2020 US Elections | Biden certified as President | Dems control Congress
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It is very annoying how often these points come up.
I can't believe they arrested that poor man, where's the tolerance for voter fraudsters??
Where's the justice for the dead? Why can't they vote?
Wow, looks so much like her mom.
Seems to be so many UK brexiteers suddenly desperate for Trump to win who think Biden is a hard left socialist loon 
Peace?
I tend to keep up on armed international conflicts, did I miss one that was currently occurring?
Seems like there might be armed conflict happening much closer to Israel’s borders that could be worked on with a bit more intensity & focus.
Certainly have been a few to pop their ahead above the parapet today.Seems to be so many UK brexiteers suddenly desperate for Trump to win who think Biden is a hard left socialist loon
Not sure if you can see this but Voter Suppression is a thing here in Louisiana (Red state) happened to a friend, so Trump banging on about voter fraud only due to blue states is shock, horror the opposite.
I'm in winding down mode now for the most part, hence posting less. What's done is done, now I just await outcomes.
A couple of little tidbits -
1) My best friend is from Miami (she actually studies law in Chicago now, but apparently as she used to live in Miami she's registered there and you can kinda pick if you move around... seems weird but ok) - Has some faith, runs an intersectional bible study whatever that is. One assumes to study the bible. Anyway, she's pretty worried about the 'shy' trump vote - apparently a lot of people aren't talking about it, but are admitting it in bible group etc. Perhaps not a typical demographic for 18-35 religious people. I tried to reassure her that the 'shy trump' vote is probably weighted correctly for the most part, but it's hard to convince people. Also completely convinced that Trump would be willing to take the country to the brink to stay in power. (This may or may not be the view of the average american midwest [from Iowa, Florida resident and now in Illinois] 30yo white female, but it was striking how convinced she is that Trump has a big shot and that everybody in her hometown and back 'home' in Florida was willing to vote for him.) That's perhaps a big sector of the population that would buy the take that he "won," and give some sort of legitimacy to the wave of bullshit he's gonna unleash post election.
2) I've been doing some play modeling really wrt turnout. I don't really write articles but may post some pretty graphs later. I suspect that pollsters, even good pollsters like Monmouth are incorrectly weighting the 18-35 turnout. Many use "18-49" and that's just not enough granularity for my liking. Generally pollsters struggle to get the '18-30' part of the '18-49' on the phone. With the recent extreme high voting applications, the hypothesis that youth turnout may be far higher than expected may be solid. If this is correct, it's gonna be a landslide. Could even be 55 senate seats.
3) I really dislike Kamala Harris. I don't get what she adds to the ticket.
A couple of little tidbits -
1) My best friend is from Miami (she actually studies law in Chicago now, but apparently as she used to live in Miami she's registered there and you can kinda pick if you move around... seems weird but ok) - Has some faith, runs an intersectional bible study whatever that is. One assumes to study the bible. Anyway, she's pretty worried about the 'shy' trump vote - apparently a lot of people aren't talking about it, but are admitting it in bible group etc. Perhaps not a typical demographic for 18-35 religious people. I tried to reassure her that the 'shy trump' vote is probably weighted correctly for the most part, but it's hard to convince people. Also completely convinced that Trump would be willing to take the country to the brink to stay in power. (This may or may not be the view of the average american midwest [from Iowa, Florida resident and now in Illinois] 30yo white female, but it was striking how convinced she is that Trump has a big shot and that everybody in her hometown and back 'home' in Florida was willing to vote for him.) That's perhaps a big sector of the population that would buy the take that he "won," and give some sort of legitimacy to the wave of bullshit he's gonna unleash post election.
2) I've been doing some play modeling really wrt turnout. I don't really write articles but may post some pretty graphs later. I suspect that pollsters, even good pollsters like Monmouth are incorrectly weighting the 18-35 turnout. Many use "18-49" and that's just not enough granularity for my liking. Generally pollsters struggle to get the '18-30' part of the '18-49' on the phone. With the recent extreme high voting applications, the hypothesis that youth turnout may be far higher than expected may be solid. If this is correct, it's gonna be a landslide. Could even be 55 senate seats.
3) I really dislike Kamala Harris. I don't get what she adds to the ticket.
what's so bad about Kamala Harris? The point about youth turnout is interesting, am a bit skeptical that young folks will vote in greater numbers for one of two old men but one can dream.
The thing that bugs me is that it really is a turnout game. Get people voting/make it easier and the GOP will never win a general election again.
I just don't like her haha. She seems a very much 'right' of centre. Ex prosecutor and now career politician. It was never going to happen, but I was plumping for Warren or somebody to really shake things up. That said, Biden is likely to be a one term president, so good shot he tries to make an impact. Hope so, because I don't think Kamala Harris will.
There's some evidence that the young vote is more motivated than usual to vote, simply to get rid of Trump. I doubt they overly love Biden.
Furthermore there's some evidence that the likes of Taylor Swift and Ariana Grande (there's a theory she crashed Florida's registration site after tweeting) directly engaging with young fans is having far more of an impact than in the past, framing the election as an existential matter for them. Whether those registrations turn into votes, who knows. Regardless, I don't think the polls account for it well.
If Biden is elected and is a one-term President, the Democratic primaries for 2024 will be ridiculously competitive. A completely new generation of politicians will be standing.
