5 positions and the realistic 5 players to fill them ?

Do people think we'll do any transfer business before the Euros?

Yeah strangely I do. I think if we are signing Ibra then it will be announced towards the back end of this week, that way he can then concentrate on the tournament.
 
Yeah strangely I do. I think if we are signing Ibra then it will be announced towards the back end of this week, that way he can then concentrate on the tournament.
Makes sense too, but the timeframe is obviously so short. Can't decide on Ibra. Hope he's great, but dread another money-gobbling Falcao scenario.
 
How the hell can anything still think Herrera should be in our best 11.

He was one of our best players last season but he really can't play in a midfield two and he's not potent enough to play behind the striker. I think he works perfectly however in the 4-3-3 system we utilized last year. Don't know how many goals/goal-scoring opportunities we created last year from him winning the ball high up the pitch.

The system change at the start of the season really fecked us as it brought out the worst from pretty much sll of our midfielders.
 
He was one of our best players last season but he really can't play in a midfield two and he's not potent enough to play behind the striker. I think he works perfectly however in the 4-3-3 system we utilized last year. Don't know how many goals/goal-scoring opportunities we created last year from him winning the ball high up the pitch.

The system change at the start of the season really fecked us as it brought out the worst from pretty much sll of our midfielders.

I agree with this point, but if he can only play his best in one position in one formation he can't really be that good as a footballer. I'd rather we moved him on in a continuation of Van Gaals removing of deadwood. Deadwood being players that aren't that good or won't play enough games in the season.
 
CB - Stones
RW - Mahrez
CM - Pjanic/Gundogan
ST- Ibra

Sell: Jones, Young, Rojo.

I would keep Fellaini considering he adds something different to the team (not his elbowing preferably, we'll leave that to the MMA crowd)

These 4 would do nicely and would be sufficient.

We should try and sign one superstar in the mould of Pogba/Griezmann/Kane, a player that would genuinely lift the whole squad. The 3 mentioned are fair unrealistic though.

What we definitely and undoubtedly need: a strong centre back, pacey/tricky right winger and creative midfielder. Ibra would be the cherry on the cake and great mentor for Rashford.
 
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Based on a few media reports, I think we will see some very significant changes in the squad.

Probably 3-6 players out and a similar amount in.

I think Ibra and Stones are very likely.

Hoping for Pogba and Mahrez.

One other quality attacker and we will be in a much, much better position.
 
CB
Varane and Marquinhos are unrealistic in my opinion. It seems that Laporte could go to City... So, someone between Stones, Koulibaly and Manolas would be a decent partner for Smalling.

CM
Do we need a defensive mid? a creative one? both? Assuming we play 4231, we would need someone to play with Schneiderlin I guess. Carrick, Blind, Schweinsteiger and TFM can rotate with Schneiderlin. We need someone to compete with Herrera. There are good CMs such as Pogba, Kante, Saul, Gundogan, Kroos, Pjanic, among others. We should go for an athletic and dynamic mid.

RW
IMO Dembele was the best choice. Moura is a good RW, but I think he will stay at PSG. So, Mahrez who was the best player in the premier league or Sane who could be a Martial's type of signing. If we are going to play with Ibra and Rooney, we need pace to balance our team. There are also some talented Portuguese wingers. During the euros we are going to be able to see who are the best wingers of the tournament.

ST
Kane is a bit unrealistic. Also, we have young strikers like Rashford and Martial, so someone with experience would be good. Zlatan for free is the obvious choice, but there are also quality strikers that can score 20+ goals like Higuain or Aubameyang. However, I prefer Ibra for free and use the money to go for a top player like Pogba, Griezmann or the unrealistic Dybala.

AM (Optional)
If Pereira/Januzaj go on loan, if Mata and Fellaini are sold. We could go for a player like Isco, James, Griezmann, Mane, Gotze, etc... I think the last 2 would be more realistic and also cheaper compared with James/Griezmann. Also, they are versatile players that can be used in different positions in the attack.
 
