What do you mean?
2Pac vs Biggy
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What do you mean?
Pac
I won't get too complex with my answer
I won't get too complex with my answer
haha very true.
I like a fair bit of hip hop but I'm no expert, I agree with everything Mockney said about Tupac and if I'm looking for something lyrical insightful then I sure as hell aint putting hip hop on.
So it's all about flow and what not for me, like others have said in this thread, can't go wrong with a pissed off Ice Cube.
This thread has turned into a Pac vs Biggie who gives lets discuss the prowess of the Wu 
Big Pun was better than all these cnuts
It does, generally. But it has lots of things other kinds of music don't have. For instance, lines like:
She keeps nuts in her mouth like the bitch was a squirrel.
You don't get that in fecking opera...
True, thought that's not what I typically look for in music.
Both were awesome and had different styles.
But i would got for 2Pac over Biggie simply because Pac had passion, spirit and kept it real. Yes Biggie was the better mc, no doubt but pac was a rebel and i like that.
West Side
But i would got for 2Pac over Biggie simply because Pac had passion, spirit and kept it real. Yes Biggie was the better mc, no doubt but pac was a rebel and i like that.
West Side
When I was younger 2pac was a favourite of mine, probably because I would hear all his shit from my cousin. As I got older and more wiser to hip hop (no expert by any means) it was clear that Biggy had the better flow between the two.
Though I think that 2pac had more 'hits' and easier to listen to music. A lot of people on her seem to think that 2pac had no flow or lyrical talent but just listen to 'Me and My Girlfriend' and you will know he was creative. The whole song he is rapping about his gun - fecking brilliant IMO.
Though I think that 2pac had more 'hits' and easier to listen to music. A lot of people on her seem to think that 2pac had no flow or lyrical talent but just listen to 'Me and My Girlfriend' and you will know he was creative. The whole song he is rapping about his gun - fecking brilliant IMO.
If you like aggressive rap, which has been mentioned. 'Pac easily tops Biggie. Ballad of A Dead Soulja, When We Ride, Still Ballin', When We Ride on Our Enemies, Hit 'Em Up, the list goes on and on.
Class album:
Class tune:
You can run but you can't hide Westside
Nightstalker, shit-talker, run and tell them Mr. L.M
Nigga with a gat and I'm back
Off the everyday prey that I slay
Rolling with a flotation through South Central
Monkey wrench ho' should know that she'll get the Bozack
Cause I'm not starvin' but feck that Johnny Carson ho'
Never had me on the Late Night Show
Comin' with the shit that'll hit
Steady Mobbin' cuz the flavor's good
There goes the neighborhood
Nigga with the third album
How come he don't fall off
Rollin' wit the the sawed-off gauge
Turn the page of the chapter, caught up in the rapture
But you know Anita, she can get the peter
Eat em' yum and you're floored
Mutha feck Billboard and the editor
Here comes the Predator
Check your head for the new style
feck Lawrence Powell and Briseno, Wind, and Koon
Pretty soon we'll feck them like they fecked us and won't kiss em'
Riots ain't nothin' but diets for the system
Fightin' with the beast, no justice, no peace
If any, even if we feck up Denny
Niggas are sick of your white man's tricks with no treat
That's right now it's on on sight
You called me a Muslim, no I'm not a resident still got my vote in
Farrakhan for President of white America I'm tearin' ya a new asshole
Who's the nigga with the new black
Strollin' to your suburb house and I douse with gas
Now who's cleanin' up trash?
Eat em' yum and you're floored
Mutha feck Billboard and the editor
Here comes the Predator
Got my black rag showin' and I'm whorin' Ira Reiner
Can kiss my grits like Flo on Mel's Diner
I'm meaner than a muthafeckin' hyena chasin' antelope
Put my chrome to ya' dome watch it bust like a cantalope
I can't stand a rope, so don't try to hang em'
Talk about dogs, Boy I can slang em'
Rat-a-tat-tat on your noggin
Cause Ice'll cream yo' ass like Haagen Dazs Chocolate
I get crazy when I catch wreck
Even be flippin' the tongue like diggety dung Das Efx
So who is Ice Cube?
I'm a rapper, actor, macker
Got a little problem with the redneck cracker
Get the tallywhacker, Jerry Heller is a devil shit-packer
Comin' wit a crazy pitch
Statue of Liberty ain't nothin but a lazy bitch
Don't want to give up the crack to the black
But you'll call it racial if we go and rape the ho'
But eat em' yum and you're floored
Mutha feck Billboard and the editor
I am the Predator
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Those lyrics are something else & the flow is excellent. The production levels on this album are some of the best i've ever heard!
