Thank god that’s over.
2020 US Elections | Biden certified as President | Dems control Congress
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Watched a bit of this, hoped for more entertainment 
Pretty sure I've done similar to that.
George Stephanopoulos at the end - "two white men in their 70s.. " 
Good for you, now let's not go about using Norway as an example for other countries to follow as a "real first world country".
Same for UAE, Saudis, Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait who all have very generous social programs for their citizens.
We can discuss how Sweden or other countries have gotten to universal healthcare in a separate thread. It is not an alien concept to me having lived in Switzerland and Netherlands, and having spent substantial time in both the UK and Singapore (so 4 of those 32 countries) and having moved to the US last. As it gets very evident, simple solutions don't work for a country with 350m people.
Mine’s going fine. I’m glad the debate wasn’t a shit show. That was an awful convo I had to have with my students the day after the first one, many of whom had just watched their first presidential debate.
The USA , I mean World, is fecked...
This other dude: "Trump actually had a theme at times!"George Stephanopoulos at the end - "two white men in their 70s.. "
That's the bar. It's on the floor.
What was the gist of how your students felt about the first debate?
The other poster was clearly talking about copying a real "first world country" in Norway but clearly jumping to your talking points without reading is your strong suit.
It is blindingly obvious as I wrote in my OP that the Norwegian or Saudi social system is not one other countries can follow.
“Is it supposed to look like a middle school fight?”
When can we expect the snap poll?
Yeah, it seemed way calmer tonight. Don't think it was just the rule change. I think neither of them really came looking for drama. Hopefully they bored the twelve undecideds who watch these things to death and the polls don't shift.
What did you tell them?
There’s hope for the kids yet.
Yup. And with the courts and everything else going on still we ll be there for another generation probably.
I’m sorry but I don’t trust the floating voters not to use Biden’s stutter against him as portrayed by the Republicans and I don’t trust them not to listen to Trump’s lies and fall for them again.
I think it’s a massive toss up but Trump always gets away with it.
They’re going to spread fear intensely on the oil industry thing.
I was so happy when Biden finally responded with ‘we had a Republican Congress’ but he could’ve expanded by slamming McConnell and co.
I think it’s a massive toss up but Trump always gets away with it.
They’re going to spread fear intensely on the oil industry thing.
I was so happy when Biden finally responded with ‘we had a Republican Congress’ but he could’ve expanded by slamming McConnell and co.
Fluent in Fox News is the line of the night.
Worth the licence fee alone
Worth the licence fee alone
That it didn’t used to be that way but that that means it can change and be fixed.
Imagine if Ass Juice Santorum was still in politics today. He'd have been a slimey kissass like Cruz and Gymbo.
Why wouldn't they? The US spends more on healthcare per capita than pretty much every country with universal coverage. Surely it's possible to get a better system for less money regardless of population when the current system is as broken as it is?
Biden seems to lose his trail of thought a lot. You wouldn’t think there’s only three year’s difference between them.
I wish someone would ask him about if Jesus’ family was put in cages and separated when they fled to Egypt to escape Herod.
Nothing moved the needle tonight. Pretty safe now to predict that Biden is going to win.
I think he did far better than I expected and wiped the floor with a docile Trump unallowed to tantrum who was forced to listen to an opponent get fair speaking time.
I’ll take a potential loss of train of thought vs. abject ignorance on almost every topic.
Biden stated outright that he's shutting down the oil industry. Will this swing the election in Trump's favour?
Is this your post to try to go back to back as the WUM winner?
It’s a statement that is going to dominate the airwaves for a good while I think.
Don’t think anyone was expecting it, least of all Biden.
The worst part is anyone with half a brain knows what’s going on and that the oil/fossil fuel industries have held everyone hostage to get money whilst knowing all about the impending crisis and they know we can’t rely on oil forever and yet because it’s such a big statement it’ll be twisted and turned and lost and the floaters will get scared and vote for Trump or not vote at all. Like he said, Texas, Pennsylvania, Ohio, they were watching.
Oil is an important industry, especially in some of the swing states. Republican pundits are thrilled that Biden said it.
FBI could have some fun again. There's time left.
Lots of complex structural and systematic issues.
Let's try to solve one of them. One of the big issues in the US healthcare system is that the US pays 3.7x for the same drugs as compared to the EU (and UK, Norway). How do you propose to fix this?
GM just announced an all electric Hummer going 0-60 in 3 secs. Here in MI the big three are investing billions building, expanding and retooling massive factories to crank out electric vehicles. Its also not like the oil industry s been cruising since Covid hit so from a voter perspective now may be the least controversial time to make that statement. Imho anyway.
If Biden had been on the ball enough he’d have mentioned Tesla factories running on solar power and touted it as the future.
There were genuinely times when Trump's tactics actually seemed to unsettle Biden, specifically the cages comment, and Trump's speaking was often clearer (never mind that what he said was just the usual ad hominem and unsubstantiated claims- you know what to expect by now).
So uninspiring and somewhat depressing. Got a bad feeling about this but i hope i'm wrong.
So uninspiring and somewhat depressing. Got a bad feeling about this but i hope i'm wrong.
For feck sake, Biden's an ex VP 2x and presidential nominee, an 80+ years old politician veteran and he looks abit more mature?
That's scarry reality
Collective bargaining? The exact way the rest of the world has fixed it!?
He said he would transition the oil industry, which, judging by all the Exxon commercials I see of them promoting themselves as an “energy” company and touting their research in renewable energy, is something that the oil industry is already doing anyway.
VW's new EV ID.4 is having monster sales in the first month after launch. EV is here from all manufacturers. This won't even be a debate topic in a decade.
Good pt - forgot to include that in my comment.
Sorry? I would think you are the one interpreting a general point about the ability of OECD countries ('first world' in @Red Stone's post) to provide universal healthcare for a point about oil countries giving it large. You can't just decide that a discussion can now only be about one aspect of an ambiguous post, that's ridiculous.
Also, speaking of misrepresentation, you didn't wrote an OP, you responded to @Red Stone who responded to @nimic, who started the conversation. And I would appreciate less ad hominem and more substance, if you could.
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