DDG/Romero
Bellerin/Darmian - Smalling/Blind - Marquinhos/TFM - Shaw/Blind
Schneiderlin/TFM/Blind - Herrera/Rooney
Mkhitaryan/Lingard - Mata/Rooney - Martial/Depay
Zlatan/Rashford
Three signings. £30m for Bellerin, £40-50m for Mkhitaryan, Zlatan on a free. That squad can challenge (not 100% on Marquinhos availability so maybe Van Dijk instead for a more no-nonsense approach)

For a bit extra, throw £80-90m at Griezman to play #10 (or Isco as a cheaper and inferior option) and the only other obvious weak spot is Herrera/Rooney. I like Herrera but still see him as top 4 but not title winning quality. Really do not know who to realistically go for though. someone like Matuidi maybe but he is a bit old. Kroos would be excellent but not sure he would come. Or just hope that Jose can get the best out of Basti!
 
DDG/Romero
Bellerin/Darmian - Smalling/Blind - Marquinhos/TFM - Shaw/Blind
Schneiderlin/TFM/Blind - Herrera/Rooney
Mkhitaryan/Lingard - Mata/Rooney - Martial/Depay
Zlatan/Rashford
Three signings. £30m for Bellerin, £40-50m for Mkhitaryan, Zlatan on a free. That squad can challenge (not 100% on Marquinhos availability so maybe Van Dijk instead for a more no-nonsense approach)

For a bit extra, throw £80-90m at Griezman to play #10 (or Isco as a cheaper and inferior option) and the only other obvious weak spot is Herrera/Rooney. I like Herrera but still see him as top 4 but not title winning quality. Really do not know who to realistically go for though. someone like Matuidi maybe but he is a bit old. Kroos would be excellent but not sure he would come. Or just hope that Jose can get the best out of Basti!

Why would Arsenal sell Bellerin, let alone to United? Why would Bellerin want to leave? And what makes you think £30 million would be enough to make it happen?

It truly is silly season.
 
Why would Arsenal sell Bellerin, let alone to United? Why would Bellerin want to leave? And what makes you think £30 million would be enough to make it happen?

It truly is silly season.

A lot of Arsenal fans don't like Bellerin a huge amount, prefering a Sagna type RB who is a defender first. I have always seen Wenger as a manager that prefers defensive first full backs and if they can attack too then its a bonus. The biggest obstacle would ofc be Arsenal selling to Utd. Mostly I just really like the idea of Bellerin/Shaw on opposite flanks!
 
Fair enough. It would be madness to sell one of the best young fullbacks in Europe, let alone to a rival club.
 
A lot of Arsenal fans don't like Bellerin a huge amount, prefering a Sagna type RB who is a defender first. I have always seen Wenger as a manager that prefers defensive first full backs and if they can attack too then its a bonus. The biggest obstacle would ofc be Arsenal selling to Utd. Mostly I just really like the idea of Bellerin/Shaw on opposite flanks!
Then play FIFA! I have them both - I can tell you they do work well together.

As for the real world - it won't happen.
 
CB - Kostas Manolas. Impressed for Roma and looks a good combination of strong, solid defensive instincts whilst being athletic and technically good enough to build from the back. Fee: £30m?

DM - Lassana Diarra. Cheap, gettable, experienced, played in the PL before for a few seasons, with Mourinho aswell, and coming off an excellent season with Marseille. Gives United the option to solidify the midfield if they need it. Fee: £5m?

CM - Andre Gomes - Lacks consistency but really talented, great passing range, ability to glide past players and big enough and solid enough to not be exposed defensively. I think he's worth the risk. Fee: £35m?

RW - Henrikh Mkhitaryan. Seems like he wants to leave Dortmund, coming in to his prime at 27 and coming off a superb season with Dortmund. United need goals and he would provide them from that flank, very productive last year. Last year of his contract aswell so presumably wouldn't cost an arm and a leg, although Dortmund may hold firm and prefer to lose him on a free than let potentially 3 key players (Hummels already, Gundogan probably to follow) go in one window. Fee: £30m?

ST - Zlatan Ibrahimovic. 50 goals in all competitions last year for PSG, clearly still got it and would bring a strong presence to a squad lacking leadership and characters. A good stop-gap at 34/35 that doesn't harm the likes of Rashford in their development, either. Fee: Nothing.
 