One of my favourites right here, its mellow & hits the spot:
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What a way to kick start the album:
God damn, another feckin payback with a twist
Them motherfeckers shot but the punks missed
Ice Cube is out-gunned, what is the outcome?
Will they do me like Malcolm?
Cause I bust styles, new styles, standin - strong!
While, others +Run+ a +Hundred Miles+
But I never run, never will
Deal with the devil with my motherfeckin steel - BOOM!
Media try to do me
But I was a Boy-N-the-Hood before the movie, yeah
Call me nigga, bigger than a spook
But you the one that voted for Duke, motherfecker
White man, is somethin I tried to study
But I got my hands bloody, yeah
They said I could sing like a Jaybird
But nigga, don't say the J-word
I thought they was buggin
cause to us Uncle Sam, is Hitler without an oven
Burnin our black skin
Buy my neighborhood - then push the crack in
Doin us wrong from the first day
And don't understand why a nigga got an AK
Callin me an African-American
like everything is fair again, shit
Devil, you got to get the shit right I'm black
Blacker than a trillion midnights
+Don't Believe the Hype+ was said in '88
by the great Chuck D, now they're tryin to feck me
".. with +No Vaseline+
Just a match and a little bit of gasoline.." - HUH!
It's a great day for genocide (What's that?)
That's the day all the niggaz died
They killed JFK in '63
So what the feck you think they'll do to me?
But I'm the O.G. and I bust back (boom boom)
Bust back (Boom boom!) peel a cap (BOOM BOOM!)
Gimme room in the fire of the sun
Here the mack come, here the black come, watch Jack run!
Motherfeckers can't gank me
feck a devil, feck a rebel, and a yankee
Overrun and put the Presidency
After needin that, I'm down wit O.P.P., yeah
I met Farrakhan and had dinner
And you ask if I'm a five-percenter, well...
No, but I go where the brothers go
Down with Compton Mosque, Number 54
Made a little dough, still got a sister on my elbow
Did Ice Cube sell out? You say, "Hell no!"
A black woman is my manager, not in the kitchen
So could you please stop bitchin?
"Stalkin.. walkin in my big black boots" [Brother J]
[Cube] Yeah, yeah..
"But when will they shoot?"
"Stalkin.. walkin in my big black boots" [Brother J]
[Cube] Yeah, yeah..
"But when will they shoot?"
.. [automatic gunfire]
[Ice Cube]
You missed, and didn't hit Da Lench Mob either
"Guerillas in the Mist.." without Jungle Fever
But I got the fever for the flava of a cracker
Not a Pringle, bust the single, here's my new jingle
"Stalkin.. walkin in my big black boots"
The KKK has got three-piece suits Using niggaz like turkey shoots
My motto is +Treat 'Em Like a Prostitute+
Now if I say no violence, devil, you won't respect mine
feck the dumb shit - and get my Tec-9
And if they approach us
A-ight, a-ight - I bury those cockroaches
And if you can't deal with my +Kill at Will+
Here's a new gift to get - try my +Death Certificate+
+Amerikkka's Most+, Amerikkka's burnt - it's like toast
Like Jordan, I'm goin coast to coast
Dribblin the funk here comes the nigga
with the motherfeckin monster dunk, get off me punk!
"Jordan.. watch Jordan,
aiyyo yo watch Jordan .. YES!"
"You better eat your Wheaties" [M.J.]
"Stalkin.. walkin in my big black boots" [Brother J]
[Cube] Yeah, yeah..
"But when will they shoot?"
"Stalkin.. walkin in my big black boots" [Brother J]
[Cube] Yeah, yeah..
"But when will they shoot?"
[Ice Cube]
Darryl Gates got the studio surrounded
Cause he don't like the niggaz that I'm down with
Motherfecker wanna do us
Cause I like Nat, Huey, Malcolm, and Louis
Most got done by a black man's bullet
Give a trigger to a nigga and watch him pull it
Negro assass-in
I'ma dig a ditch, bitch, and throw yo' ass in
When they shoot, no, it won't be a cracker
They use somebody much blacker
What I do? I called up the Geto Boy(s) crew
Cause +My Mind's Playing Tricks On Me+ too
Never died, surround my crib
and F.O.I. makin sure nobody creep when I sleep
Keep a 9 millimeter in my Jeep - PEEP!
When I roll, I gots to roll deep
Ain't goin out cheap
Met the MADD Circle on Cypress Hill cause it's so steep
They'll never get me, they'll never hit me
Motherfeck that shit J-Dee
Now I'm relaxed
Grab the St. Ide's brew so I can max
Sittin by the window cause it's so feckin hot
and then I heard a shot - boom.
