70s Fantasy Draft QF3 - Cling Bak v Snow

Who will win based on players in their prime, team tactics, balance & bench strength?


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I'm wondering whether Mendieta would just say "sod it" and swap with Vieira.
 
Stop teasing and just vote for me already Anto.

It's normally so hard to vote in this fantasy competition. I've found most games to be very close and logically there haven't been many reasons that one team should win the other team. Of course you never really can't say anything like that in football but generally the difference has been little between teams. All my games have been very close except for one. Again, of course I feel like I should win but a loss wouldn't anger me because other voters seem to be generally torn to pick a team like I have been.
 
The problem is with Mendieta on the right I would definitely vote for Cling Bak. He would be in a position to shape the game more and would strengthen the weaker side of his attack (against the somewhat poorer side of your defence).

With him on the left I'm in two minds. I have to say, I'm inclined to believe he would tell Vieira to bugger off to the left and let his football do the talking to shut up his manager.

It is very very close though.
 
Yeah, he's gone from orange to pink to make Vieira feel at home. What is KSI? Iceland?

Iceland yes. Icelandic abbreviation meaning FA. I'd personally like the flag as our team crest rather than some FA that are idiots.
 
Mate, sorry but my instinct tells me Mendieta would switch and win it, it makes no sense for him to be there.

If I wait around for Cling to do it my vote will be construed as rewarding him for a belated switch or if he doesn't and I vote for you it would be more a punishment for not listening to me. I'm not keen on either high-horse scenario.
 
Mate, sorry but my instinct tells me Mendieta would switch and win it, it makes no sense for him to be there.

If I wait around for Cling to do it my vote will be construed as rewarding him for a belated switch or if he doesn't and I vote for you it would be more a punishment for not listening to me. I'm not keen on either high-horse scenario.

He's on the right. It's done.
 
Was 12-12 few mins back.

Just came back to see Cling get a 3 vote lead.

Interesting.
 
With the game now a lot more open and Riquelme having caused his damage, Team Cling are looking to kill things off on the break as Ze Roberto brings good width with added defensive responsibility.

Substitution:
Ze Roberto replaces Steve McManaman
Fernando Morientes replaces Juan Roman Riquelme


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Was 12-12 few mins back.

Just came back to see Cling get a 3 vote lead.

Interesting.

Cold Boy, you should pay attention here, Cling is going 4-4-2, let's see what happens now...

Very neat 4-4-2 actually, I hadn't even realised... SHOW OFF! :lol:
 
So I get to control the midfield now?

Not really, Riquelme was doing bugger all defensively.

Zé Roberto now really closes down that left flank, Figo has gone quiet...

Nice switch. Was it 15 or 16-12 when that was brought about?
 
I like the way Cling has squeezed together the backline and midfield to hide the space for Deco, Giggs and Figo.

Kluivert is offside and VDS has left an open goal :lol:
 
Cold Boy, you should pay attention here, Cling is going 4-4-2, let's see what happens now...

Very neat 4-4-2 actually, I hadn't even realised... SHOW OFF! :lol:

Yep.

Good chance to see what could happen.

Though Keane and Ballack will do the work of 3 midfielders together.
 
Not really, Riquelme was doing bugger all defensively.

Zé Roberto now really closes down that left flank, Figo has gone quiet...

Nice switch. Was it 15 or 16-12 when that was brought about?

Was 16 i am sure.
 
Not really, Riquelme was doing bugger all defensively.

Zé Roberto now really closes down that left flank, Figo has gone quiet...

Nice switch. Was it 15 or 16-12 when that was brought about?

16 when I commented.

How am I not controlling the midfield with 3 top class players vs 2? It's really very basic math.
He also made his wings less effective. Ze Roberto is not more effective than McManaman and he's got Overmars now on the left. His crossing wasn't his strongest side.

This has to mean that Deco has loads off space to exploit. And Lampard can afford to be more aggressive in attack.
 
16 when I commented.

How am I not controlling the midfield with 3 top class players vs 2? It's really very basic math.
He also made his wings less effective. Ze Roberto is not more effective than McManaman and he's got Overmars now on the left. His crossing wasn't his strongest side.

This has to mean that Deco has loads off space to exploit. And Lampard can afford to be more aggressive in attack.

Also gives more chance of a deflected goal for Lampard.
 
I don't think I rate Mendieta as much as some in this thread.

As good as Clings midfield is his defence is dodgy as and Giggs/Figo are the 2 best wingers in the draft and would have a field day
 
My vote was number 13 and I would have voted for Snow regardless of the 4-4-2.
 