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I remember Mourinho was linked with Stones, Griezmann and Pogba. I just add Zlatan for free and a young midfielder/winger to have more depth.
  1. Ibrahimovic
  2. Griezmann
  3. Pogba
  4. Stones
  5. Young attacking midfielder (squad player)
 
I can see us spending big this summer, especially as our net spend will be drastically reduced with the likes of Mata, Blind, Memphis, Fellaini, Young, and Jones potentially on the chopping block. We could easily spend £200m with an eventual net of about ~ £130m.

Zlatan, Griezmann, Stones, and Pogba are therefore realistic imo.
 
CB - Kostas Manolas. Impressed for Roma and looks a good combination of strong, solid defensive instincts whilst being athletic and technically good enough to build from the back. Fee: £30m?

DM - Lassana Diarra. Cheap, gettable, experienced, played in the PL before for a few seasons, with Mourinho aswell, and coming off an excellent season with Marseille. Gives United the option to solidify the midfield if they need it. Fee: £5m?

CM - Andre Gomes - Lacks consistency but really talented, great passing range, ability to glide past players and big enough and solid enough to not be exposed defensively. I think he's worth the risk. Fee: £35m?

RW - Henrikh Mkhitaryan. Seems like he wants to leave Dortmund, coming in to his prime at 27 and coming off a superb season with Dortmund. United need goals and he would provide them from that flank, very productive last year. Last year of his contract aswell so presumably wouldn't cost an arm and a leg, although Dortmund may hold firm and prefer to lose him on a free than let potentially 3 key players (Hummels already, Gundogan probably to follow) go in one window. Fee: £30m?

ST - Zlatan Ibrahimovic. 50 goals in all competitions last year for PSG, clearly still got it and would bring a strong presence to a squad lacking leadership and characters. A good stop-gap at 34/35 that doesn't harm the likes of Rashford in their development, either. Fee: Nothing.

Love these selections. My only change would be Pogba over Gomes. We need to pay up and get him back here. He's the exact type of player we have been screaming out for.

Adidas pays the club 70m pounds a year? Just offer it all to juventus.
 
Those saying we should mame Pogba the most expensive player in the World are missing the point, we already had the player, very hard to justify paying that now.

It would be a serious punch in the face for Sir Alex, basically the club saying you lost the player by not giving him some game time. Credit to Pogba for developing as he has at Juventus, prob proved his decision correct. I see the club being slow to try bring him back now as previously people were blaming Pogba for going but this would shift the blame to Fergie.
 
Those saying we should mame Pogba the most expensive player in the World are missing the point, we already had the player, very hard to justify paying that now.

It would be a serious punch in the face for Sir Alex, basically the club saying you lost the player by not giving him some game time. Credit to Pogba for developing as he has at Juventus, prob proved his decision correct. I see the club being slow to try bring him back now as previously people were blaming Pogba for going but this would shift the blame to Fergie.

That is irrelevant. The past does not influence what is a good decision now. Was selling Di Maria for 15m less than we paid for him a bad idea? No, it was getting £45m for a player that didnt want to be there and was massively underperforming. Likewise, paying huge money for one of the worlds best midfielders is always a good idea, no matter if we COULD have had him all this time had we not sold him.
 
Those saying we should mame Pogba the most expensive player in the World are missing the point, we already had the player, very hard to justify paying that now.

It would be a serious punch in the face for Sir Alex, basically the club saying you lost the player by not giving him some game time. Credit to Pogba for developing as he has at Juventus, prob proved his decision correct. I see the club being slow to try bring him back now as previously people were blaming Pogba for going but this would shift the blame to Fergie.
I understand your point. However, I think we could sell him to Madrid in 4 years to recover the money (in case he doesn't want to stay any longer). Also, we can recover some money on shirt sales and marketing. Unfortunately, I think we won't come here. But I will try to be optimistic.
 
I remember Mourinho was linked with Stones, Griezmann and Pogba. I just add Zlatan for free and a young midfielder/winger to have more depth.
  1. Ibrahimovic
  2. Griezmann
  3. Pogba
  4. Stones
  5. Young attacking midfielder (squad player)

That would be a stunning summer. Exactly what we need.
 
Griezmann might prove to be hard to extract from Atlético's grip, and the competition for his signature will be intense, no doubt - especially given the clause that others could activate. With that in mind, and the fact that we're bringing in Zlatan to lead a young group, perhaps we should improvise a bit and focus our sights on Ángel Correa instead. Quick (quicker than Griezmann, infact), great first touch, excellent dribbling technique, creative, shows a eye for goal (albeit not refined, and slightly wasteful - but that's understandable given his age).

