A serious look at Mauricio Pochettino

Enigma_87 said:
Every club wanting to win the title doesn't make it very probable does it? Having better players is subjective and even having better players doesn't reflect always in the table every season.

Apart from 2 top 3 finishes your record in domestic cups and Europe is still poor. That doesn't make you a top club yet. Newcastle were making top 4 finishes 15 years ago(a big stadium to boot as well) and where are they now?

By top club I always mean one that competes for titles not top 4 finish. Chelsea, City, United, Liverpool, Arsenal - all have more of a claim to win the title based on historic evidence than Spurs.

United finished above you in the table last season, what that really proves? Fastforward next Summer. United with a new manager and new 100-200m net to spend for new players, who will have more chance to win the title - Spurs or United?
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No offense but what does this mean? The clubs you mention are in a better financial situation to compete in the transfer market to a bigger or smaller degree. The history that matter is the experience that remain at the club, not what others that have no ties to the club anymore did in the past.

Not that it matters, but it's 3 top 3 finishes in the last 3 years. I think we deserve some more respect (three fingers in the air).
 
Enigma_87 said:
Every club wanting to win the title doesn't make it very probable does it? Having better players is subjective and even having better players doesn't reflect always in the table every season.

Apart from 2 top 3 finishes your record in domestic cups and Europe is still poor. That doesn't make you a top club yet. Newcastle were making top 4 finishes 15 years ago(a big stadium to boot as well) and where are they now?

By top club I always mean one that competes for titles not top 4 finish. Chelsea, City, United, Liverpool, Arsenal - all have more of a claim to win the title based on historic evidence than Spurs.

United finished above you in the table last season, what that really proves? Fastforward next Summer. United with a new manager and new 100-200m net to spend for new players, who will have more chance to win the title - Spurs or United?
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Actually it's 3 top three finishes in recent seasons and might well be a 4th this time around.

I notice the change of tense in your 2nd paragraph. It begins by talking about "competes" (present tense) and ends by referring to "historic evidence" (the past). So your definition of "top club" - and your implied exclusion of Spurs from that category in the present day - is conveniently flexible

Who will have the better chance to win the title next season? It depends a lot on who your next "permanent" manager is (bearing in mind that you've sacked three in the last 5 years) and how good their approach to transfers is. Right now I'd say Spurs have the better chance compared to United.
 
hellohello said:
No offense but what does this mean? The clubs you mention are in a better financial situation to compete in the transfer market to a bigger or smaller degree. The history that matter is the experience that remain at the club, not what others that have no ties to the club anymore did in the past.

Not that it matters, but it's 3 top 3 finishes in the last 3 years. I think we deserve some more respect (three fingers in the air).
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As you mentioned the clubs are in better financial situation, more likely to compete and attract the top players and pay top wages. Historically they are also well known and have won titles on much regular basis compared to Spurs - and are more likely to do so.

GlastonSpur said:
Actually it's 3 top three finishes in recent seasons and might well be a 4th this time around.

I notice the change of tense in your 2nd paragraph. It begins by talking about "competes" (present tense) and ends by referring to "historic evidence" (the past). So your definition of "top club" - and your implied exclusion of Spurs from that category in the present day - is conveniently flexible

Who will have the better chance to win the title next season? It depends a lot on who your next "permanent" manager is (bearing in mind that you've sacked three in the last 5 years) and how good their approach to transfers is. Right now I'd say Spurs have the better chance compared to United.
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Even if it is 5 top three finishes that guarantees you nothing in terms of mounting a title challenge. You are over complicating it by trying to analyze every word.

You aren't a top club yet because you haven't won anything worth of note in the last 30-40 years. Past tense, present tense whatever you like the biggest measurement is, and always has been - trophies.

Correct me if I'm wrong but why the bookies put you on par with Arsenal before the season started in the title odds and behind United, Chelsea, Liverpool and City? We still underachieved yet always more likely to win it than Spurs?
 
