For fecks sake, before you all start clutching your pearls just look at the percentages reported in key counties, particularly suburbs and cities. It’s not all doom and gloom.
2020 US Elections | Biden certified as President | Dems control Congress
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This isn't surprising though. Everyone thought she was going to have a cakewalk after she won the primary. It seriously is a bad sign but one we knew about for months at least.
Demoralized, but not shocked.
Ohio down to 49.5 - 49.2
Will end at least 55 for Trump
In Ohio, say CNN, the proportion of early/mail-in votes to be counted will rise as the night progresses - which favours Biden.
Given republicans track record does anyone actually believe this is a free and fair election ?
?Has any state counted their absentee ballots yet?
Typically it's the other way around.
The Electoral College massively helps Republicans.
All going downhill. Boggles the mind.
Most of the Michigan numbers are not from the early vote apparently (which will probably favor the Dems).
Trump basically needs one of PA, MI, or WI
Surely there's no come back for pollsters after this?
Given republicans track record does anyone actually believe this is a free and fair election
Yes. As fair as the previous ones.
People here don't want to concede that a lot of the population has different priorities than them.
Maybe, but as of now, even a small change in votes counted percentage is leading to huge shift towards Trump.
Barely...
Yeah, Trump got this.
I've just woken up. Still catching up, but I'm confused. It obviously looks like Trump is winning Florida, but Biden is ahead in the Rust Belt - why is Trump therefore now massively the favourite on betting websites?!
He doesn't need Arizona if he takes Michigan, Wisconsin and PA from Trump. But he needs all 3.
Don't know if those people should has votes though when they don't let other's has votes.
It's the other way round. The elector college votes assigned to each state are not proportional with their population. Consequently, smaller states have relatively many of those votes, and a lot more of those vote Republican (a lot of the midwest and the north). It is very unlikely to ever see a Democratic president that won despite a Republican majority in the popular vote, while we have already seen the opposite a few times, and this time again (if Trump would win). If the US would work hard on enabling everyone to vote and had a proportional system, the Republicans would never win again - but in practice, it's the other way round.
There's always is.
Polls in the lead up to election are fair play. Inundating the thread with betting odds tweets while the actual election is taking place is a bit over the top. There's probably a thread for that elsewhere.
Hard to see past Trump now 
No, Trump needs ALL of those and to not lose OH, AZ or GA. Will people please calm the feck down.
Better off looking at the markets than the betting odds tbh.
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He will just say that they gave him 11% chance of winning - and didn't say he won't win.
Trump is 2/5 on sky bet. I would say it's over
Haven't a clue on how US elections work, though there’s a big betting odds swing in favour of Trump here.
But at 74% called and a rising lead, it may be too late then to pull it back?
I would check with the bet makers. They seem to know more than most.
No? He can afford to lose 2 of them if he keeps everything else.
I think it's more accurate to say the Republicans would need to reinvent themselves in that case. Saying they would never win again is a bit silly - they'd never win in their current guise, with their current focus.
Guys like Kentonio says chill the feck out you are making this unbearable
Makes sense. Seems like Democrats need to breach into Republican swing states. Interesting stuff.
Trump is winning GA and the likely winner in OH.
AZ is Biden's last hope for a clean win.
Ridiculous country. Deserves all it gets.
Off to bed.
Off to bed.
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