5 positions and the realistic 5 players to fill them ?

Now that Gundogan, Pjanic, Renato Sanches, etc signed for other clubs. There aren't too many options assuming that Pogba/Verrati are unrealistic.

I would sign Kante, he is available and we can easily pay his release clause. If Madrid sign Pogba, there's a small chance they sell Kroos. In my opinion, he would be the perfect Carrick's replacement.

It seems that the best young wingers are heading to Dortmund (Dembele), Bayern (Coman) and City (Sane). We are linked with Ounas, Lozano, Gabriel Jesus and Embolo. They are good players but I'm not sure they are ready to be in the first XI, someone like Mahrez who is currently the best player of the league would be a nice addition.

So, Bailly, Zlatan, Kante, Kroos and Mahrez would be potentially a good transfer window.
 
Still think we need another CB, Blind did okay last year and Bailly may not hit the ground running so I feel there is a need there. Rumours around Varane and Stones, both of which are good presently and have even further potential, Stones can also a job at RB.

We lack dynamism in CM, Herrera and Schneiderlin have been largely disappointing but there is still time. I think there is room for both a DM and/or a AM more in the Mourinho mould (i.e. not Mata). Kante would be brilliant and Gomes seems the most realistic (although I'd love Pogba I don't see it happening). I can also see us going for Matic and this being more realistic with the Mourinho factor, despite that I'd prefer Kante I think he's pure class.

We really lack a RW, Memphis/Martial are both suited to the left side. Maybe one could develop to play on the right; Martial has been superb and has a huge future, Memphis has all the natural attributes but needs a bit of a lifestyle/attitude change. Hoping we can pick up Mkhitaryan, he would be a great option if we can convince him despite the lack of Champions League football (in all honesty I feel he's Arsenal bound).

A target man is also high on the list, the Ibra deal seems done and dusted with the recent news from Sky Sports re his medical. IMO this is likely to be a one year stop-gap deal, regain champs league and go all out for someone longer term next year. Think this is a relatively decent strategy.

Top 5 (partially realistic), as per the thread; Ibra, Gomes, Kante(probably Matic), Stones and Mkhitaryn.

Ideal lineup, formation 4-2-3-1 with the various options in each position; this is assuming that Mourinho gets rid of Bastian, Mata and a few others as anticipated. Final factor is that having 5 new squad members is likely to be very difficult to knit together from the off and in only a few months due to the Euro's.

DDG
Darmian. Smalling. Stones/Bailly. Shaw.
Kante/Matic/Schneiderlin/Carrick. Rooney.
Mkhitaryn/Memphis. Gomes/Herrera. Martial.
Ibra.

Bench being: Romero, Blind, Stones/Bailly, Memphis/Mkhitaryn, Gomes/Herrera, Kante/Matic/Schneiderlin/Carrick, Rashford
 
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I promised myself last year to stay out of the Summer Muppet Show but wtf, I'm sleeping, dreaming and eating this shit every day anyway so why not let it out and enjoy the ride.

I put myself in Mou's shoes for a moment and pretend I have a war chest of £100m and space to increase our salary cap with another £700k/week.

Done deals
Eric Bailly Fee £23m (+8m adds)/70k/week (estimated)

Almost done deals
Zlatan Ibrahimovic Fee £8m (estimated agent fee/sign on bonus)/275k/week (estimated)

Possible signing
N'Golo Kanté Fee £20m (+5m sign on bonus)/150k/week (estimated)
a)Sadie Mané Fee £35m/100k/week (estimated)
or
b)Riyadh Mahrez Fee £40m/140k/week (estimated)

Bonus signings
a) Henrikh Mhkitaryan £25m/120k/week (estimated)
b) Fabinho Fee £20m/80k/week

Possible out going players
Mata Fee £15m/200k/week
Fellaini Fee £15m/120k/week
Memphis Fee 15m/75k/week


Let's say we can buy 5 players. Bailly, Zlatan, Kanté, Mané/Mahrez and Mhkitaryan. 23+2(5)+40+25= Players in £113m. Salary + £750k/week.