Hopefully that will be for the good of the party.
It’ll be a Ginsberg like situation. Everyone knows he should stand down and let the fresh blood in but he will stick it out and lose against whatever the GOP put up (defeated with the help of the Lincoln Project of course)
Yep totally neutral...
Civil was is never a good thing. This is the perfect storm for them, they need to spend 4 years getting shit done first. Structurally that is, not pissing around with Medicare and climate change (yes these are important but also easy for the gop to roll back without structural change)
Statehood for DC and Puerto Rico should be top of the ticket.
Don’t disagree with what you are saying, but if there ever was a time to make a reset & lower the average age of those Democrats who are vying for upper office by a decade at minimum, 2024 would be it. I am in the centrist camp of the party, but it’s probably past time to blood in some new, much younger members than we see now. We would obviously see more progressive elements come more to the forefront & I am not against that. We saw some glimpse of such during the debates, that was somewhat heartening. If we see the substantial increase in younger voting this election like we should, that can’t be discarded in 2024.
But, then again, we will be running against a party that is typically more unified than us & a civil war might not be prudent. But, let’s get Biden in first then worry about it then.
I would happily take any bet today that if (please) Biden wins he will step down in 4 years. I cannot imagine a situation outside of actual world war whereby he'd stay. I really don't think he wants to be there right now, much less when he's going on 82.
Priority for week after next is to show the world that the US is not a complete baketcase, and can still function. Priority for 4 years later is to produce and win with a far more progressive candidate, imo.
Priority for week after next is to show the world that the US is not a complete baketcase, and can still function. Priority for 4 years later is to produce and win with a far more progressive candidate, imo.
What is the long term goal of the Lincoln Project, by your read?
It's more like rooting for Jar Jar Binks to become the emperor of the Galactic Republic. Although he'll cause some pain within the confines of empire itself, it'll result in the weakening its institutions and the galaxy as a whole will benefit in the long run.
The only worry is that he'll have his finger on the button of the Deathstar for the next 4 years.
I have a general rule, which is that if someone uses the word "snowflake" unironically as a pejorative then they're a stupid cnut.
Based on this post alone, I suspect it's very likely that you're the type of person who uses the word "snowflake" unironically as a pejorative.
I could do a quick search of your posts to find out. But if I knew for sure that you were that type of person then this post would basically just be an elaborate way of calling you a stupid cnut over and over again. Which obviously I wouldn't do given that insulting posters is frowned upon, even when they absolutely are stupid cnuts.
Whereas if I don't search then even I don't know if I'm saying you're a stupid cnut. As long as I don't look it's both true and untrue, like Schroedinger's cat except instead of a cat there's you and you might be a stupid cnut.
Not sure what you’re getting at here, could you elaborate for clarity purposes?
Good to see this fashy Hitler Youthite stay true to his roots...
Edit - the ‘non-white males’ phrase has been removed from the website, the campaign citing a ‘syntax error.’ That’s certainly one way to describe racism.
Edit - the ‘non-white males’ phrase has been removed from the website, the campaign citing a ‘syntax error.’ That’s certainly one way to describe racism.
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Yikes.
Trump is a disgusting racist and his fanbase is made up primarily of racists, sexists , homophobes and morons. It would be a complete disaster if he won again.
Biden isn't a candidate to get excited over but fecking hell when the other option is Trump there should be no debate on who should win.
That Moderna contract sure has some Dick Cheney energy task force vibes to it.
But, Chris Pratt was called names. Can’t you see the double standard?!?
Pfft come on guys, we don't live in America therefore we aren't qualified to say if those are all bad things.
Local reporting on this incident included:
The rest of the message is too graphic to detail, but claims that they will allegedly beat Biden and sodomize Harris before executing them on national television.
But, yeah, Chris Pratt was called bad names on Twitter.
Partial view of the note:
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Yeah you're right. Maybe I went too far.
Racism and sexism and trying to take away medical care from millions of people who desperately need it, lying and downplaying how serious Covid was to try and protect the stock markets leading to hundreds of thousands of Americans dying, giving out tacit endorsements to fascist groups like the Proud boys and QAnon and hundreds of other disgraceful disgusting illegal things Trump has done in the last 4 years is all bad
But hypocrisy from the left wing is the real crime here
Especially when viewed by a ‘neutral.’Yeah you're right. Maybe I went too far.
Racism and sexism and trying to take away medical care from millions of people who desperately need it, lying and downplaying how serious Covid was to try and protect the stock markets leading to hundreds of thousands of Americans dying, giving out tacit endorsements to fascist groups like the Proud boys and QAnon and hundreds of other disgraceful disgusting illegal things Trump has done in the last 4 years is all bad
But hypocrisy from the left wing is the real crime here
Reckon more than half of Ariana and Taylor's demographics are not even voting age.
Celebrity endorsements hardly matter imo. Cardi B and Ariana Grande championed Sanders cause too.
Check out the screen shot of the note that was left in a Biden / Harris supporters yard in the post I made a few back. This is not the first kidnap / execution plot uncovered so far, nor is this view of armed conflict against the libs a new concept that just sprouted up in the past few weeks. These are deep seeded psychoses that inhabit the brain of a large swath of the right wing.
Outright civil war might be a stretch in terminology, but armed insurrection on a broad scale isn’t out of the realm of possible.
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