Has the typical Argentine forward mentality in terms of determination (something that Tevez also evidenced at United), and can play in most forward positions (left/ right inside forward, shadow striker, a bit deeper as the #10). IMO, Correa could be a much better creative spark for United than Griezmann:



Comparable to where Dybala was at Palermo to start out (in terms of quality) - leading upto his penultimate season at the Renzo Barbera, and could be a near elite level player in a couple seasons. The timing makes a world of sense because Juventus got Dybala at just the right time, and United could do the same with Correa.

Throw in the fact that he's Martial's age, and we could be looking at two immensely talented players hitting their peaks at the same time, as well as Rashford if he keeps developing - that would be an immense attacking core, both in terms of talent and age. Now, he did sign a contract extension, but Simeone's position could be fluid, and that could unsettle Correa - who has a €45million release clause IIRC.
 
Manager - Jose
Striker - Zlatan

Center Mid - Pogba/Saul
Center back - Marquinhos
Right Wing - ?
 
CB - Kostas Manolas.
DM - Lassana Diarra.
CM - Andre Gomes
RW - Henrikh Mkhitaryan.
ST - Zlatan Ibrahimovic

This is a solid and realistic list, with the possible exception of Mkhitaryan leaving and not getting CL football (though if Pep doesn't think he's winger-y enough, only Juventus as a Pogba replacement or Arsenal at RW come to mind as better options, and maybe he loves Mourinho or something).

We'd be solid like this. I'm assuming Mata and Fellaini go as per the rumours, but Blind stays.

----------Ibra------------ (Rashford)
Martial-------Mkhitaryian (Memphis, Young)
---Rooney---Herrera----- (Gomes, Schweinsteiger)
--------Diarra------------ (Schneiderlin)
Shaw------------Darmian (Rojo, Valencia)
---Manolas-Smalling---- (Blind, Jones)
--------De Gea---------- (Romero)

and Fosu-Mensah getting time at basically every defensive position or going on loan somewhere we think he can start every game.

Then in the summer of 2017:
-Rooney goes and replaced by a younger CM/10, perhaps Isco or James from Madrid since I don't think Zidane is going to accommodate them, or maybe Pogba can be gotten then with us back in the CL and looking strong under Mourinho.
-Ibra gets a final year extension before being replaced in 2018 as he moves to China or MLS
-Probably a new winger is brought in since either Memphis or Young has gotten the available wide starts and the other has been frozen out.
 
De Gea
Darmian - Smalling - Stones - Shaw
Schneiderlin - Pogba
Hulk
- Rooney - Martial
Ibrahimovic

Would ideally have Mata or James in the CAM instead of Rooney. But I think we'll sell Mata. :( Pogba and Schneiderlin would be an amazing midfield though. All in all I'd say 40m for Stones, 80-100m for Pogba and 35m for Hulk. If we chose to get someone on cheaper wages, I'd like to see Mane instead of Hulk. He should only cost like 25m. But it might be worth it.
 
De Gea/Romero

Darmian/Valencia Smalling/Jones Bailly/Niklas Suele Shaw/Bothwick-Jackson


Carrick/Mensah Pogba/Tielemans

Rooney/Perreira

Leroy Sane /Lingaard Martial/Hirving Lozano


Ibrahimovic/Rashford

In:
Bailly - Didnt know much about him, Im going by the press. Id love Marquinhos or Varane
Leroy Sane - I think Lingaard has done well, but is never a starter for me and he is hardly a youngster really anyway. The potential of Darmian and Sane on one flank and Shaw and Martial on the other is very exciting.
Pogba - The dream box to box signing

They would be my big signings, all young and had great seasons in big leagues. Still I think

Tielemans - Looks raw what I have seen but a lot of experience for his age and all the potential to be the Belgium Seedorf
Lozano - Seen us linked for a while and looks like he can play on either flank with pace to burn, looks a great cheaper potential world beater
Ibrahimovic - No comments needed
Niklas Suele - WOuld lik eus to sign Oxford being English (i see Mensah more as a cm) but looks like staying at West Ham. I watch the odd game of German football and cant believe this guy is 20, looks and plays older. With Bailly looking like the big signing I think he would be a great gamble at probably a reasonable price, especially considering Jones and his injuries and how ineffective for me Rojo and Blind are as defenders.