Let's say we sell 2 players. Mata + Fellaini. 15+15 =Players out £30m. Salary - £320k/week

Total: Net spend £83m. Salary + 430k/week.

With a 433 formation against all teams except home and away top 4 or away games top 8.

Valencia/Darmian/TFM
Bailly/Jones/TFM/RSW
Smalling/Blindt/Rojo/TFM/Tuanzebe
Shaw/CBJ/Rojo/Blind/TFM

Kanté/Carrick/Schneijderlin/TFM/Blind
Rooney/BFS/Herrera/Mhkitaryan
Mhkitaryan/Schneiderlin/Herrera/BFS

Mané/Lingard/Young/Rashford/Mhkitaryan
Zlatan/Rashford/Martial/Rooney
Martial/Rashford/Young/Mané

Full Muppet! My women and grown up kids thinks I'm crazy but that's the beauty being a kid in a middle age body. You do what you want and you don't care. On on to of it you doing shitloads doing almost nothing.
 
my 5 positions would be

CB - Bailly - never heard of him until we signed him would not have been my 1st choice if honest but looking forward to seeing him.
CM - Kante - love his energy and work rate, good footballer as well, no CL might be a problem tho.
CM - Cook - would be my wildcard signing, think he's going to be excellent player and imagine what he could learn from BFS and Carrick as think this will be both there last seasons at United.
RW - Mahrez/Mane - would be very happy with either, Mane the more realistic for me at the moment.
ST - Zlatan - looks a done deal, will be a good stop gap for a season or 2, brings a bit arrogance that we have missed, will help Rashford and Martial as well.

Hopefully we see more TFM this season as well really like him.

Sadly players will have to go as well, the likes of Rojo, Jones, Fellaini, Mata, Young, Valencia, Blind, all under threat and possibly a few more of the younger players as well.
 
7even said:
Possible out going players
Mata Fee £15m/200k/week
Fellaini Fee £15m/120k/week
Memphis Fee 15m/75k/week
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I think you're overestimating savings from their wages. It's more like:
Juan Mata - £140k/w to £163k/w.
Marouane Fellaini - £75k/w to £80k/w
Memphis Depay - £90k/w

Juan Mata should sell for more than £15m as well. Surely at least £20m?
 
Mark Pawelek said:
I think you're overestimating savings from their wages. It's more like:
Juan Mata - £140k/w to £163k/w.
Marouane Fellaini - £75k/w to £80k/w
Memphis Depay - £90k/w

Juan Mata should sell for more than £15m as well. Surely at least £20m?
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So which clubs are going to be able or willing to pay such wages for such players? I'd say none, which means you're likely stuck with them because likely they are not going to accept a pay cut when they can just stay put.

This shows the major downside of offering high wage offers to lure players .... especially when you then engage in attempted frequent chopping and changing of squad composition.
 
GlastonSpur said:
So which clubs are going to be able or willing to pay such wages for such players? I'd say none, which means you're likely stuck with them because likely they are not going to accept a pay cut when they can just stay put.

This shows the major downside of offering high wage offers to lure players .... especially when you then engage in attempted frequent chopping and changing of squad composition.
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New TV deal. We could get rid of those guys in a minute, just for embarrassingly small fees compared to what we paid, especially if the interest is from clubs in Italy and Spain that agree to terms with a Mata or Fellaini but then try to squeeze us knowing club and player want rid.
 
NoPace said:
New TV deal. We could get rid of those guys in a minute, just for embarrassingly small fees compared to what we paid, especially if the interest is from clubs in Italy and Spain that agree to terms with a Mata or Fellaini but then try to squeeze us knowing club and player want rid.
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The new TV deal will help with transfer fees (in the Prem), but much less with wages ... because accepting a new player on very high wages will mean knock-on wage demands right across the squad in question (with a massive cumulative effect), and also because the new player can't be shifted out if they flop.