Enigma_87 said:
As you mentioned the clubs are in better financial situation, more likely to compete and attract the top players and pay top wages. Historically they are also well known and have won titles on much regular basis compared to Spurs - and are more likely to do so.
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You present it as an unbridgeable gap between Spurs and the other 5 teams in the current top 6. It only sounds as if you want to put spurs in their place and ignore any reasons Spurs fans have to be positive. Tottenham is not in a bad situation right now, both on and off the pitch, and Spurs is a big team, I think 11th richest club in Europe financially. There are plenty of reasons Pochettino may want to stay and enjoy his untouchable status with full control of footballing decisions with increased financial freedom which will come.
 
hellohello said:
You present it as an unbridgeable gap between Spurs and the other 5 teams in the current top 6. It only sounds as if you want to put spurs in their place and ignore any reasons Spurs fans have to be positive. Tottenham is not in a bad situation right now, both on and off the pitch, and Spurs is a big team, I think 11th richest club in Europe financially. There are plenty of reasons Pochettino may want to stay and enjoy his untouchable status with full control of footballing decisions with increased financial freedom which will come.
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It's far from unbridgeable gap mate. To me you have one of the best teams in the league and play coherent football. Even if Poch leaves that doesn't mean that you will turn into relegation candidates. There are possible candidates that would make the transition (if he does leave) seamless.

It's a well ran club at the moment, but if you (and by you I mean Levy) want to mount a serious title challenge and also make deep runs in the cups you need to spend in order to compete both in terms of wages and transfer sums.
 
I like the Spurs fans on here and they're a great bunch but, really, it's over for them now. Pochettino is ours.
Alderweireld too
 
There is no way Pochettino says no to United in favour of Spurs.

Spurs will be an Europa League position team again very soon. They're lucky to have retained a terrific manager, some world class players. Their run is going to end - they don't have the drawing power to replace this level of quality.
 
Poch needs to be careful of alienating the Spurs fan base. We might end up seeing him as a leading contender at this stage and then by end of the season - someone else makes a really strong case to take the job whether it is OGS or someone else in charge of a current CL club. Then he will be left in middle of nowhere if we didn’t go for him.
 
SilentWitness said:
Everytime I open this thread i'm always disappointed when I don't see a photo or video of someone looking seriously at Mauricio Pochettino.
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You can say I've never got you nice things for Christmas.
 
Hi guys, Ive been supporting Spurs for nearly sixty years, and had the fortune to see one of the greatest Man Utd players ever play, George Best, remember him at WHL with four Spurs defenders around him, and he left them for dead,
So good was his skill, I have a lot of respect for Man Utd and what your club has achieved, on Poch to Utd, im sorry but a lot of your fans need to take a reality check.
The days when Man Utd clicked their fingers and Spurs players would jump into a cab and head for Old Trafford are long gone.
Man Utd bigger club, more money, etc etc.. three failed managers, players given up, boss's clueless.
Spurs on the up, best stadium in World football, which will double the revenue allowing better players, higher wages etc etc.
Poch turned down Real, he will turn you down to, on a lighter note, Sol Campbell has more chance of becoming the next Spurs manager then Poch managing Utd.
 
andreas pippias said:
Hi guys, Ive been supporting Spurs for nearly sixty years, and had the fortune to see one of the greatest Man Utd players ever play, George Best, remember him at WHL with four Spurs defenders around him, and he left them for dead,
So good was his skill, I have a lot of respect for Man Utd and what your club has achieved, on Poch to Utd, im sorry but a lot of your fans need to take a reality check.
The days when Man Utd clicked their fingers and Spurs players would jump into a cab and head for Old Trafford are long gone.
Man Utd bigger club, more money, etc etc.. three failed managers, players given up, boss's clueless.
Spurs on the up, best stadium in World football, which will double the revenue allowing better players, higher wages etc etc.
Poch turned down Real, he will turn you down to, on a lighter note, Sol Campbell has more chance of becoming the next Spurs manager then Poch managing Utd.
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We certainly dont have the same pull factor anymore. But to say because of the stadium and because Spurs is "on the up" he wont find it interesting to manage United is a bit premature imo. I believe he could be very interested in the job like most managers would. United is still a huge name, even though it has not been shining much in the past years
 
Rhyme Animal said:
You think Spurs board / Levy wouldn't want an FA Cup...? Or a Europa League? Or even a League Cup?

