And what prevents this same thing from happening in 2 weeks time ?
2021 American Civil War
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16? Jeezus.
You've got to be a heartless prick to think she deserved it.
You've got to be a heartless prick to think she deserved it.
I don't think causing it to happen now because it could happen anyway in two weeks time is a sensible plan.
Why are they tragic? They are simply the result of poor decisions.
You can’t absolve people of their poor decision making. Poor decisions have consequences, even ultimate consequences.
It’s not like these results would have happened out of the blue.
Stolen from elsewhere but it's a wonderful contrast.
Trump Day 1...
Trump Day 1448...
Trump Day 1...
Trump Day 1448...
The most unsurprising and yet interesting thing about this is how loads of the participants are wearing very expensive tactical gear (armour, boots, gloves, helmets etc), and yet they were so disorganised. Shows you the real hardliners who are training consistently haven't shown up yet, and also that the death of that woman is going to raise the stakes in the future.
Interesting times.
Interesting times.
It’s disappointing that she was 16.
She wasn’t an innocent bystander in these proceedings, however.
She wasn’t an innocent bystander in these proceedings, however.
That was my first thought.
Why this won't happen two weeks from now when he gets removed?
Let's not forget that he (in a metaphorical way) has still the codes to the nuclear weapons. Among other things.
Banned for 12 hours? 
I got longer for calling Piers Morgan a fake photo publishing, phone hacking cnut.
I got longer for calling Piers Morgan a fake photo publishing, phone hacking cnut.
100%. An adult with full agency is one thing but a 16 year old is a kid.
Are there any reports on who fired the shot?
People do a lot of stupid shit at 16, now her life is over and she won't ever be able to make up for it.
Most likely she was radicalised by her family.
Also wtf was a 16 year old doing there? If her parents were there they should be charged with endangerment.
Already responded to the first point above.
I don't believe there is any chance him ordering a nuclear strike would be followed, to be honest. What I do find quite possible is that they are unable to convince him not to address the nation calling for armed insurrection. That would be the moment Pence should bite the bullet, try the 25th thing, and immediately flee the country.
Dude, these people believe that dipshit won in a landslide, and just stormed the fecking capitol building. They do what he tells them. The reason for removing him is to prevent or at least delay any further destruction of democracy that he can do from office. And to actually have a functioning president for the next two weeks.
Then they are as much to blame for the incident as she was.
Let’s not try to spin this solely on her age.
Again, if she wasn’t on the tip of the spear of the front line to this, she might not have been shot.
StrikingStolen from elsewhere but it's a wonderful contrast.
Trump Day 1...
Trump Day 1448...
Kyle Rittenhouse was 17.
Hopefully both sets of parents get charged if it is proven they enabled such behavior.
Yep.
Can't say I'd have been stupid enough to be part of this sort of protest when I was 16 but if I had been I would definitely have been stupid enough to then follow the crowd of adult protestors as they entered the building. Especially in a situation where a lot of the police response around me suggested a less-than-life-threatening situation.
Adults should have the capacity not to get caught up in such reckless stupidity. We rightly don't hold 16 year olds to that same standard though.
@calodo2003 got banned for longer!Banned for 12 hours?
I got longer for calling Piers Morgan a fake photo publishing, phone hacking cnut.
Some Capitol policeman who normally deals with dumb tourists going in the wrong door is tonight dealing with the fact that he shot and killed a 16 year-old kid.
Ted Cruz and co. have a lot to answer for.
Ted Cruz and co. have a lot to answer for.
From the video I saw it looked like it could pretty much only have been Law Enforcement. She tries to jump in as the photo above shows, and at that instant you hear a gunshot and she falls back.
As I say, I think you'd be condemning that functioning president to dealing with far more turmoil than we've yet seen. When there remains a decent chance that tonight is as bad as things get in the short term.
EDIT - By short term I'm including Biden being sworn in. I don't think it's at all certain that things will be worse then than today.
Cavani is banned for longer.Banned for 12 hours?
I got longer for calling Piers Morgan a fake photo publishing, phone hacking cnut.
I do wonder how many times I've heard this the last four years.
Yet, even at 16, one knows not to engage directly against an armed police officer while commuting a crime.
Especially in this day & age.
Oh do give it a rest. Next you'll try and portray her as some kind of modern day Hitler Youth leader.
You all really need to find out how so many of you see each other as less than human. Trump is ultimately responsible but his supporters have been so ready to take up his cause. Why do they hate you all so much and vice versa? You need to find common ground and build on it otherwise it won't just end on the 20th January.
In fairness, it's probably a bit confusing when the police have let you in and posed for selfies with you when one of them decides to shoot you in the face.
Greedo..no Han..Ohh.
Just 1 person dead is impressive .. I thought these guys were pretty trigger happy.
You've said what you have to say multiple times. Can you shut it already.
I'm guessing we do at least agree that there's no chance Pence is actually gonna try it at this point?
They left their triggers home.
Is it confirmed she's 16?
In such black swan events you cant really assume a whole lot. Next 24 hours are pretty unpredictable.
If you are lone maybe. If you are part of a mob that had been allowed to enter till that far inside the building, you don't think it will happen...actually she was the only one
She didn't deserve it bc her age, what her parents deserve is directly proportional to their resposability in her radicalization and dumbfeckery
Banned for 12 hours?
I got longer for calling Piers Morgan a fake photo publishing, phone hacking cnut.
I got banned for 18 hours on Facebook for saying "nice arse"
No, but she could very well be a part of a similar movement in my country.
Where do you live? Don’t think you live here, do you? Do you see the left doing shit like today? You have a somewhat skewed prism through which you are viewing the situation
These people operate in alternative fact land. This basically negates any ability to create a meaningful dialogue with them as there is no shared sense of reality.
This isn’t just a ‘Johnny Come Lately’ thing, this has existed for decades on the right. It’s started to boil over in recent decades due to the fusion of the delusion of evangelical religion with the abject racism & fascist creep. Stop trying to classify these people as rational or willing to compromise. We’ve seen this for decades. It’s nothing new. It’s just very acute now.