Let's take Mata for example. If he's currently on £140k/w to £163k/w, which club might going take him as their newest and most highly paid player (most highly paid by far most likely)? I can't think of a single club.
 
Our 4 priorities this summer are CB, CM, RW and ST. We already signed Bailly, and it seems Mkhitaryan and Ibra are next. So I guess we will sign 1 or 2 more, Gomes, Matic, Pogba, James and Ounas have been linked with us, so one of them could be also playing for us next season.

GK. De Gea, Romero
RB. Valencia, Darmian
CB. Smalling, Bailly, Jones, Fosu-Mensah
LB. Shaw, Blind
CDM. Carrick, Schweinsteiger
CM. Pogba, Schneiderlin
CAM. Rooney, Herrera, Mata, Fellaini
RW. Mkhitaryan, Januzaj
LW. Martial, Memphis
ST. Ibrahimovic, Rashford
 
Things are looking up tonight for us...

Bailey is done.
Ibra looks on
Mkhitaryan looks on.

Now if we could get Pogba and maybe a DCM or RB we would be truly sorted.

---------------DDG------------
Darmien--Smalling-Bailey--Shaw
-------------Scheiderlin--------
Mkhitaryan-Pogba-Rooney-Matial
---------------Ibra------------

-------------Romero-----------
TFM-----Jones-----Blind----CBJ
---------------BSW-----------
Lindergard-Mata-Herrera-Memphis
-----------Rashford------------

Still leaving us Carrick, Fellaini, Januzaj, Pereira, Valencia and Young. The point is regardless of what you want for a starting XI this group could really compete for multiple pieces of silverware :drool:!!
 
Defender: Bailly
[Done, he can play as CB and RB]

Midfielder: Pogba
[Potentially one of the best midfielders in the world, our big signing, record fee]

No.10: Mkhitaryan
[Almost done, one of the best attacking midfielders last season. 1 year left of his contract]

Winger: Draxler
[He is a versatile player, he can play in all positions in the attack, still 22 years old]

Striker: Ibrahimovic
[World class player for free, he was one of the best goalscorers last season]

Defense: I woudn't buy another defender because we still have Fosu-Mensah, I prefer to give those minutes to him.
Midfield: One CM is enough, we still have Carrick and Schweinsteiger + Schneiderlin, Herrera, TFM and Blind could be move to that position. It would be a priority when Carrick and Scweinsteiger don't continue in the club.
Wingers: Martial is our only good winger, Memphis has been awful and Mata is not a winger. With Draxler we would improve our wings. Mkhitaryan could play there if needed, but he would be better with freedom creating opportunities behind the striker.
Forward: Ibra and Rashford as cover is okay. Mainly because we have Martial and even Rooney if there are injuries.
 
Fer said:
Defender: Bailly
[Done, he can play as CB and RB]

Midfielder: Pogba
[Potentially one of the best midfielders in the world, our big signing, record fee]

No.10: Mkhitaryan
[Almost done, one of the best attacking midfielders last season. 1 year left of his contract]

Winger: Neymar
[He is fully sik bro]

Striker: Ibrahimovic
[World class player for free, he was one of the best goalscorers last season]

Defense: I woudn't buy another defender because we still have Fosu-Mensah, I prefer to give those minutes to him.
Midfield: One CM is enough, we still have Carrick and Schweinsteiger + Schneiderlin, Herrera, TFM and Blind could be move to that position. It would be a priority when Carrick and Scweinsteiger don't continue in the club.
Wingers: Martial is our only good winger, Memphis has been awful and Mata is not a winger. With Neymar we would improve our wings. Mkhitaryan could play there if needed, but he would be better with freedom creating opportunities behind the striker.
Forward: Ibra and Rashford as cover is okay. Mainly because we have Martial and even Rooney if there are injuries.
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Fixed :devil:
 
Defence:
In my opinion i believe we need a strong powerful Right back who can provide us width; someone who has great stamina to play at a high intensity for 90 mins. For me he is one of the best right backs in the world this man is Serge Aurier.
To complete the defence we need a left sided ball playing centre back who can compliment Smalling. Van Dijk/ Koulibaly.