Keep:
Schneiderlin - For me over rated before he came and under performed. Worth keeping with Carricks age and potential time needed for Tielmans to settle and Mensah to develop
Ashley Young - Never been a fan, but as a squad player his back up to play all four attacking positions as well as both full back ones, he is worth holding on to in case of injuries
Herrera: Has a great attitude and can play any of the central midfield positions. Can challenge any of the six I named there if he progresses or could just as easily fade away

Out:
Schweinsteiger - One of the best cm players in the world over the last 6/7 years, but been injured far too long before he came
Blind - Not a defender, we have good left backs, decent cm jack of all trades master of none
Mata - Never seemed the right signing, great pro, good player, wrong club
Fellaini - Never has or will be a United player, awful signing
Depay - Talented,awful first season, just doesnt seem popular with fans or players, always looks not bothered or in a tantrum, and his little hissy fit dropped for FA cup when he hasnt deserved it, dont want him in the number 7 shirt....or our squad

Yes I would like to see the back of most of the signings we have made post Ferguson

Blackett
Love
Powell
McNair

Loan:
Wilson
Varela
Januzaj

I think this would be a young talented, athletic, pacey side with a a strong experienced spine in DeGea, Smalling, Carrick, Rooney and Ibrahimovic capable of competing for the title not a top four place and longer term bags of potential to play in Europe for years to come.
 
It seems that Ibra, Andre Gomes, Lozano and Bailly are the players linked with our club.
Also, Mata, Blind and Herrera are the ones rumored to be sold.

Besides Zlatan, I would target different players. But I guess a Mendes client and a strong defender are realistic Mourinho's targets.

I think our targets are a bit raw but they have a lot of room to improve.
 
How good is Mkhitaryian?
I haven't seen much of him this season to be honest, but his stats seem prolific and with a year on his contract and has a desire to leave it seems, he could be a viable option.

Watching a few videos of him today and although people quote him as being a RW, he seemed to pop up all over the place, especially centrally.
He seems a hard worker from what little I have seen, which is what Jose likes and also has a cracking shot on him with both feet
 
How good is Mkhitaryian?
I haven't seen much of him this season to be honest, but his stats seem prolific and with a year on his contract and has a desire to leave it seems, he could be a viable option.

Watching a few videos of him today and although people quote him as being a RW, he seemed to pop up all over the place, especially centrally.
He seems a hard worker from what little I have seen, which is what Jose likes and also has a cracking shot on him with both feet

I confess to not watching a huge amount of german football but This guy is my No. 1 transfer target in terms of being realistic, playing on the right (unlike for example Griezmann who is more of a no. 10) and basically being phenomenal. I don't think he is a spread the pitch kind of RW so will probably be relying on our RB for that like we do when Mata played there, but that isnt a problem for stats like his!
 
He was one of our best players last season but he really can't play in a midfield two and he's not potent enough to play behind the striker. I think he works perfectly however in the 4-3-3 system we utilized last year. Don't know how many goals/goal-scoring opportunities we created last year from him winning the ball high up the pitch.

The system change at the start of the season really fecked us as it brought out the worst from pretty much sll of our midfielders.

Not sure i agree with this. Herrera one of our best players? I thought that, especially in the run in, even fellaini out performed him. Not good enough to start for me.

As for his "winning the ball", that myth needs to die. Hes so rash, a bit like a headless chicken. Gives far too many freekicks away for me. Is poor defensively, even if he works hard.

Agree he probably works best in a 433, but i think that if we want to aspire to be challenging, hes a bench warmer at best.

Hes a weird one, can shoot but doesn't score enough, can pass but is not that creative, works hard defensively, but gives away yoo many stupid free kicks, and is poor positionally.

He has aspects of all three but doesn't really do any of them well. Jack of all trades, far from a master of any.
 
CB - Kostas Manolas. Impressed for Roma and looks a good combination of strong, solid defensive instincts whilst being athletic and technically good enough to build from the back. Fee: £30m?

