If the democrats didn't insist on a fact checker this time than they don't deserve better.
Trump were lying dozens of times in the first debate. The moderators didn't intervene. It's a disgrace.
Ideally both candidates should get dinner electric shocks for every lie they tell. Like Sean Connery and Klaus Maria Brandauer in never say never when playing the video game.
On a serious note. Will there be any facts checks e.g. overlays like "this statement is false and isn't backed by facts"?
So why does Harris have to be perfect then? Why do you hold her to a different standard?Every candidate will be held to a different standard to what Trump will be. This is not something new since it was also the case in 16 and 20.
So why does Harris have to be perfect then? Why do you hold her to a different standard?
So what's the standard to be president?She’s being held to the same standard any Dem would be held to, just as Trump will only be held to his usual low standard that he has set for himself over the past decade. Comparing them based on two radically different standards is futile.
So what's the standard to be president?
If the democrats didn't insist on a fact checker this time than they don't deserve better.
Trump were lying dozens of times in the first debate. The moderators didn't intervene. It's a disgrace.
Ideally both candidates should get dinner electric shocks for every lie they tell. Like Sean Connery and Klaus Maria Brandauer in never say never when playing the video game.
On a serious note. Will there be any facts checks e.g. overlays like "this statement is false and isn't backed by facts"?
It's irrelevant, Trump has built a powerful cult of personality around himself and his base is permanently fired up. That's why any candidate running against him needs to have an almost flawless campaign, to build up as much voter enthusiasm as they can.So what's the standard to be president?
It’s sarcasmThat quote makes zero sense…
At the DNC the wording was very much a "Tim Walz and I" platform. Tim and I want to protect women, Tim and I oppose project 2024 etc. Except when it came to the Middle East it was all "Me and Joe are working tirelessly for Israel", "Me and Joe gonna bring them hostages home".Maybe i have missed this, but since running for President, when did she "tie herself" to Biden on Israel?
It’s beyond that. It feels that the administration is doing nothing to stop this war. We hear every day something like “the administration is working tirelessly to end the war, release the hostages, relieve the suffering of the people of Gaza…” but nothing then happens. Week after week, month after month… almost a year in.The data really backs up what a terrible strategy it is for the Dems to keep twerking for Israel.
Obviously I agree to some extent...but surely you should be blaming Netanyahu?It’s beyond that. It feels that the administration is doing nothing to stop this war. We hear every day something like “the administration is working tirelessly to end the war, release the hostages, relieve the suffering of the people of Gaza…” but nothing then happens. Week after week, month after month… almost a year in.
Obviously I agree to some extent...but surely you should be blaming Netanyahu?
I can easily imagine a world where Harris' own views are simply irrelevant right now. She is not the President, and she can't be seen to undermine his 'strategy' during the conflict.
As for any voter stupid enough to vote for Stein: great job, next time just spoil your ballot and stop giving Russia a win.
We should be blaming the administration and campaign since they are the ones claiming they are "working tirelessly" for something and failing to deliver it. If they did deliver we'd be expected to praise them so the opposite should be true.Obviously I agree to some extent...but surely you should be blaming Netanyahu?
The Harris campaign wouldn't even need to outrightly condemn Israel to get a lot more people onside, just grow a backbone, support their own US citizens and tax payers, reaffirm international legal standards and tell Israel that with all that financial and political support comes real rersponsibilities to not act the complete cnut.
Who knows if a significant number of likely voters exist amongst the Undecided and other reluctant voters, and could be won over but when Donald Trump and JD Vance are at the gates ready to feck everything up, then doing the bare minimum morally and strategically should be well within the reach of the Dems.
Biden is a lost cause but if Ronald Reagan could do it over Lebanon then Harris should be able to fecking do something now.
It’s literally the oppositeBest poll for Harris in the past couple of weeks. However, being a single poll in a single state going against the current trend it should be treated as an Outlier, for now.
How? Trump spouts dozens of lies and Harris can't even interrupt him as the microphones are muted.It is upto the other candidate to counter the lies, not the moderator.