Midfield:
Our midfield needs a revamp as we cannot form a balanced partnership with what we have. We need a dynamic dribbler and playmaker, someone who can dribble in tight spaces and unlock defences. The man for this role is Isco. Beside him we need a box-to-box midfielder. the role is self explanatory. The man for this job is either Kante or Krychowiak. Playing in the defensive midfield role would be TFM; i can see him having a bright future under Jose.

Winger/Attacking Mid/Strikers:
Personally for me i would love to see Griezmann as our No.10. I believe he excels in this role as he can create chances, score goals and exploits space very well, he also has a high workrate. He is a perfect example of a shadow striker in the modern game. I would love to see form a fluid front 3 with Martial and Sane. These players can play across the attacking midfield potions and upfront which could be lethal. The RWF position is somewhere we obviously need to strenghthen upon and i can see Sane as the prefect type to fill the gap.

As you may of noticed i have not mentioned an orthodox striker; this is because i would love to see wide forwards drifting in and scoring along with our attacking Midfielder joining in with he goals. This is why Griezmann is vital. I see this as the best way to utilise the players that we have. We need to play to their strengths. And the way I see it is that a diamond formation with the 2 forwards playing as inside forwards is the best way to go. It would be lethal.
 
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Having signed Bailly, and with Mkhitaryan and Ibrahimovic on the way, I feel we only need 1 or 2 more signings. These will hopefully be wrapped up once Mourinho has seen the whole squad in action in pre-season. He might not opt for another attacker and central midfielder if our current ones prove their worth.

Defense: With Bailly, we have a strong enough defense, while giving chances to TFM and CBJ. Rojo should leave, Blind to be backup. I hope Mourinho doesn't put faith in Valencia or Young. I'd love to see us line up with CBJ(188cm), Bailly(187cm), Smalling(193cm) and TFM(190cm) at some point!

RB: Darmian, Bailly, TFM
RCB: Smalling, Jones, McNair
LCB: Bailly, TFM, Blind
LB: Shaw, CBJ, Blind

Midfield: This is the area where I'm the least be sure to get new additions. With Carrick getting a new contract, and Mourinho surely wanting to try out Schweinsteiger, Schneiderlin, Herrera and unfortunately Rooney, I doubt there's much space unless we get rid of some players. The dream would be if we somehow manage to get Pogba..

CDM: Schneiderlin, Carrick, Schweinsteiger
CM: (Pogba), Herrera, Rooney

Attack: With Mkhitaryan and Ibra, our attack is starting to take shape. We should give new chances to Memphis and Januzaj, while developing Martial and Rashford further. We could do with another young right winger if Mourinho fails to see potential in Januzaj, Memphis and Pereira. Mata and Fellaini should be headed out, but Young could be backup for injuries.

AM: Mkhitaryan, Herrera, Pereira
RW: (Sane), Mkhitaryan, Januzaj, Young
LW: Martial, Memphis, Rashford
CF: Ibrahimovic, Rashford, Martial
 
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If we sign Bailly, Zlatan, Mkhitaryan and Pogba, do you think it would be our best summer transfer window ever?
 
After Ibra, Miki, Bailly, I think we will 2 more. Shaw returning is basically a new signing as well. No idea who, but I would guess it is a central midfielder and a #10/winger depending on what the plans are for Miki. We've been linked a bit with Draxler so that's a possibility, but feel that one is unlikely as well. James we've been linked with but I get the feeling that's more Woodwards interests as a big name then Mourinho wanting him, not really his type. No idea who would be the first choice out of the current options as the 10. Ibra, with Rashford top? Rooney/mata the obvious choices, though Herrera and even Memphis could have time there.

