2020 US Elections | Biden certified as President | Dems control Congress

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Just sad.



So... I hate the orange one as much as anyone, but I don’t think this is what she thinks it is. I got the same mailer here in WI and I did not request an absentee ballot as I am already registered for one. I just think his campaign is mass mailing those out, unsolicited to everyone, so his supporters request an absentee ballot.
 
So... I hate the orange one as much as anyone, but I don’t think this is what she thinks it is. I got the same mailer here in WI and I did not request an absentee ballot as I am already registered for one. I just think his campaign is mass mailing those out, unsolicited to everyone, so his supporters request an absentee ballot.

I hope you're right. It would be a dirty trick of epic proportions if everyone in certain states received them this way.
 
It’s a fixed comic. The original had Trump on the bike. But this version is the truth.
Cheers. It makes just a bit more sense now. Oh and yes completely agree with you!

One of the many downsides to Bernie not winning was we never got to see the insane conservative reaction. :(
 
Cheers. It makes just a bit more sense now. Oh and yes completely agree with you!

One of the many downsides to Bernie not winning was we never got to see the insane conservative reaction. :(
I don’t know about where you live but according to Republican mailers I receive* Bernie is consistently invoked as someone of the “far left” who has taken over Biden’s campaign and the Democratic Party. And aa with many things coming from Republican rhetoric, they make it seem way better than the reality of the matter.
 
Is This the Secret to Selling Joe Biden?
Young people aren’t particularly excited about Joe Biden. One strategy to change their mind? Convince them that they’re voting for a big, progressive crew.


In May, NextGen announced it planned to spend $45 million to help Biden beat Trump. To see what messages might resonate with young voters, Wessel and his colleagues turned to Global Strategy Group, a polling firm they often work with.
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He came up with what NextGen now calls “the Democratic Avengers,” after the Marvel movie featuring an ensemble of superheroes. The idea is that by voting for Biden, you’re voting not just for him; you’re voting for all of the Democrats—many of them cool and hip!—that Biden will have in his orbit. Biden might borrow policies from Warren, for example, or have Sanders as an adviser. “If he is elected, it won’t just be Joe Biden,” this message reads. “Biden has pledged to build an administration filled with progressive leaders, experts, and activists from inside and outside of politics.”

This idea went over really well, according to Wessel and Baumann.

 
Reads like it was written by Alex Jones.
Or the House of Cards team. They pull a similar kind of stunt to keep Stacey in White House when the election win is in doubt. Won't be the first time House of Cards turns out to be prophetic instead of as over the top/insane as the writers intended...
 

There's a world where I can go to bed on November 3rd seeing Biden ahead in Florida, and therefore safe.

But that's the same world where United were winning 3-0 in 15 minutes against Leicester on the last day of the season. It's a lovely, imaginary one that certainly in 2020 doesn't pan out.

Good for Bloomberg to do something with all that cash though. He's probably made well more than 100m with just the last 4 months market recoveries.
 
This is vast becoming the new home for the so-called moderate Republicans. No wonder Bernie seemed concerned.
 
Who cares what he wants? There are bigger issues here at stake, like stopping Trump.
Besides, Bloomberg fecking hates Trump.

I agree, the most important thing that happens right now is that Trump and his crooks and enablers are eradicated. There’s nothing wrong with reflecting on and morning the fact the Overton Window has been dragged way over to the right so the likes of Biden and Bloomberg are viewed as liberal saviours.
 
I agree, the most important thing that happens right now is that Trump and his crooks and enablers are eradicated. There’s nothing wrong with reflecting on and morning the fact the Overton Window has been dragged way over to the right so the likes of Biden and Bloomberg are viewed as liberal saviours.

Absolutely agree, but right now it (to quote the fat orange feck) «is what it is».
 


Earlier this week this was discovered:



It was fixed the next day. But it appears that Biden is continuing with his successful strategy from the primary - not really running a campaign.
 
Quite. The US being democratic didn't much help the peoples in South America, Africa and Asia who felt the burden of Amercan realpolitik.