Winning trophies is fecking important.

Some of the resident Spurs Spammers on here may try and down talk the 'lesser trophies', but trust me, if they were capable of winning one they'd celebrate it gladly.

When managers retire, they want an honours list - no-one cares about finishing Top 4 year in - year out if you're winning nothing.
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I think the board and Levy would want those trophies but top 4 is way more important. Why was LVG sacked literally minutes after winning the FA Cup?
 
andreas pippias said:
Hi guys, Ive been supporting Spurs for nearly sixty years, and had the fortune to see one of the greatest Man Utd players ever play, George Best, remember him at WHL with four Spurs defenders around him, and he left them for dead,
So good was his skill, I have a lot of respect for Man Utd and what your club has achieved, on Poch to Utd, im sorry but a lot of your fans need to take a reality check.
The days when Man Utd clicked their fingers and Spurs players would jump into a cab and head for Old Trafford are long gone.
Man Utd bigger club, more money, etc etc.. three failed managers, players given up, boss's clueless.
Spurs on the up, best stadium in World football, which will double the revenue allowing better players, higher wages etc etc.
Poch turned down Real, he will turn you down to, on a lighter note, Sol Campbell has more chance of becoming the next Spurs manager then Poch managing Utd.
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Glaston had a son?
 
andreas pippias said:
Hi guys, Ive been supporting Spurs for nearly sixty years, and had the fortune to see one of the greatest Man Utd players ever play, George Best, remember him at WHL with four Spurs defenders around him, and he left them for dead,
So good was his skill, I have a lot of respect for Man Utd and what your club has achieved, on Poch to Utd, im sorry but a lot of your fans need to take a reality check.
The days when Man Utd clicked their fingers and Spurs players would jump into a cab and head for Old Trafford are long gone.
Man Utd bigger club, more money, etc etc.. three failed managers, players given up, boss's clueless.
Spurs on the up, best stadium in World football, which will double the revenue allowing better players, higher wages etc etc.
Poch turned down Real, he will turn you down to, on a lighter note, Sol Campbell has more chance of becoming the next Spurs manager then Poch managing Utd.
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At the moment there are roof leaks in the incomplete "best stadium in the world".

How is the revenue supposed to "double" with this stadium?

Spurs fan on here don't talk half shit.
 
andreas pippias said:
Hi guys, Ive been supporting Spurs for nearly sixty years, and had the fortune to see one of the greatest Man Utd players ever play, George Best, remember him at WHL with four Spurs defenders around him, and he left them for dead,
So good was his skill, I have a lot of respect for Man Utd and what your club has achieved, on Poch to Utd, im sorry but a lot of your fans need to take a reality check.
The days when Man Utd clicked their fingers and Spurs players would jump into a cab and head for Old Trafford are long gone.
Man Utd bigger club, more money, etc etc.. three failed managers, players given up, boss's clueless.
Spurs on the up, best stadium in World football, which will double the revenue allowing better players, higher wages etc etc.
Poch turned down Real, he will turn you down to, on a lighter note, Sol Campbell has more chance of becoming the next Spurs manager then Poch managing Utd.
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@GlastonSpur in 'creates new account' shocker

Brilliant name by the way - andreas pippias :lol::lol:
 
zing said:
There is no way Pochettino says no to United in favour of Spurs.