No idea who for center mid though. Pogba is very unlikely, so we will end up looking elsewhere probably. Would Mourinho want a defensive mid, or a playmaker? Box to box/energetic type, or a slower but more intelligent type? It's safe to assume we'll play a 4-2-3-1 so it's the 2 at the base we need.
We currently have Schneiderlin, Schweinsteiger, Herrera, Carrick and Rooney for those 2 positions. 3 old/past it players, though can see Mourinho liking Schweinsteiger but using Rooney as a squad player. Schneiderlin needs to improve a lot but he has potential to make the DM spot his own (then again, he might just be sold). Herrera I'm not sure if he will start, but can see Mourinho using him like he used Ramires, as a squad player for multiple positions and getting plenty of minutes. Carrick will be kept for his experience and passing but not sure how much he will actually play. Seems a bit excessive number wise, and poorly balanced age wise, so Mourinho might look to get rid of all 3 of Rooney, Schweinsteiger and Carrick before his second season, but definitely some this summer as quality wise it's not good enough at the moment.

At this point I would probably get rid of Schneiderlin, bring in Krychowiak, get rid of Mata and bring in Draxler. More pace/strength and directness in both positions. Would give us a much more dynamic side as well.
De Gea
Valencia Smalling Bailly Shaw
Krychowiak Schweinsteiger
Mkhitaryan Draxler Martial
Ibrahimovic
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Rashford, Rooney, Herrera, Memphis, Blind and Young as the main subs. Seems quality all around.
 
Bwuk said:
What about Henrikh Mkhitaryan?

He apparently wants to leave Dortmund?
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Jose stop reading my posts.

Bailly, Zlatan and Mkhitaryan so far. Think we'll sign someone like Kante/Diarra, and then well try and fail for Pogba.
 
Bwuk said:
Jose stop reading my posts.

Bailly, Zlatan and Mkhitaryan so far. Think we'll sign someone like Kante/Diarra, and then well try and fail for Pogba.
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Go on, tell us who's next so I can test the fact you're not Dr Who.

Do you think Mkhitaryan was due to Griezmann renewing or was that the #1 target?
 
TheNewEra said:
Go on, tell us who's next so I can test the fact you're not Dr Who.

Do you think Mkhitaryan was due to Griezmann renewing or was that the #1 target?
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I don't think we were ever after Griezmann.
 
After Bailly, Ibra and Mkhitaryan, it sems that a CM is next. Pogba is the dream signing.

Assuming we buy a creative midfielder. Who would be your last signing of the summer? Which of the next positions would you strength?
  • Experienced CB
  • Right back
  • Defensive midfielder
  • No.10
  • Winger
 
Fer said:
After Bailly, Ibra and Mkhitaryan, it sems that a CM is next. Pogba is the dream signing.

Assuming we buy a creative midfielder. Who would be your last signing of the summer? Which of the next positions would you strength?
  • Experienced CB
  • Right back
  • Defensive midfielder
  • No.10
  • Winger
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Only Pogba will do. Thank you very much
 
Fer said:
If we sign Bailly, Zlatan, Mkhitaryan and Pogba, do you think it would be our best summer transfer window ever?
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Pretty sure it will be. Even though the January window with Vidic and Evra was damn incredible and was the reason I started tuning into football again after years of suffering through Rafael, Park, O'Shea, Fletcher, Cleverly and Giggs in central midfield.
 
