700 for our Nr. 7
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Unreal achievement.
He is not happy with Ten Hag apparently but it is good that he stays professional and cares for the team. He seems to get along fine with some of his teammates. If he continues to score he will probably not leave in winter especially since Martial seems to be in trouble.
Messi hit 702 club goals?
Yep. This is what it makes it even more impressive.
Really not trying to turn this in to a Messi Ronaldo argument but he scored 11 goals in the 2nd and 3rd tier of Spain for Barca's B team, these don't seem to be counted but I'm not sure why? You would include their goals if they were loaned out to a standard lower league team...
Congrats on bringing up Messi
Brilliant achievement - love that it came as a winning goal on a very difficult away ground in the Premier League as well rather than a nothing game in the Europa League for example.
yeah but we’re talking about a generational striker in darwin. have you seen his top knot?
But I’m sure you would appreciate some more goals before then, of course.
Safe space and all that, put your hand up if you did/have hit the Siuuu in the comfort of your own home after he scored.
I most certainly did.
Top man. As did I.
Glad he did it in United colours.
Congratulations Cristiano. Enormous achievement.
He should only retire at 777. Fitting.
Probably asking too much.
Probably asking too much.
Regardless of current form and personal opinion on certain things I don’t think anyone can deny Ronaldo as being the greatest goal scorer in history, to do it across the three biggest leagues and the CL as obscenely consistent as he has is insane to think about.
I saw something earlier that said Haaland would need to score 43 goals a year over the next 16 or 17 years to achieve the same which really puts into perspective how insane Ronaldo’s scoring record actually is, for that he definitely deserves a lot of respect.
I saw something earlier that said Haaland would need to score 43 goals a year over the next 16 or 17 years to achieve the same which really puts into perspective how insane Ronaldo’s scoring record actually is, for that he definitely deserves a lot of respect.
He isn't.
Yeah, i deny that
So pleased Ronaldo got the big 700th with United. Well deserved Legend.
7 away from 150 for United.
With the CL expanding players will have more games to rank up European goals. So, I expect Mbappe/Haaland will overtake them eventually (considering their age)
But Ronaldo has been on the All-Time list for years now, what he does in his last few years won't change that...I just hope he can find a way to enjoy the later part of his playing days.
But Ronaldo has been on the All-Time list for years now, what he does in his last few years won't change that...I just hope he can find a way to enjoy the later part of his playing days.
Brilliant stuff
Messi is currently on 691… unless you want to also include the goals he scored for the reserve teams (ie Barca B & C)
Wrong answer. See above.
Barca B (6 goals) is Barca reserve team. Barca C (5 goals) is Barca youth team. Nobody count goals scored in reserves or youth level in professional football, when we are talking about all time record. It’s basically like Pele counting goals scored in friendlies or training ground, or worst.
Well yeah, the B and C teams play inside Spain's professional league system, so I don't know why they wouldn't count? If he had gone on loan to a club like Las Palmas playing in the same league I don't think there's any question of them counting.
Doesn't really matter much but I've found it a bit odd.
Astonishing. I'm really happy that I've been living in this era to see this player starting from being a teenage prospect and then going milestone after milestone after milestone.
When Casemiro unleashed that pass towards Ronnie, I just somehow knew that it would be the moment.
When Casemiro unleashed that pass towards Ronnie, I just somehow knew that it would be the moment.
They play in Spains 2nd/3rd/4th tier of professional football. Not a youth/reserve league which differentiates it to the British reserve team system where they play in a designated youth league.
Not necessarily - if he turned up at the local park on a sunny afternoon and joined a game of jumpers for goalposts, he would probably do it in an hour or so (isn't that how Pele got to 1000+?)
Anyway well done Ronaldo and well done also to Sir Alex Ferguson for getting him back to Manchester to play under Ole Gunnar Solskjær - I take it all back, it was an inspired decision.
I don’t think that stat is true he’s 545 club goals behind. 43 goals a year for the next 16 years would give him 843 goals, well ahead of Ronaldo.
34 goals a year until he’s 38
39 goals a year until he’s 36
45 goals a year until he’s 34
54 goals a year until he’s 32
Still a lot to ask but not as much as that stat is claiming.
Basically there are always 2 official record list in football. First list concerns only about football records at top level, the one which everyone talks about. 2nd list concerns football records at every levels, including lower/regional league, reserves, youth, amateur level.
For example, career top scorer at top level:
(according to IFFHS)
1. Ronaldo 817
2. Messi 781
3. Pele 762
4. Romario 755
5. Puskas 729
6. Bican 720
Career top goalscorer at all levels, including lower/regional league, reserves, youth, amateur football:
(according to RSSSF)
1. Helmchen 987
2. Bican 950
3. Rooke 931
4. Ronaldo 835
5. Jimmy Jones 833
As shown above, 2 very different list differentiating top level with all level. Players like Helmchen top the 2nd list with 987 official goals, all from German regional/lower league level. He never scored a single goal at top level, and never get selected by the national team either. It’s an all time record regardless, but nobody would take this record seriously. Bican is an interesting one as 720 of his goals are scored in Czech and Austrian top division. But there were 230 goals scored in lower league/reserve/amateur level too. Rooke is another English player during 30-50s, scoring goals for top division clubs like Arsenal, Fulham but also many goals at lower division for the likes of Bedford town and Haywards Health town etc.
In reply to your question, Messi could also include his 11 goals scored for Barca B & C, but only under the 2nd list (at all levels, including lower league/reserves etc)
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Didn't Pele claim that he scored over 1000 career goals? Was that bullshit, not unlikely coming from him, or is the official recording from his time simply too unreliable to make any definitive statement either way?
Did this really need it's own thread? Really and truly?
I saw a TV documentary once which basically said Brazil in the 1960s became like the Harlem Globetrotters - exhibition matches for $$$s with Pele as the main attraction. The team setting him up for goals whenever they could, defences diving out of the way of his shots, whenever they could. Hence the crazy numbers.
I think the goals he scored in 'Escape to Victory' are included!
Who is ?
That’s not a fair reflection of their tours, they played a lot of top European teams (and generally beat them in serious games).
They beat European Cup winners AC Milan and Benfica in competitive games.
To take 1961 as one example. They beat all of these teams away from home in friendlies:
Bayern Munich
Lyon
Benfica
Juventus
Roma
Inter Milan
Pele scored 47 in friendlies that year but you can’t compare to friendlies of today. Knowing the reputation of Pele and Santos the European teams really would have wanted to batter them to prove European football was the best. But they generally couldn’t.
The Harlem Globetrotters played the Washington Generals and they entertained the crowd in fake games. Santos and Pele played proper games.
very good.Breaking down the numbers it would take for a Haaland for instance to hit 700 shows just how insane Ronnie and Messi's numbers are. Especially for Ronaldo who really wasn't a goal scorer for the first few years of his career. Unreal.
Oh gosh, I did not know that - thank you, very interesting stuff. The documentary I saw was years ago and maybe I misremembered it.
Sorry Pele!
It is particularly interesting because I have often thought that most top-club sides would beat most top international sides in a decent friendly match (mainly because of the time they have training and playing together) but this would contradict that theory.
I doubt we will ever see such games though these days - no time in the calendar plus insurance issues. Things were different back in the day: I still remember Kevin Keegan falling off a racing bike on 'Superstars' imagine City letting Haaland do something like that (we can but dream!).
Goat.