I genuinely thought it was tight as hell. I don't know why he changed to 4-4-2. It's a dangerous tactic. This game was a constant power for battle and he basically gave it up.
 
16 when I commented.

How am I not controlling the midfield with 3 top class players vs 2? It's really very basic math.

His two are very good though, he has lost a fair share of his ability to dictate the game once he gets the ball though.

He also made his wings less effective. Ze Roberto is not more effective than McManaman

This is a late second half change to close out a game he is winning. Zé Roberto is more effective at keeping Figo quiet.

and he's got Overmars now on the left. His crossing wasn't his strongest side.

Agree, that's the downer, not a great player for a 4-4-2 in my book.

This has to mean that Deco has loads off space to exploit. And Lampard can afford to be more aggressive in attack.

Agree on the first, not on the second as much.
 
I've tightened it up defensively in midfield - all you did for three days Snow was say Riquelme doesn't defend and now you're saying you've got a numerical advantage! Make up your mind.

The wing Overmars is on, like McManaman isn't important. Both are very two footed.

I've also got you beaten on the counter. Morientes and Henry will still be very well serviced by two brilliant wingers.
 
I've tightened it up defensively in midfield - all you did for three days Snow was say Riquelme doesn't defend and now you're saying you've got a numerical advantage! Make up your mind.

The wing Overmars is on, like McManaman isn't important. Both are very two footed.

I've also got you beaten on the counter. Morientes and Henry will still be very well serviced by two brilliant wingers.

I already said you had more possession. You have the better central midfield and probably keep possession better. More possession of course doesn't mean more goals but it does mean that you are more likely than the other to score somewhat.
Had you put on Ze Roberto in midfield instead of Riquelme or Edmilson in midfield and Laursen in defense it would have been different. I wouldn't rate my central midfield much against it but at least I would have my strong wingers.

Numerical advance was just when I was attacking vs you attacking me. I would have more players defending.

I only don't understand why you changed it because you were winning already. You didn't need to change. But in some aspects it wasn't a bad change because I rate Ze Roberto. 4-4-2 just wasn't needed for you.
 
His two are very good though, he has lost a fair share of his ability to dictate the game once he gets the ball though.



This is a late second half change to close out a game he is winning. Zé Roberto is more effective at keeping Figo quiet.



Agree, that's the downer, not a great player for a 4-4-2 in my book.



Agree on the first, not on the second as much.

Sure but on people that have yet to vote shouldn't matter. They're voting on the team that's on the pitch, who would win. I just think that people who vote casually don't often check out changes so it won't matter.
 
Sure but on people that have yet to vote shouldn't matter. They're voting on the team that's on the pitch, who would win. I just think that people who vote casually don't often check out changes so it won't matter.

Cal? did get slaughtered after a change though. But I agree, most are probably still voting for the initial lineups, particularly late in the game. That's why I had suggested we added a line between them warning of changes and when they took place. It is relevant.
 
Yea but that would take Brwned or mod to be here all hours and that's a lot to ask so I understand if that is hard to implement in every match day thread.
 
Yea but that would take Brwned or mod to be here all hours and that's a lot to ask so I understand if that is hard to implement in every match day thread.

I'm not complaining, I fully understand. For starters, we can't expect Brwned to be trawling through this thread constantly to check for changes. Has Cling PMed him? Doubt it.
 
I put that line in nearly two hours ago, to be fair. I doubt it makes much of a difference, people aren't arsed to go to another page, scroll down and then compare when there's a direct comparison on the first page...which is why some just PM me to make the changes within the OP.
 
Sure but on people that have yet to vote shouldn't matter. They're voting on the team that's on the pitch, who would win. I just think that people who vote casually don't often check out changes so it won't matter.

Technically, wouldn't they be voting on a starting lineup with introduced changes later in a game? Just like if you were reading through the thread and seeing things introduced.

Sky+ viewers have told me that's what they're doing.

Your team is looking tired and jaded now.
 
Technically, wouldn't they be voting on a starting lineup with introduced changes later in a game? Just like if you were reading through the thread and seeing things introduced.

Sky+ viewers have told me that's what they're doing.

Your team is looking tired and jaded now.

I don't think so. I might not agree with others opinions for your team being in the lead in the first place so what am I basing my opinion on? I can't be thinking "they are winning and make that change". All votes are equal but they wouldn't if you think that.
 
I'm wondering about the three people that voted for you after you changed tactics. I can't see your 4-4-2 beating my team. In football, sure, but not logically like we're thinking this.
They don't matter towards the result but it still makes me wonder.