Spurs will be an Europa League position team again very soon. They're lucky to have retained a terrific manager, some world class players. Their run is going to end - they don't have the drawing power to replace this level of quality.
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Likely not as soon as United, who are nailed on to be playing EL football next season.

As for United's drawing power, I reckon you'll be drawn against Ludogrets Razgrad at some point.
 
GlastonSpur said:
Likely not as soon as United, who are nailed on to be playing EL football next season.

As for United's drawing power, I reckon you'll be drawn against Ludogrets Razgrad at some point.
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Atleast we will beat them unlike some teams who got eliminated against the likes of Gent(?) at their home.
 
andreas pippias said:
Hi guys, Ive been supporting Spurs for nearly sixty years, and had the fortune to see one of the greatest Man Utd players ever play, George Best, remember him at WHL with four Spurs defenders around him, and he left them for dead,
So good was his skill, I have a lot of respect for Man Utd and what your club has achieved, on Poch to Utd, im sorry but a lot of your fans need to take a reality check.
The days when Man Utd clicked their fingers and Spurs players would jump into a cab and head for Old Trafford are long gone.
Man Utd bigger club, more money, etc etc.. three failed managers, players given up, boss's clueless.
Spurs on the up, best stadium in World football, which will double the revenue allowing better players, higher wages etc etc.
Poch turned down Real, he will turn you down to, on a lighter note, Sol Campbell has more chance of becoming the next Spurs manager then Poch managing Utd.
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Football doesn't work like that though. It wouldn't take much to have Utd return to the elite since that's where we are supposed to be in most peoples eyes.
I don't mean that in a cocky way, put Poch in charge of us and go on a great run from next August to December and we'll be considered a top side again.
That's all it takes. There is no on the up or such shit in football these days.
Four months of football could wipe away years of underachievement.
 
GlastonSpur said:
As for United's drawing power, I reckon you'll be drawn against Ludogrets Razgrad at some point.
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Not a bad team. They do have the same success in Europe as Spurs generally and aren't that easily brushed aside in KO rounds. Is there any decent team that hasn't put 5 past you in KO rounds lately?
 
cyberman said:
Football doesn't work like that though. It wouldn't take much to have Utd return to the elite since that's where we are supposed to be in most peoples eyes.
I don't mean that in a cocky way, put Poch in charge of us and go on a great run from next August to December and we'll be considered a top side again.
That's all it takes. There is no on the up or such shit in football these days.
Four months of football could wipe away years of underachievement.
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It could of course but there are no guarantees of any sort. You had arguably the best manager still working in the game spending £100s of millions and still not be back at the top. I get your happy and optimistic that Jose is gone but there are no gaurantees that whoever the next manager is that things will improve overnight.
 
Had a look over at TFC in the last few minutes. Surprisingly, a sizable portion of their fans expect him to consider it and at least be tempted when/if an offer comes.
Looks like there's a link between those disillusioned with Levy and those that feel he might leave.
 
Adisa said:
Had a look over at TFC in the last few minutes. Surprisingly, a sizable portion of their fans expect him to consider it and at least be tempted when/if an offer comes.
Looks like there's a link between those disillusioned with Levy and those that feel he might leave.
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Of course he would consider it, United is a perfect club for any project manager right now. I just feel that many united fans are very dismissive of any reasons he might want to stay at Spurs.
 
hellohello said:
Of course he would consider it, United is a perfect club for any project manager right now. I just feel that many united fans are very dismissive of any reasons he might want to stay at Spurs.
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You have to ask yourself, how much further can Poch take this current Spurs side given the resources he has to work with?

Spurs are a genuine top four club right now and will remain that way for the foreseeable future with or without Poch (in my opinion), the next step up for them is to win the league outright. If you being absolutely honest with yourself, could you see that happening any time soon?

Before anyone says it, I do not believe the new super stadium project will have any bearing on his decision to stay or leave whatsoever.
 