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Fer said:
Defender: Bailly
[Done, he can play as CB and RB]

Midfielder: Pogba
[Potentially one of the best midfielders in the world, our big signing, record fee]

No.10: Mkhitaryan
[Almost done, one of the best attacking midfielders last season. 1 year left of his contract]

Winger: Draxler
[He is a versatile player, he can play in all positions in the attack, still 22 years old]

Striker: Ibrahimovic
[World class player for free, he was one of the best goalscorers last season]

Defense: I woudn't buy another defender because we still have Fosu-Mensah, I prefer to give those minutes to him.
Midfield: One CM is enough, we still have Carrick and Schweinsteiger + Schneiderlin, Herrera, TFM and Blind could be move to that position. It would be a priority when Carrick and Scweinsteiger don't continue in the club.
Wingers: Martial is our only good winger, Memphis has been awful and Mata is not a winger. With Draxler we would improve our wings. Mkhitaryan could play there if needed, but he would be better with freedom creating opportunities behind the striker.
Forward: Ibra and Rashford as cover is okay. Mainly because we have Martial and even Rooney if there are injuries.
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Yes if we could also get Pogba and Draxler, I think this summer would be perfect :drool:
 
bosnian_red said:
After Ibra, Miki, Bailly, I think we will 2 more. Shaw returning is basically a new signing as well. No idea who, but I would guess it is a central midfielder and a #10/winger depending on what the plans are for Miki. We've been linked a bit with Draxler so that's a possibility, but feel that one is unlikely as well. James we've been linked with but I get the feeling that's more Woodwards interests as a big name then Mourinho wanting him, not really his type. No idea who would be the first choice out of the current options as the 10. Ibra, with Rashford top? Rooney/mata the obvious choices, though Herrera and even Memphis could have time there.

No idea who for center mid though. Pogba is very unlikely, so we will end up looking elsewhere probably. Would Mourinho want a defensive mid, or a playmaker? Box to box/energetic type, or a slower but more intelligent type? It's safe to assume we'll play a 4-2-3-1 so it's the 2 at the base we need.
We currently have Schneiderlin, Schweinsteiger, Herrera, Carrick and Rooney for those 2 positions. 3 old/past it players, though can see Mourinho liking Schweinsteiger but using Rooney as a squad player. Schneiderlin needs to improve a lot but he has potential to make the DM spot his own (then again, he might just be sold). Herrera I'm not sure if he will start, but can see Mourinho using him like he used Ramires, as a squad player for multiple positions and getting plenty of minutes. Carrick will be kept for his experience and passing but not sure how much he will actually play. Seems a bit excessive number wise, and poorly balanced age wise, so Mourinho might look to get rid of all 3 of Rooney, Schweinsteiger and Carrick before his second season, but definitely some this summer as quality wise it's not good enough at the moment.

At this point I would probably get rid of Schneiderlin, bring in Krychowiak, get rid of Mata and bring in Draxler. More pace/strength and directness in both positions. Would give us a much more dynamic side as well.
De Gea
Valencia Smalling Bailly Shaw
Krychowiak Schweinsteiger
Mkhitaryan Draxler Martial
Ibrahimovic
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Rashford, Rooney, Herrera, Memphis, Blind and Young as the main subs. Seems quality all around.
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Don't know but I think Draxler and Mhkitaryan would both be more comfortable if they swapped positions plus isn't the Polish guy joining PSG?
 
itso 7 said:
Don't know but I think Draxler and Mhkitaryan would both be more comfortable if they swapped positions plus isn't the Polish guy joining PSG?
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Mkhitaryan is probably better on the wing, his best form and where he played the most was on the right drifting in. And yeah krychowiak signed today, would have been good though.
 
bosnian_red said:
Mkhitaryan is probably better on the wing, his best form and where he played the most was on the right drifting in. And yeah krychowiak signed today, would have been good though.
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Be that as it may Krychowiak could have been a great signing because that would have allowed us the luxury of fielding even a baboon next to him like we did when Carrick was in his prime with Cleverley et al.
 
Fer said:
After Bailly, Ibra and Mkhitaryan, it sems that a CM is next. Pogba is the dream signing.

Assuming we buy a creative midfielder. Who would be your last signing of the summer? Which of the next positions would you strength?
  • Experienced CB
  • Right back
  • Defensive midfielder
  • No.10
  • Winger
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CB would be my choice, still feel we are short of quality there.
 
