That’s the biggest load of _______ I ever heard
Number one; it’s way better than banking on him making up sentences on the fly AND recalling the details he’s talking about. Number one.
Number two escapes me at the moment.
2024 U.S. Elections | Trump v Harris
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That’s the biggest load of _______ I ever heard
Number one; it’s way better than banking on him making up sentences on the fly AND recalling the details he’s talking about. Number one.
Number two escapes me at the moment.
Bloomberg has a decent write up to give the reality of how any possible Biden bows out or replacement would work in reality. Knowing the precedents and legality can help cut down some of the hyperbole.
And most of it would be just to muddy the waters to help trump.
Then the money issue is valid. I personally didn't know that the money Biden raised can really only go to kamala. You cant just give that $212 million the Biden camp has to anyone apparently.
The part about the pre printed ballots and the laws varying state by state on changing them. That is key. If you think red states (MAGA GOP) had a field day with their false electors schemes and election fraud nonsense before. There would be so many lawsuits and conspiracies about suddenly being asked to change names. Those states in particular controlled by GOP would do everything and anything they could to not put another name on or reprint. Look at the lengths they go to to try and limit and discourage voting in general.
And most of it would be just to muddy the waters to help trump.
Then the money issue is valid. I personally didn't know that the money Biden raised can really only go to kamala. You cant just give that $212 million the Biden camp has to anyone apparently.
Newsom replacing Biden just sums out how bad US politics has become. Very unpopular in his state but he is seen as the best man for the job because he can deliver a sound bite and looks competent on TV. Maybe it's always been like this pre Obama and I just haven't been paying attention?
The Dems just need to start preparing for 2028 at this point because Trump has got this in the bag.
This is not true. As someone that lives in California, Newsom is extremely popular in Ca. He is only not popular among some loud MaGa types that hate anything to the left of Trump.
Whitmer might actually be the better option because of the Midwest factor though.
Feck you Yanks. You guys deserve this.
Unfortunately, it won't just be the yanks who suffer under Trump's 2nd term. I imagine the only people more horrified than the Dems by Biden's performance will have been Zelensky and his fellow Ukrainians.
It's true that he's unpopular, perhaps very unpopular was a bit too far. You are probably just surrounded with people who think like you.
https://www.ppic.org/publication/pp...ifornians-and-their-government-february-2024/
I see the Supreme Court's come out with some crackers today.
No need to be racist dude.
Hell, Reagan was propped up most of his second term, the country was run by his handlers & Nancy (the last two years of GHWB as well). Wouldn't be anything new in our body politic.
I can't quite believe the Dems have got themselves into this situation. It was clear for most people a year ago that Biden wasn't fit to govern. Then they hung him out to dry on National TV for the World to see his demise.
It is simply NOT an option for him to stand for re-election in any form. Trump would be a far better option than an ailing Biden.
It is simply NOT an option for him to stand for re-election in any form. Trump would be a far better option than an ailing Biden.
Why would he be a "far better" option?
i bet they’re still hosing down the shit and piss from that stage.
The election is one that has been in the margins for a while now, most every battleground state is in the margin of error.
Now will the debate debacle be enough to put Trump back in the outright lead, we shall see.
Good to hear, I was a bit puzzled by that statement and was just about to look up some polls.
Again, I'm sorry but you are utterly clueless about US politics if you REALLY believe this. Just a few keywords: abortion, SCOTUS, climate etc. Not to mention, do you think Trump would go quietly in 28?
Don't forget Project 2025.
I can't see how this could possibly age poorly.
Not the least. Jesus, Biden is horribly old and all that but another Trump term would, imo, finish off the US as we know it. Even if the only thing Biden is capable of is signing his own name his admin would make sure things are ticking along. Compare that to the incompetent extremists Trump would bring with him.
That's very methodical of you.
Yeah, it is about time the US went back to being ruled by a mad narcissistic monarch. Make America Great Again. 1770 style.
How so?
Saw the numbers. Not great, but not that bad in this climate either.
Did Luntz have a(ny) focus group(s) last night? Would be interesting to see how it went.
At worst Biden ends up too old and his VP takes over. With Trump the absolute worst is a Christian fascist dictatorship with Trump as monarch.
The first two would be the best options.
As for Michelle Obama, she won’t campaign for Biden this time around.
Exactly. One would hope most people, who are not MAGA, understand this.
She’s also irrelevant in American politics.
I'd say thinking that there will even be a 2028 election is optimistic at this point. Trump strikes me as a 'President for life' kinda guy.
To be clear, I have zero affinity for her. Clearly a younger competent popular governor who has won actual primaries and elections before (Whitmer, Pritzker, Newsom) would be a better candidate.
But that time was months ago. Right now, if this egomaniac does step down, and his replacement is not his VP, it will be ugly for the party to explain why not, and specifically why they passed over the first black woman president.
About the foriegn policy win she needs - well, from an elections perspective, with Israel the win is to strongarm Bibi by stopping all supplies, or to telling him to finish quickly by nuking Gaza and Beirut. The US public in general doesn't particularly care about Middle Eastern deaths, they want to see an end to the US president looking impotent every week, which is the case now. A visual with Harris standing next to Bibi while with "no Hamas" left, or standing next to Qatar/Egypt while celebrating some odious deal, would be an electoral winner compared to the status quo.
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Anyway, just saw that Biden and his inner circle are determined to lose, and have a second debate for our collective entertainment. Not a surprise from the egomaniac!
He was "robbed" one election, you know. He'll say he should get a third term.
Thanks!
In some ways that's the rational choice. Staying in is rational if the party believes they're going to lose anyway (blame it on Biden, don't tarnish any potential future candidates), and the second debate is rational because at worst it's going to be another disaster, while at best he's going to do better and change the narrative a little bit. Actually, Trump should probably refuse a second debate for that exact reason, but he probably won't.
Poor Gary Butthouse.