----------------------------------------------------
There's alot of slaggin off rappers on here, i dont understand that carry-on - its all rap / hip-hop & some you like & some you dont, but at the end of the someone likes it, so each to they're own
Class tune:
You can run but you can't hide Westside
Nightstalker, shit-talker, run and tell them Mr. L.M
Nigga with a gat and I'm back
Off the everyday prey that I slay
Rolling with a flotation through South Central
Monkey wrench ho' should know that she'll get the Bozack
Cause I'm not starvin' but feck that Johnny Carson ho'
Never had me on the Late Night Show
Comin' with the shit that'll hit
Steady Mobbin' cuz the flavor's good
There goes the neighborhood
Nigga with the third album
How come he don't fall off
Rollin' wit the the sawed-off gauge
Turn the page of the chapter, caught up in the rapture
But you know Anita, she can get the peter
Eat em' yum and you're floored
Mutha feck Billboard and the editor
Here comes the Predator
Check your head for the new style
feck Lawrence Powell and Briseno, Wind, and Koon
Pretty soon we'll feck them like they fecked us and won't kiss em'
Riots ain't nothin' but diets for the system
Fightin' with the beast, no justice, no peace
If any, even if we feck up Denny
Niggas are sick of your white man's tricks with no treat
That's right now it's on on sight
You called me a Muslim, no I'm not a resident still got my vote in
Farrakhan for President of white America I'm tearin' ya a new asshole
Who's the nigga with the new black
Strollin' to your suburb house and I douse with gas
Now who's cleanin' up trash?
Eat em' yum and you're floored
Mutha feck Billboard and the editor
Here comes the Predator
Got my black rag showin' and I'm whorin' Ira Reiner
Can kiss my grits like Flo on Mel's Diner
I'm meaner than a muthafeckin' hyena chasin' antelope
Put my chrome to ya' dome watch it bust like a cantalope
I can't stand a rope, so don't try to hang em'
Talk about dogs, Boy I can slang em'
Rat-a-tat-tat on your noggin
Cause Ice'll cream yo' ass like Haagen Dazs Chocolate
I get crazy when I catch wreck
Even be flippin' the tongue like diggety dung Das Efx
So who is Ice Cube?
I'm a rapper, actor, macker
Got a little problem with the redneck cracker
Get the tallywhacker, Jerry Heller is a devil shit-packer
Comin' wit a crazy pitch
Statue of Liberty ain't nothin but a lazy bitch
Don't want to give up the crack to the black
But you'll call it racial if we go and rape the ho'
But eat em' yum and you're floored
Mutha feck Billboard and the editor
I am the Predator
----------------------------------------------------
Those lyrics are something else & the flow is excellent. The production levels on this album are some of the best i've ever heard!
One of my favourites right here, its mellow & hits the spot:
-----------------------------------------------------
What a way to kick start the album:
God damn, another feckin payback with a twist
Them motherfeckers shot but the punks missed
Ice Cube is out-gunned, what is the outcome?
Will they do me like Malcolm?
Cause I bust styles, new styles, standin - strong!
While, others +Run+ a +Hundred Miles+
But I never run, never will
Deal with the devil with my motherfeckin steel - BOOM!
Media try to do me
But I was a Boy-N-the-Hood before the movie, yeah
Call me nigga, bigger than a spook
But you the one that voted for Duke, motherfecker
White man, is somethin I tried to study
But I got my hands bloody, yeah
They said I could sing like a Jaybird
But nigga, don't say the J-word
I thought they was buggin
cause to us Uncle Sam, is Hitler without an oven
Burnin our black skin
Buy my neighborhood - then push the crack in
Doin us wrong from the first day
And don't understand why a nigga got an AK
Callin me an African-American
like everything is fair again, shit
Devil, you got to get the shit right I'm black
Blacker than a trillion midnights
+Don't Believe the Hype+ was said in '88
by the great Chuck D, now they're tryin to feck me
".. with +No Vaseline+
Just a match and a little bit of gasoline.." - HUH!
It's a great day for genocide (What's that?)
That's the day all the niggaz died
They killed JFK in '63
So what the feck you think they'll do to me?
But I'm the O.G. and I bust back (boom boom)
Bust back (Boom boom!) peel a cap (BOOM BOOM!)
Gimme room in the fire of the sun
Here the mack come, here the black come, watch Jack run!
Motherfeckers can't gank me
feck a devil, feck a rebel, and a yankee
Overrun and put the Presidency
After needin that, I'm down wit O.P.P., yeah
I met Farrakhan and had dinner
And you ask if I'm a five-percenter, well...