The Tottenham, that players like Berbatov left to join you isnt the Tottenham of today, I repeat Poch had the opportunity to join Real in the summer, and turned it down, that must of been hard for anyone in World football.

Poch has brought on a bunch of young players, he has top players like Kane/Eriksen/Alli etc, moving into a great stadium, is loved by the fans, he is paid a very good wage, runs the show.

So along come Utd, even a die hard Utd fan would agree your club is in a mess, three failed managers, useless people running the club, etc, forget about buying players, your stuck with Sanchez etc no one will pay their obscene wages.

It's all about timing, and at this time Poch will not join you, and I think your owners deep down know this.
 
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Look it’s as simple as this United fans think it’s a done deal, Tottenham fans don’t think it’s quite as simple as that. Are we really gonna argue it for the second half of the season. I’d say Levy and squad have already had discussions and know what Poch is going to do. The media sure as shit don’t know and either do us as fans, at this moment in time.
 
Adisa said:
Had a look over at TFC in the last few minutes. Surprisingly, a sizable portion of their fans expect him to consider it and at least be tempted when/if an offer comes.
Looks like there's a link between those disillusioned with Levy and those that feel he might leave.
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I don’t know how exactly one here said he wouldn’t consider it? I certainly haven’t, considering it as an option doesn’t mean he will accept it.
 
Random Task said:
You have to ask yourself, how much further can Poch take this current Spurs side given the resources he has to work with?

Spurs are a genuine top four club right now and will remain that way for the foreseeable future with or without Poch (in my opinion), the next step up for them is to win the league outright. If you being absolutely honest with yourself, could you see that happening any time soon?

Before anyone says it, I do not believe the new super stadium project will have any bearing on his decision to stay or leave whatsoever.
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Actually yes I do believe a league win can happen. You forget how difficult it is playing without a home stadium. Would you argue against me if I was to say the Anfield atmosphere plays a big part in Liverpool being very difficult to beat at home? The closest Spurs came to winning the league was two and three seasons ago when they were playing at WHL. In fact, the last season at WHL they didn't lose a single game at home. They are now 3rd and only 5/6 pts behind Liverpool and City despite playing at Wembley this season. Liverpool are currently top of the league, spent a lot of money in the summer, however it was to strengthen positions which Spurs are already strong in, for example CB and GK. It's not like Spurs were in the market for Allison and VVD but lacked the spending power to sign them.

I would say it isn't unrealistic to suggest that Spurs playing back at NWHL will give them at least an extra 5 or 6 points a season, maybe more. To refute that would be to suggest home teams don't find it favourable playing in front of a packed home stadium (which Wembley is certainly not).

Whilst Spurs do need to strengthen, I don't think think we are very far off being able to win the league, and I am sure Poch believes that too. You seem to act like we are miles away, and need to spend 200 million to win the league. We don't. If the referee had given us the rightful penalty in injury time v Liverpool, and Kane had scored an easy chance against City, Spurs would practically be level 1st. That's how fine the margins are, hardly something Poch needs to walk away from to realise his dream of winning a title. In fact, given our position, if we were to go on a long winning from now till Feb/ March, we would very easily find ourselves in touching distance of a league title. Possibly needing to go to City and Anfield and win both, difficult but not impossible.

Furthermore, I notice all the articles fabricating that Poch is keen on United left out his quotes from yesterday which said

"I'm happy here in Tottenham and I have four-and-a-half years left on my contract. I understand you're interested because there are a lot of rumours but look, I'm happy here, trying to give my best to the club."
 
Much as I'd like to see him as United manager, he has to take a long, hard look at our track record since 2013. Three managers hired and fired; the overriding commercial side of the club (not that Spurs won't tread that path); and an overhaul badly needed. The third may be attractive to him but the first two might give him pause for thought.
 
