do that? Seems pointless to me, what's the point of pretending he never played for England.

Also the scumbag deserves what he got.
 
Stripped of his England caps which I find hilarious.

I'm sure the FA think they're being very honourable by doing it but to me it just seems like they're putting their fingers in their ears and saying "lalalala he never played for us lalalala."
 
When he gets out, he has served his sentence and paid for his crime.
Does he get his caps back?
 
Apparently he lost his England caps too, which I don't really understand. The guy is a monster but you can't just unperson him and pretend he never played for the national team.

We should do the same with LVG to be fair, pretend he never existed.

As for Jonhson, feck off Adam, well deserved.
 
Of course it's harsh.

Whether it is fair is debatable in my opinion.

This is playing to the mob.

We are in a different era where there is zero room for mitigation and zero tolerance of any less than branding him a paedo.

He has well and truly been made an example of.
 
Stripping him off his England caps seems like overkill to me.
 
Of course it's harsh.

Whether it is fair is debatable in my opinion.

This is playing to the mob.

We are in a different era where there is zero room for mitigation and zero tolerance of any less than branding him a paedo.

He has well and truly been made an example of.
Not really. It's just a pretty extreme case. Your average case of some twenty something having sexual contact with a 15 year old wouldn't be treated as harshly, as your average case doesn't have this level of grooming, abuse of power, lack of remorse, lying in court, harm to the victim.
They've probably taken all the medals and cups England has won recently. lol
Slightly weird time to make that point...
 
What that means really? "losing his caps"?

I mean, aren't those just appearances, factual data when he played?
They give players actual caps, or used to anyway. Don't know if they only do it for landmark appearances now or not.

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Of course it's harsh.

Whether it is fair is debatable in my opinion.

This is playing to the mob.

We are in a different era where there is zero room for mitigation and zero tolerance of any less than branding him a paedo.

He has well and truly been made an example of.

welcome to paedogeddon.
 
Heh, weird but nice to know about the literallity of 'caps'. Have a feeling what was meant by stripping was not about them though.

Sir Bobby, collector or hoarder? :nervous:
 
Just googled it, England give a cap for every senior game, except tournaments, where they get one cap for the entire competition, apparently for Beckhams 100th game, he actually got his 85th physical cap because of the World Cup and Euro appearances.
 
6 years seems very harsh for statutory rape. The guy broke the law and should be punished, there is no doubt about that. But people get 7-8 years on average for manslaughter.
 
Stripping him off his England caps seems like overkill to me.

Can't imagine he'll be that fussed about that tbh, not seeing his daughter for 6 years is the biggest punishment

Massively harsh imo
 
What about Sunderland who fielded the player knowing full well what was going on? Not a damn thing apparently
What about them? Your employer cannot sack you simply as you're facing charges in court. There has to be a guilty verdict first. And as far as I know they didn't have full knowledge of what happened, just a version of some of the truth.
 
Wait, people didn't know they actually gave caps out?

I think the question was more about what they are actually rescinding. Do they wipe his name off all the records or?
 
6 years seems very harsh for statutory rape. The guy broke the law and should be punished, there is no doubt about that. But people get 7-8 years on average for manslaughter.

Rape? Might be an idea to read about it before you post.
 
What about them? Your employer cannot sack you simply as you're facing charges in court. There has to be a guilty verdict first. And as far as I know they didn't have full knowledge of what happened, just a version of some of the truth.
Though they evidently could, and did, suspend him... only to later relieve the suspension in a way that looks awfully like a footballing decision rather than a legal/moral one.
 
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