DM - Lassana Diarra. Cheap, gettable, experienced, played in the PL before for a few seasons, with Mourinho aswell, and coming off an excellent season with Marseille. Gives United the option to solidify the midfield if they need it. Fee: £5m?

CM - Andre Gomes - Lacks consistency but really talented, great passing range, ability to glide past players and big enough and solid enough to not be exposed defensively. I think he's worth the risk. Fee: £35m?

RW - Henrikh Mkhitaryan. Seems like he wants to leave Dortmund, coming in to his prime at 27 and coming off a superb season with Dortmund. United need goals and he would provide them from that flank, very productive last year. Last year of his contract aswell so presumably wouldn't cost an arm and a leg, although Dortmund may hold firm and prefer to lose him on a free than let potentially 3 key players (Hummels already, Gundogan probably to follow) go in one window. Fee: £30m?

ST - Zlatan Ibrahimovic. 50 goals in all competitions last year for PSG, clearly still got it and would bring a strong presence to a squad lacking leadership and characters. A good stop-gap at 34/35 that doesn't harm the likes of Rashford in their development, either. Fee: Nothing.

Realistic options.

Zlatan and Gomes could be our our next signings. Diarra for 5m would be a decent addition. Manolas and Mkhitaryan are available and we jwould have competition for 2 or 3 clubs to sign them, so, it's possible.
 
How good is Mkhitaryian?
I haven't seen much of him this season to be honest, but his stats seem prolific and with a year on his contract and has a desire to leave it seems, he could be a viable option.

Watching a few videos of him today and although people quote him as being a RW, he seemed to pop up all over the place, especially centrally.
He seems a hard worker from what little I have seen, which is what Jose likes and also has a cracking shot on him with both feet

Mkhitaryan is better as an attacking midfielder or even as second striker (similar to Griezmann/Dybala position. He normally plays behind Aubameyang.

He creates goal opportunities and he has a decent technique, dribbling and creativity, ball control and work rate. As you mentioned, he has a powerful shot and good work rate.
 
Looking like Bailly, Ibra, Gomes, Matic and a question mark over who might play on the right, we have depay lingard rashford and januzaj out of the team so maybe they can scrap over the right
 
Looking like Bailly, Ibra, Gomes, Matic and a question mark over who might play on the right, we have depay lingard rashford and januzaj out of the team so maybe they can scrap over the right

There's Galactico type money that could be spent on the right wing if Mata and Blind is sold. I think Woodward may still look to make a big statement
 
Looks like the press have very little, if any, info leaking from the club this summer regarding transfers.
 
Sufficed to say, no one who posted while the season was still active will get any of this right. Another triumph of managers and scouts over armchair youtube muppets.
 
It seems that we could end up with these additions for next season:

CB. Bailly
CM. Andre Gomes
RW. Embolo
ST. Zlatan

Or do you think we are going to make a big signing like Pogba, Verrati, Griezmann, etc?
 
The original post referred to 5 positions one of which was right back. I see we're linked to Monaco's Brazilian RB: Fabinho. Still only 22, and with 6 goals and 4 assists in 3060 minutes game time. He has a lovely really hard shot. Jose type player too. Can play a tough tackling DCM too. Here are some RB candidates, ordered on how reachable they may be. Every one probably an improvement on what we have now (going by the rating):
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The original post referred to 5 positions one of which was right back. I see we're linked to Monaco's Brazilian RB: Fabinho. Still only 22, and with 6 goals and 4 assists in 3060 minutes game time. He has a lovely really hard shot. Jose type player too. Can play a tough tackling DCM too. Here are some RB candidates, ordered on how reachable they may be. Every one probably an improvement on what we have now (going by the rating):
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Tolisso and Benjamin Andre don't play a right-back do they?
 
At present if the Ibrahimovic deal can be considered as done I feel that we could use two more signings (one CM and one RW) for us to compete. For me, the RW would be Mkhitaryan and for CM I'd go with Andre Gomes. With these two players I think we could push on and mount a serious title challenge.
 
At present if the Ibrahimovic deal can be considered as done I feel that we could use two more signings (one CM and one RW) for us to compete. For me, the RW would be Mkhitaryan and for CM I'd go with Andre Gomes. With these two players I think we could push on and mount a serious title challenge.
Anyone who can put pressure on John Stones in possession will be good.