Primativ said:
Actually yes I do believe a league win can happen. You forget how difficult it is playing without a home stadium. Would you argue against me if I was to say the Anfield atmosphere plays a big part in Liverpool being very difficult to beat at home? The closest Spurs came to winning the league was two and three seasons ago when they were playing at WHL. In fact, the last season at WHL they didn't lose a single game at home. They are now 3rd and only 5/6 pts behind Liverpool and City despite playing at Wembley this season. Liverpool are currently top of the league, spent a lot of money in the summer, however it was to strengthen positions which Spurs are already strong in, for example CB and GK. It's not like Spurs were in the market for Allison and VVD but lacked the spending power to sign them.

I would say it isn't unrealistic to suggest that Spurs playing back at NWHL will give them at least an extra 5 or 6 points a season, maybe more. To refute that would be to suggest home teams don't find it favourable playing in front of a packed home stadium (which Wembley is certainly not).

Whilst Spurs do need to strengthen, I don't think think we are very far off being able to win the league, and I am sure Poch believes that too. You seem to act like we are miles away, and need to spend 200 million to win the league. We don't. If the referee had given us the rightful penalty in injury time v Liverpool, and Kane had scored an easy chance against City, Spurs would practically be level 1st. That's how fine the margins are, hardly something Poch needs to walk away from to realise his dream of winning a title. In fact, given our position, if we were to go on a long winning from now till Feb/ March, we would very easily find ourselves in touching distance of a league title. Possibly needing to go to City and Anfield and win both, difficult but not impossible.

Furthermore, I notice all the articles fabricating that Poch is keen on United left out his quotes from yesterday which said

"I'm happy here in Tottenham and I have four-and-a-half years left on my contract. I understand you're interested because there are a lot of rumours but look, I'm happy here, trying to give my best to the club."
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Waits for the *hes only saying what the fans want to hear* argument.
 
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Much as I'd like to see him as United manager, he has to take a long, hard look at our track record since 2013. Three managers hired and fired; the overriding commercial side of the club (not that Spurs won't tread that path); and an overhaul badly needed. The third may be attractive to him but the first two might give him pause for thought.
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If you appoint a director of football it will be very unlikely Poch is your first choice.
 
andreas pippias said:
The Tottenham, that players like Berbatov left to join you isnt the Tottenham of today, I repeat Poch had the opportunity to join Real in the summer, and turned it down, that must of been hard for anyone in World football.

Poch has brought on a bunch of young players, he has top players like Kane/Eriksen/Alli etc, moving into a great stadium, is loved by the fans, he is paid a very good wage, runs the show.

So along come Utd, even a die hard Utd fan would agree your club is in a mess, three failed managers, useless people running the club, etc, forget about buying players, your stuck with Sanchez etc no one will pay their obscene wages.

It's all about timing, and at this time Poch will not join you, and I think your owners deep down know this.
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Any source of that? Never heard it so far that he was their top choice or they have approached him. Lopetegui was announced well before the WC started and since he was sacked Conte has always been their top choice.
 
Random Task said:
You have to ask yourself, how much further can Poch take this current Spurs side given the resources he has to work with?

Spurs are a genuine top four club right now and will remain that way for the foreseeable future with or without Poch (in my opinion), the next step up for them is to win the league outright. If you being absolutely honest with yourself, could you see that happening any time soon?

Before anyone says it, I do not believe the new super stadium project will have any bearing on his decision to stay or leave whatsoever.
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I believe Spurs can win the league, even this season I still view us as challengers. It's a long shot, but far from impossible. It's hard for any club to challenge the money doped City at the moment, but that doesn't mean it's impossible. As a stable top 4 club, with the correct manager and mindset we could win the title one of the next few seasons if things go our way. I fully understand where you're coming from though, and I'm not really disagreeing with you, but yes I think Spurs can improve. Having a home ground will help the team, there are clear parts of the team we can improve upon, and even Pochettino is improving as a manager imo. The worry is keeping Eriksen.