If you want to use historical references then try seeing how Nazi Germany or the USSR would’ve fared as the dominant superpowers over the past 70 years.
 
I know when I have my house bombed and myfamily killed, I'd much rather it be from an American bomb than a Chinese or Russian one because at least the bomb was democratic.
 
Try it with Russia and China as the world’s police and you’ll see the difference.
That’s a pretty low bar and doesn’t change the fact that the US have done a shite job “policing the world” and have caused far more problems than they’ve solved.

Also, going back to the original point, increased military spending is the absolute last thing the country needs.
 
That’s a pretty low bar and doesn’t change the fact that the US have done a shite job “policing the world” and have caused far more problems than they’ve solved.

Also, going back to the original point, increased military spending is the absolute last thing the country needs.

Its the only bar there is given the three options in the world at the moment.

I agree to an extent on the 2nd point, although there are areas that need more investment which can possibly be balanced out in other areas. The US could also make a lot of money by selling arms it doesn't use or need to other countries, but that would open another can of worms in terms of selling weapons to the likes of the Saudis and others who may actually use them to start wars. Ultimately, the amount of money we need to reinvest in our own country can't be found in the DoD budget since its too small relative to the cost of policies like M4A, Green New Deal etc. That has to come from taxing the wealthy more and closing all corporate tax loop holes (imo).
 
I know when I have my house bombed and myfamily killed, I'd much rather it be from an American bomb than a Chinese or Russian one because at least the bomb was democratic.

That's very gratifying to know. But it doesn't address the reality of living in a world where there are democracies and one ostensibly ruled by autocracy, which is implicit in having a world where one of Russia or China are the only ones in charge, or going back historically, one where either the Nazis or Soviets were running the world. I believe there was a war fought to prevent this about 75 years ago.
 
That's very gratifying to know. But it doesn't address the reality of living in a world where there are democracies and one ostensibly ruled by autocracy, which is implicit in having a world where one of Russia or China are the only ones in charge, or going back historically, one where either the Nazis or Soviets were running the world. I believe there was a war fought to prevent this about 75 years ago.
None of that is an excuse for atrocities the US is directly and/or indirectly responsible for.
 
None of that is an excuse for atrocities the US is directly and/or indirectly responsible for.

It certainly isn't, but it also wouldn't preclude far worse things happening if the other two were running the show unchecked. There are some benefits of having a multi-polar world in that instead of fighting nuclear wars, superpowers are constantly balancing against one another to prevent the other from gaining a disproportionate advantage, which ties back into why states like the US are not going to reduce their defense budgets at a time when the other two are expanding militaries, technology bases, and spheres of influence.
 
Why don't they use the ones CNN uses for "school shootings"?
 
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If you want to use historical references then try seeing how Nazi Germany or the USSR would’ve fared as the dominant superpowers over the past 70 years.

Nazi Germany is an absurd example, considering the greatest effort in defeating them was made by your other example. And while the Soviet Union was a totalitarian imperialist state, particularly in Europe, they were almost certainly responsible for fewer coups and dictators in the third world than the US during the Cold War.

Let's use Russia as a more current example. They're authoritarian, and their undeclared war with Ukraine is illegal and morally disgusting, but US foreign policy is still responsible for far more death and destruction during the last 20 years, despite being a democracy.
 
Nazi Germany is an absurd example, considering the greatest effort in defeating them was made by your other example. And while the Soviet Union was a totalitarian imperialist state, particularly in Europe, they were almost certainly responsible for fewer coups and dictators in the third world than the US during the Cold War.

Let's use Russia as a more current example. They're authoritarian, and their undeclared war with Ukraine is illegal and morally disgusting, but US foreign policy is still responsible for far more death and destruction during the last 20 years, despite being a democracy.

Well it would've been one of the two assuming the Nazis prevailed. The bit about the Soviets in the cold war wouldn't of course apply if they had a blank canvas to do as they pleased as the world's only superpower with nukes for the past 70 years.
 
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