No, but I go where the brothers go
Down with Compton Mosque, Number 54
Made a little dough, still got a sister on my elbow
Did Ice Cube sell out? You say, "Hell no!"
A black woman is my manager, not in the kitchen
So could you please stop bitchin?
"Stalkin.. walkin in my big black boots" [Brother J]
[Cube] Yeah, yeah..
"But when will they shoot?"
"Stalkin.. walkin in my big black boots" [Brother J]
[Cube] Yeah, yeah..
"But when will they shoot?"
.. [automatic gunfire]
[Ice Cube]
You missed, and didn't hit Da Lench Mob either
"Guerillas in the Mist.." without Jungle Fever
But I got the fever for the flava of a cracker
Not a Pringle, bust the single, here's my new jingle
"Stalkin.. walkin in my big black boots"
The KKK has got three-piece suits Using niggaz like turkey shoots
My motto is +Treat 'Em Like a Prostitute+
Now if I say no violence, devil, you won't respect mine
feck the dumb shit - and get my Tec-9
And if they approach us
A-ight, a-ight - I bury those cockroaches
And if you can't deal with my +Kill at Will+
Here's a new gift to get - try my +Death Certificate+
+Amerikkka's Most+, Amerikkka's burnt - it's like toast
Like Jordan, I'm goin coast to coast
Dribblin the funk here comes the nigga
with the motherfeckin monster dunk, get off me punk!
"Jordan.. watch Jordan,
aiyyo yo watch Jordan .. YES!"
"You better eat your Wheaties" [M.J.]
"Stalkin.. walkin in my big black boots" [Brother J]
[Cube] Yeah, yeah..
"But when will they shoot?"
"Stalkin.. walkin in my big black boots" [Brother J]
[Cube] Yeah, yeah..
"But when will they shoot?"
[Ice Cube]
Darryl Gates got the studio surrounded
Cause he don't like the niggaz that I'm down with
Motherfecker wanna do us
Cause I like Nat, Huey, Malcolm, and Louis
Most got done by a black man's bullet
Give a trigger to a nigga and watch him pull it
Negro assass-in
I'ma dig a ditch, bitch, and throw yo' ass in
When they shoot, no, it won't be a cracker
They use somebody much blacker
What I do? I called up the Geto Boy(s) crew
Cause +My Mind's Playing Tricks On Me+ too
Never died, surround my crib
and F.O.I. makin sure nobody creep when I sleep
Keep a 9 millimeter in my Jeep - PEEP!
When I roll, I gots to roll deep
Ain't goin out cheap
Met the MADD Circle on Cypress Hill cause it's so steep
They'll never get me, they'll never hit me
Motherfeck that shit J-Dee
Now I'm relaxed
Grab the St. Ide's brew so I can max
Sittin by the window cause it's so feckin hot
and then I heard a shot - boom.
----------------------------------------------------
There's alot of slaggin off rappers on here, i dont understand that carry-on - its all rap / hip-hop & some you like & some you dont, but at the end of the someone likes it, so each to they're own
A few of my all-time faves.
EFIL4ZAGGIN - The greatest Rap album ever made....imo.
The Chronic - More widely regarded as 'The Greatest of All Time'.
The Chronic 2001 - Filled it's older bro's shoes well.
X-zibit - Bangin'. Nuff said.
2 of America's Most Wanted - Amazing track from Pac's best album. Pac at his best.
Cypress Hill. You just can't beat a "Muggs sound"
Triumph - Technically brilliant....and what a video!
Jedi Mind Tricks - Heavenly Divine - One you may not of heard of. Again, Technically brilliant. Love the way they alternate in the 3rd verse. And that violin....
'Till I Collapse - Eminem at his best. Up there with Pac & Biggie and as technically proficient as anyone....easily!
And this wins the thread....if not all of Hip-Hop.
EFIL4ZAGGIN - The greatest Rap album ever made....imo.
The Chronic - More widely regarded as 'The Greatest of All Time'.
The Chronic 2001 - Filled it's older bro's shoes well.
X-zibit - Bangin'. Nuff said.
2 of America's Most Wanted - Amazing track from Pac's best album. Pac at his best.
Cypress Hill. You just can't beat a "Muggs sound"
Triumph - Technically brilliant....and what a video!
Jedi Mind Tricks - Heavenly Divine - One you may not of heard of. Again, Technically brilliant. Love the way they alternate in the 3rd verse. And that violin....
'Till I Collapse - Eminem at his best. Up there with Pac & Biggie and as technically proficient as anyone....easily!
And this wins the thread....if not all of Hip-Hop.
Just re-read this whole thread, fantastic read, great music videos, everything.
If you like hip-hop, read this thread.
If you like hip-hop, read this thread.