There was one instance of a moderator fact checking a Romney’s lie in the 2012 2nd debate, one, and Fox spent days crying foul over it. With Trump, it would be about 40 at the least, and the optics would be the moderator ganging up on him with Harris to the average low info voter. No network is brave enough to make that call, if they want to to begin with.How? Trump spouts dozens of lies and Harris can't even interrupt him as the microphones are muted.
Trump needs to be interrupted immediately when he tells a lie. The last format allowed him to speak for several minutes telling multiple lies without Biden being to interrupt him.
It's possible to correct and highlight a few lies but Trump is telling endless lies. So frustrating.
American voters expect politicians to lie. Calling Trump out for lies is largely ineffective.How? Trump spouts dozens of lies and Harris can't even interrupt him as the microphones are muted.
Trump needs to be interrupted immediately when he tells a lie. The last format allowed him to speak for several minutes telling multiple lies without Biden being to interrupt him.
It's possible to correct and highlight a few lies but Trump is telling endless lies. So frustrating.
It’s literally the opposite
If anything, the Siena and Pew polls that (totally accidentally) Silver is championing are outliers in a slew of polls that depict a tight race at battleground level and a D+3/4 edge nationally, basically 2020 redux. Siena has Harris winning 18-30 by only 8 points and a sample of R+3. I’ll eat a bag of dicks come November if either one is true, especially the latter, no general electorate in a presidential election has been R+3 for 40 years.
The Harris campaign wouldn't even need to outrightly condemn Israel to get a lot more people onside, just grow a backbone, support their own US citizens and tax payers, reaffirm international legal standards and tell Israel that with all that financial and political support comes real rersponsibilities to not act the complete cnut.
Who knows if a significant number of likely voters exist amongst the Undecided and other reluctant voters, and could be won over but when Donald Trump and JD Vance are at the gates ready to feck everything up, then doing the bare minimum morally and strategically should be well within the reach of the Dems.
Biden is a lost cause but if Ronald Reagan could do it over Lebanon then Harris should be able to fecking do something now.
I can quote another 10 polls in the last 2 weeks, which would be redundant. Anyway, from my point of view, what has happened since the convention, polling wise, is:Morning consult is an ok pollster at best. It was graded B by Silver if chatgpt is correct, and is currently ranked number 116 in Silverless fivethirtyeight this year: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pollster-ratings/
Big Village is crap (Grade C)
The rest of the polls you posted are not reassuring, rather worrying. Harris being 2 or 3 ahead nationally is not good enough because of, again, the Electoral college bias against the Dems. Biden was ahead by 7 and 8. It is not 2020 redux at all. The race wasn't that tight back then.
Harris still has a chance of course, a tight race can go either way, but Trump beat his polls twice making up for the gap with Clinton at state-level, and losing several states to Biden at a margin way narrower than predicted by the polls. If this repeats itself Harris is doomed, if not it's currently around 50/50.
Likewise, the Compact is likely to be deemed unconstitutional in SCOTUS, should it ever be put to use.Going forward, the only way to avoid this is the Nat. Vote Interstate Compact, because a Constitutional Amendment isn’t happening
I think the legal argument is murky, technically there’s nothing in the Constitution specifically against it, since states are free to elect their electors.Likewise, the Compact is likely to be deemed unconstitutional in SCOTUS, should it ever be put to use.
**I like the Compact’s goal, but not its chance of success**
All I can say about things like this is that her campaign 100% know this too. It's not like it's some new information that they're missing.
What you, I and everyone else is not privvy to is the actual discussions happening where it matters.
As a simpleton on the outside, I have absolutely no idea why there hasn't been a ceasefire. From the purely US perspective, it is in Biden's best interest and it is in Harris' best interest. Therefore, I have to assume that the reason it isn't happening is not a US issue, but rather one between Hamas and Israel.
I just find it extremely unlikely that given the importance of the election, the very well-known issue that the lack of a ceasefire presents and the very smart people working on the Harris campaign that Harris is not doing all she can to get it sorted. Why wouldn't she?
I still find posters on the caf absurdly naive in their belief that if not for the US Hamas and Israel would have settled this.
Muted, no notes, same as 1st debate.What was decided in the end about muting microphones?
Muted, no notes, same as 1st debate.