Devil may care said:
CB would be my choice, still feel we are short of quality there.
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I would like to see Bonucci, but I think he will stay in Juventus.
IMO Manolas and Koulibaly are realistic. Koulibaly is slightly better, he is a ball playing CB and he has a good technique for a defender. Unfortunately, I think he will go to Chelsea.

Which CB would you sign?
 
Fer said:
I would like to see Bonucci, but I think he will stay in Juventus.
IMO Manolas and Koulibaly are realistic. Koulibaly is slightly better, he is a ball playing CB and he has a good technique for a defender. Unfortunately, I think he will go to Chelsea.

Which CB would you sign?
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Bonucci or Godin would be perfect but very unlikely, I think someone like Ashley Williams or Garay might be decent for 2 or 3 seasons while we see how the market shakes out and how RoShaun Williams and Axel Tuanzebe develop.
 
itso 7 said:
Wtf????
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I was barely conscious writing that.. :lol:

I lost touch with football around 2001, when ice hockey and computer games took centre stage. With the double swoop of Vidic and Evra in the news in January 2006, I started getting into the world of footy once again. No more Brown and Silvestre in the starting XI..
 
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Seven Seas Sardines said:
I was barely conscious writing that.. :lol:

I lost touch with football for many years, when ice hockey and computer games took centre stage. With the double swoop of Vidic and Evra in the news in January 2006, I started getting into the world of footy once again. No more Brown and Silvestre in the starting XI..
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Ok its just that the Rafael reference shocked me given that he came way after Evra and Vidic were established in the side.
 
Devil may care said:
Bonucci or Godin would be perfect but very unlikely, I think someone like Ashley Williams or Garay might be decent for 2 or 3 seasons while we see how the market shakes out and how RoShaun Williams and Axel Tuanzebe develop.
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Ashley Williams :wenger:

Did you watch him last season? Or just saw he had a few good games in the euros and we should go for him. He was terrible last season. We better off keeping Rojo.
 
Bojan11 said:
Ashley Williams :wenger:

Did you watch him last season? Or just saw he had a few good games in the euros and we should go for him. He was terrible last season. We better off keeping Rojo.
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I didn't think he was terrible last season when I saw Swansea, he's a good all round CB who has leadership qualities and knows the PL. He wouldn't be my first choice but he's a solid option IMO.
 
Devil may care said:
I didn't think he was terrible last season when I saw Swansea, he's a good all round CB who has leadership qualities and knows the PL. He wouldn't be my first choice but he's a solid option IMO.
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Ah those leadership qualities. Does that make a player we should go for?

You clearly didn't watch him then. He was awful for Swansea and was worse than Rojo last season.

I agree we need another CB. But signing another average CB because his best attribute is shouting is not going to help us.
 
Bojan11 said:
Ah those leadership qualities. Does that make a player we should go for?

You clearly didn't watch him then. He was awful for Swansea and was worse than Rojo last season.

I agree we need another CB. But signing another average CB because his best attribute is shouting is not going to help us.
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Leadership at the back is important IMO, yes.

I did watch him, if you are saying you watched him week in and week out then ok.

There's only run of the mill CB's left to get right now IMO, a stop gap while we see how the Academy CB's and Bailly develop.
 
Fer said:
I would like to see Bonucci, but I think he will stay in Juventus.
IMO Manolas and Koulibaly are realistic. Koulibaly is slightly better, he is a ball playing CB and he has a good technique for a defender. Unfortunately, I think he will go to Chelsea.

Which CB would you sign?
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Activate Laporte's release clause, if you want a Rolls Royce signing.
Offer 30m for Varane if you want to take a slight gamble on a very good young CB with CL experience.
Test Juve's resolve with a big bid for Chiellini and be sorted with a CB General for 2-3 years.
Mustafi/De Frij?
 
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