This isn't even the worst thing that's happened during a Trump campaign, he'll be fine unfortunately.
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What a joke.
Trumpism has corrupted this country.
The polls have been hopelessly gamed due to the Republicans "flooding the zone" with dubious polls. The aggregators are saying they are not weighting those polls as much as more reputable ones, but they should not be weighting them at all. The mere act of allowing that data in corrupt the results.
I think Harris will win. Trump's hardcore base loves him, but everyone else hates him. He has done nothing to make inroads into groups that shunned him in 2016 and 2020. In 2016, he faced a uniquely unlikable candidate who also had James Comey dropping the bomb on her days before the election. Trump at that time was a novelty act.
In 2020 everyone knew what Trump was all about. Biden won and built a coalition of union, blacks, etc., and despite losing some of those numbers, they are not moving in droves to Trump. Democratic registrations are up and Democratic voters outnumber the Republican ones by several million. The ground game this time far surpasses what we saw in 2020. The only indicator that this is a close race is because the dubious polls thrown into the mix.
I have never seen a product advertised with .88 at the end. Never. And when you have a $14 at the front, it actually is a dog whistle for those so inclined.
Trump 2016 had grab them by their p*** news come out few days before the elections and nothing happened. Nobody cares anymore. Post 2016, the bar is really low.
The reason they are flooding the zone with garbage polls is to sow the seeds for claiming the election was rigged. They will say "look how the polls had Trump up everywhere", and they will hoping someone less honest than Brad Raffensperger is in charge this time.
I truly believe Harris has this in the bag.
I truly believe Harris has this in the bag.
What worries me is that to come out and be blatantly racist like this infront of the whole world, they must be very confident they already have this election in the bag.
Or can the Trump campaign just not control their herd?
Agree on the polls. IDK why aggregators are allowing them in. Real Clear Politics dont weigh them.
Hope you are right re who is going to win.
Shitting on Puerto Rico could really hurt them in the next week. I hope Bad Bunny gets more vocal about it. The guy has major influence.
I think they’re not self aware about it. They do not see themselves as racist and do not hear racism when someone says what was said today.
Hillary lost because dems didn’t vote… they are certainly voting this time and he’s just pissed off a huge group of people who he needs to win.
It may be the most ironic thing in the history of his political career that the words that sink him didn’t come from his mouth.
I love that Vance tells Tapper “he wasn’t talking about Americans” with the “enemies within” comment, and then Trump comes out tonight and clarifies that yes, that’s exactly who he’s talking about.
Fecking hell, the tweets from that rally are something else. I know this has probably been said about things related to trump more than a few times, but the excerpts from this rally in particular, I’ve never seen anything like it
Jesús. What a fecking racist cnut. Nazi rally comparisons not seeming so hyperbolic now.
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How did this killer bomb, makes no sense, we must analyse the jokes.
My 270towin map was very accurate, I was really proud of it
I had a weird feeling about Georgia. We also had the flaming penis by @calodo2003 and the weird photos people kept sending to Trump on Twitter with the creepy message. Flipadelphia and four seasons.Has Tony Hinchcliffe ever been funny though? Kill Tony sucks and I’ve never laughed at him once. Bad comedians like to claim people are too sensitive at their “shocking” jokes when they should be asking is this even funny.
A madison square garden rally where the campaign goes harder than ever before on the racist and vitriolic rhetoric, talking about the enemy within, promising to use the military against politicial opponents and denigrating immigrants extensively.
I can't put my finger on it, but that sounds very familiar.
I can't put my finger on it, but that sounds very familiar.
Amazing. There are 3 million Palestinians in Jordan, living in peace, highly educated, business owners etc. Racist cnuts.
It should be the end of his political career. He just straigt up held a Nazi rally in New York using the same rethoric and talking points as the Nazis did in the same place in 1939.
The Harris campaign needs to flood all types of media with these MSG rally clips. I’m not convinced it will make a huge difference, but everyone needs to have seen it.
The bar is quite low for standup comedy these days, it seems. And there will be always be an audience of teenage boys for this kind ‘edgy’ material.
Some funny shit if Trump's campaign bombs because of things other people said at his rally.
Hey I know one candidate just held a literal Nazi rally where speakers promised to cleanse the bloodlines and purify America, but has anyone seen how stiff Harris' answers on the economy are?
I'm still on the fence. Think I just need to do some of my own research.
FFS.
I'm still on the fence. Think I just need to do some of my own research.
FFS.
The same was said in not many different words here by people who probably describe themselves as very anti-Trump. Racism against Palestinians and Arabs is hardly exclusive to the MAGA crowd.
And usually, the argument is that there won't be much difference.
That’s the thing with Trump. I wouldn’t have that much of a problem with him individually (given the options and political context)…I think the Trump who spent a few hours on Rogan’s podcast the other day is essentially him. The main problem I’d have is with his acolytes and there’s a well represented assortment of nut-bags there.
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As with many Trump issues, the problem is saying the quiet part loud.
I mean….multiple people have said the same here, including people that would class themselves as democrat/ labour voters.
More importantly, I think at this point beyond a few nutters, few think they’ll be better for the palestinians. More that the difference between the two parties on the conflict is relatively negligible , in terms of the eventual end effect on the ground . In that circumstance, even with the fascistic tendencies of the orange scum, they’re more likely to then decide to vote on domestic issues that matter to them. And as generally conservative Muslims/ Christians, they’ll have certain views on , for instance , LGBT issues which are more in line with the GOP than democrats.
The fact that a large portion of the MAGA base would probably deport them tomorrow if given the chance is just left by the wayside through cognitive dissonance I imagine.
Didn't he try and steal the last election?
I've never heard of a campaign rally where speakers and their speeches weren't vetted beforehand. For something this big, everyone will have to have sent in their stuff to the Trump Campaign for approval. Everything followed the same theme too, so it wasn't exactly out of left field.
It's hilarious watching Republicans backtracking on what Hinchcliffe said...he seems to have made the mistake of singling out a single country rather than keeping to the Trump script of just calling out "They...."
Replace the word "they" in Trump's speeches with any nation or specific racial/religious group and it shows it for the racist dog whistle that it clearly is.
Whatever your opinions on Trump not actually being a fascist, or being a shock jockey with no real implementation abilities, I think it's pretty evident that 4 years of him in a final term could easily pave the way for an actual functioning fascist. America seems pretty ripe for it at this point, to the level where I don't think the stuff coming out of that rally will make an iota of difference.
He should resign. It wouldn't have been acceptable at a "normal" rally but at this hate fest it's ridiculous for him to continue. Being in NYC and such, I think he might feel the pressure.
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