I think Poch may view it as a challenge to win with Spurs, and I think he would enjoy winning with Spurs more than he would at for example PSG or City simply because of the challenge. And Spurs is not a tiny club, we are the 11th wealthiest club in the world iirc, and he will be able to bring in top players. Our spending power will improve, although it will still be lower than all other top 6 clubs for the foreseeable future.

I don't mean to sound overly optimistic, and I fully understand arguments for why he might leave and why this is as good as it gets. I just believe it could also go the other way, and in general don't see any acknowledgement of that.
 
The idea we can buy out his contract is wrong. He would be the one to have to do that himself. Would be a nightmare with all the tax involved.
He really can't go unless Levy allows him to.
 
Enigma_87 said:
Any source of that? Never heard it so far that he was their top choice or they have approached him. Lopetegui was announced well before the WC started and since he was sacked Conte has always been their top choice.
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Only if your head was buried in sand. All the spanish media were reporting that Madrid went in for Poch and he told them no. Ask yourself why Madrid appointed Lopetegui if they could have got Poch? Because Poch said no. Perez wants Poch at Madrid and will no doubt try again in the summer.

Ballague is very close to Poch, he wrote his book for example. He also wrote in his column in September

Real Madrid went for Lopetegui not because he was their manager of choice but because the likes of Tottenham's Mauricio Pochettino and Juve's Massimiliano Allegri had turned them down.

In came agent Jorge Mendes suggesting Lopetegui for the role.

It was only when Rubiales started to receive a whole heap of criticism from all and sundry that the mood - particularly the president's - changed.

Yes, Lopetegui could certainly have handled it better, perhaps telling Madrid to wait until after the competition before talking to them.

Madrid could hardly have handled it worse - except of course they could not care less because as far as they were concerned they were just doing what they wanted to in the best interests of the club.


Also numerous reports in the Daily Mail, The Sun etc
 
Adisa said:
The idea we can buy out his conteaco is wrong. He would be the one to have to do that himself. Would be a nightmare with all the tax involved.
He really can't go unless Levy allows him to.
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Totally agree but Levy and Poch have an incredibly good working relationship, I doubt that if Poch really wanted to go he would make him stay it would ruin the dynamic completely. Having said that I honestly believe Poch will honour a contract he only signed last summer, again just my opinion.
 
Primativ said:
Only if your head was buried in sand. All the spanish media were reporting that Madrid went in for Poch and he told them no. Ask yourself why Madrid appointed Lopetegui if they could have got Poch? Because Poch said no. Perez wants Poch at Madrid and will no doubt try again in the summer.

Ballague is very close to Poch, he wrote his book for example. He also wrote in his column in September

Real Madrid went for Lopetegui not because he was their manager of choice but because the likes of Tottenham's Mauricio Pochettino and Juve's Massimiliano Allegri had turned them down.

In came agent Jorge Mendes suggesting Lopetegui for the role.

It was only when Rubiales started to receive a whole heap of criticism from all and sundry that the mood - particularly the president's - changed.

Yes, Lopetegui could certainly have handled it better, perhaps telling Madrid to wait until after the competition before talking to them.

Madrid could hardly have handled it worse - except of course they could not care less because as far as they were concerned they were just doing what they wanted to in the best interests of the club.


Also numerous reports in the Daily Mail, The Sun etc
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Balague, Daily Mail and The Sun aren't really the best sources to be fair. They ride the wave and can recycle a lot of bollocks in short time. It's an educated guess who was Madrid's prime candidate as you also mentioned Allegri.

There were a lot of names involved in the Summer - Sarri, Klopp, Conte, even Guti.
 
Enigma_87 said:
Balague, Daily Mail and The Sun aren't really the best sources to be fair. They ride the wave and can recycle a lot of bollocks in short time. It's an educated guess who was Madrid's prime candidate as you also mentioned Allegri.

There were a lot of names involved in the Summer - Sarri, Klopp, Conte, even Guti.
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Balague is the best source you will get on Poch, and there aren’t many.
 
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