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2024 U.S. Elections | Trump wins
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Does Kamala coronation basically make it very difficult for Newsom/Whitmer to take a shot at presidency if she wins.
If she wins and does a reasonable job of it, then she’ll likely be candidate next term, making it an 8 year wait for them.
If she wins and does a reasonable job of it, then she’ll likely be candidate next term, making it an 8 year wait for them.
I did it but in my defense I don't usually follow politics. I try to tune out or ignore it but it's scary times once again. Sowee.
If she wins then yes. I don’t think Whitmer had any Presidential ambitions anyway. As for Newsom, he could run in 4 years if Harris loses.
Of course if Kamala loses, then it’s going to be a heck of a line up next term.
If she wins, all the aspirants get taken out in one go.
Well, that finishes off my “right wing conspiracy theory” bingo card.
Any betting odds available?
It’s a mistake by Newsom not to run. What if she actually wins in November? Then he has to wait until 2032. Not many will care about him by then.
If he wants to be president, now is the time. Run. If you lose, endorse her and campaign for her.
If he wants to be president, now is the time. Run. If you lose, endorse her and campaign for her.
Is the old man dead?
Yes. The fact that they - and AOC - all with political futures, just absolutely avoided saying a single brave thing says a lot about them.
I think, based on very limited reading, that Beshear has shown more of a spine as a governor of a very red state. On trans issues he could easily have thrown them under the bus for a smoother re-election, but chose not to. Shapiro, on the other hand, heavily supports charter schools, and has been making statements about Israel with the extremely deranged John Fetterman. Of course, this election is not about issues but purely on vibes and image, and maybe Shapiro works better there, I don't know.
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I think Harris will have the entire party apparatus behind her in the next 24 hours. The final piece of will be Obama’s endorsement. Therefore there would be no political oxygen left for the others to jump in and organize a meaningful campaign.
Trump-era tweets are back
Ruthkanda forever
Ruthkanda forever
Nah, biden cant, by law, retire and should be locked up if he does
She needs to fire these clowns before they sink her too
If the plan was always to run Kamala would this have been the best way to do it? Set the media dogs on the old, senile, white guy for months and months to give her every leg up. All the benefits of being the incumbent while avoiding a lot of the mud slinging.
Donald's handling it well.
I can see why Trump may be getting a bit nervous. His entire reason for running this time was to use the Presidency to shield him from this federal criminal cases. If he loses, he won't have the ability to stop any of the cases against him once those that got thrown out last week get re-filed.
If Whitmer or Shapiro have any lick of sense, they won't be part of this car crash of a campaign.
Watching 270 to win, the fact that (with all that has happened) Trump has around half of the states already in the bag is a sad indictment on the current state of the US. Hopefully Kamala's endorsing helps turning the tide.
Part of the logic of going with a younger candidates is it will help in swing states that Biden previously carried, but where this time voters think he's too old. Harris will obviously also animate specific demographics that Biden may have had a bit of trouble inspiring to show up in November.
All of this energy to get Biden out, and then we get Harris. I feel punished for being a Democrat and a concerned citizen.
Man, I’m tired.
Man, I’m tired.
I'm glad that Biden finally saw sense, or at least got pushed out behind closed doors. I haven't really seem much of Kamala personally so no idea how she will go, but surely she has a better chance against Trump than Biden, and they have left it so late that really she is the only option now. Will be interesting at least to see what the Democrats actually do for their convention/candidate vote considering the primaries basically didn't happen.
At least with a female candidate, they can go hard on the abortion issue. Women against the Convicted felony who wants to take the rights to their bodies away could play out very strongly with a female lead.
At least with a female candidate, they can go hard on the abortion issue. Women against the Convicted felony who wants to take the rights to their bodies away could play out very strongly with a female lead.
That could be a good message (albeit not as strong as it was in 2022), but I’m not sure if Harris is the right messenger.
No one that I talked to today in my area (very blue) is excited about her. No one.
I don’t know how prominent the VP role is in the US. Do you think that’s based on genuine concern having seen her in action, or do you think it’s more a general impression without actually seeing her at work? I ask because I wonder if there’s any chance she surprises people.
No one was excited about Biden either, they still came out to vote.
I think she can defeat Trump.
Remains to be seen if she has had proper media training, a couple of good speeches and the tide turns.
It’s more the cognitive decline really rather than ageing. I suspect that is what he is referring to.Astonishing?
Has this guy just discovered ageing?
That’s ageing man
Does he have no grandparents? Has he never witnessed how long 8 years can be in the life of anyone over 70? Jeysus, as many people approach 80, a year can be long time.
Calling the difference between a 73 yr old man and an 81 yr old “astonishing” is hilarious, it’s as though it’s his first day on this planet.
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I agree. everyone is different, but I have seen that in close family members in less than 10 years. Others remains immutable. But astonishing is not correct at allThat’s ageing man
Does he have no grandparents? Has he never witnessed how long 8 years can be in the life of anyone over 70? Jeysus, as many people approach 80, a year can be long time.
Calling the difference between a 73 yr old man and an 81 yr old “astonishing” is hilarious, it’s as though it’s his first day on this planet.
We had the wife’s grandma come out to us in Chamonix when we lived there, fly all by herself, went everywhere with us and her mind was still brilliant.
Within 5 years from that she’d ended up in a nursing home, needed constant help with everything and eventually passed.
Pretty normal turn of events.
Will there still be a debate on September 10th? I’m guessing Trump will back out of that if it is vs Harris.
I wish it would be a warning. I prefer to die that decline too fast
That’s ageing man
Does he have no grandparents? Has he never witnessed how long 8 years can be in the life of anyone over 70? Jeysus, as many people approach 80, a year can be long time.
Calling the difference between a 73 yr old man and an 81 yr old “astonishing” is hilarious, it’s as though it’s his first day on this planet.
Are most 80 year olds trying to run for president of the USA and attempting to convince the world that mentally they're as sharp as they've ever been?