Biden is going to feck up more and more by exposing himself the more he talks. The Obamas are going to have to campaign on his ticket's behalf to make sure black voters in America turn out to vote or do mail in votes. If Biden keeps stumbling around, he's making his election that much harder and easier for Trump to attack him and deflect on any real issues worth debating about.
2020 US Elections | Biden certified as President | Dems control Congress
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It was a dumb comment that he apologized for and is not going to cost him anything no matter how much of a frenzy people who dislike will try and whip up .
It is not going to make black people who vote for him change their minds and vote Trump plus the fact he said sorry distinguishes himself from Trump
It is not going to make black people who vote for him change their minds and vote Trump plus the fact he said sorry distinguishes himself from Trump
Spot on. Its the online food fight of the day, that will probably fade into obscurity just as all the other things that were supposed to have harmed Biden's campaign have.
It appears some people really don’t understand what odds mean. Just because a 1/10 bet comes in, it doesn’t mean that it wasn’t really 1/10. If you get hit by lightning it doesn’t mean that getting hit by lightning is actually very common.
As for Biden, this was completely predictable. He makes stupid unnecessary gaffes constantly, and there’ll be plenty more before November.
Or these chances were off since they built a lot upon the polls that aren't accurate.
It would actually be interesting to compare the poll standings from 216 during the same time to those right now, but I definitely remember Hillary being clearly ahead in them.
Issue with polls and Trump is that lots of his voters weren't comfortable telling pollsters they support him. In 2016 anyway. Maybe that's different now.
I think another issue for current polls is modeling voter turnout as its hard to know what will happen with mail votes in areas not accustomed to them and what the status of cv19 will be at the time and how that will impact
Biden simply said what he believes in.
He is a racist as well as a rapist.
He is a racist as well as a rapist.
May be anecdotal but I have some more white people outraged by Biden's gaffe than Black folks.
Is Joe Biden even a real person? Surely he's an actor and this whole election thing is a joke? This is like trying to get a goal back in the dying seconds of the game and subbing in Lovren. Or some other shit player who doesnt score goals. Im bad at analogies 
But probably better than Biden.
But probably better than Biden.
That's not good analogy for political polls and 2016.
That wasn't a roll of the dice that ended up deuces. It was the result of a couple of factors we can investigate in hindsight. We have single digit response polls that systematically undercount Trump supporter turnout:
"The risks of “coming out” as a Republican, or worse as a Trump supporter, can be severe. As a result, many conservatives simply keep their mouths shut and remain quiet about their political views. Then on voting day, these same conservatives show up at the polls and pull the lever for Republican candidates. Fear of stigma has likely a driving factor behind Republican voters misleading not only their friends and relatives, but pollsters as well. Considering invective against Trump and his supporters, why would you tell a pollster from a partisan press how you truly felt?"
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaig...zing-trump-supporters-destroys-accurate-polls
You have voter suppression that can't be predicted or anticipated by polling:
"She’d lost her driver’s license a few days earlier, but she came prepared with an expired Wisconsin state ID and proof of residency. A poll worker confirmed she was registered to vote at her current address. But this was Wisconsin’s first major election that required voters—even those who were already registered—to present a current driver’s license, passport, or state or military ID to cast a ballot. Anthony couldn’t, and so she wasn’t able to vote."
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/10/voter-suppression-wisconsin-election-2016/
And you had effects like Trump's massive advantage in leveraging micro-targeting on Facebook which polls can't predict the results either:
"If each variation is counted as a distinct ad, then the Trump campaign, all told, ran 5.9 million Facebook ads. The Clinton campaign ran sixty-six thousand...
It’s no longer good enough to run one radio ad in Scranton and another one in Pittsburgh. These days, campaigns can carve the electorate into creepily thin segments: Gold Star moms near military bases, paintball-playing widowers in the Florida Panhandle, recovering addicts in Michigan’s Upper Peninsula. And, for anyone who wants to reach a specific audience with an actionable message, there has never been a platform as potent as Facebook. No matter how many bad press cycles or localized boycotts the company endures, the number of users keeps expanding; on average, those users are growing older, and that presumably redounds to Trump’s advantage."
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/03/09/the-man-behind-trumps-facebook-juggernaut
End the fecking Democrats already
Black people are really just commodities for both Democrats and Republicans to pimp into voting for them
The states should adopt Belgium's system were voting is mandatory and easy instead of a complex endeavor full of restrictions, hurdles and other inconveniences.
Hell, I wouldnt be surprised if at some point they will start using landmines to stop people from voting.
Hell, I wouldnt be surprised if at some point they will start using landmines to stop people from voting.
So are all other groups. They are ultimately all voting blocks that both parties court for votes.
USA is not a melting pot. Is a chunky pot. And every community is putting fences and differentiate themselves. My community, your community, my people, your people. White people on the offence and the minority on the defence clearly differentiate themselves and are looking for exchange for votes. This only separates the society and is doomed to perpetuate and fail as a country
I am shocked that Raoul doesn't get whats racist about what Biden said. But he also argued that Trump actually isn't racist but likes to pretend like one, so it kinda makes sense.
Pure cringe
Sorry Raoul .You either don't understand what Black people are trying to say or you are in denial.
If he is half as smart as he pretends to be, he will delete that post.
What about it is wrong? Everyone is just a number to jockey for votes from.
Political parties go after votes in specific groups to win elections. This is American politics 101. Not only is this not controversial, its reality.
100%. Its a routine part of politics.
It’s racist. Making such sweeping generalizations speaks volumes about your inability and lack of knowledge about the black community.
A harbinger of things to come in NC ?
I’m not talking about Biden, I’m talking about Raoul’s reply to another comment.
I was talking about Raoul’s post as well.
Its pretty much par for the course these days. Stake out a rigidly inflexible moral position, find out that no candidates available support said position, don't vote (or vote third party), then spend the next cycle on social media complaining about why the system sucks . Rinse and repeat.
What Biden said is not out of the norm for the Democratic Party.
They believe they 'own' the black vote.
Old habits die hard you know.
They believe they 'own' the black vote.
Old habits die hard you know.
Aren't you the guy who said white women should take more blame for electing Trump?
You stooping so low to support your party's candidate is quite amazing Raoul.
Attacking racism is 'rigidity' ?
This is what happens when you are only interested in a horse race.
There is Right and Wrong.
Do you still remember that simple choice?
I'm for whoever the Dem nominee is. How about you ?
I can see that.
Even a rapist and a racist.
Here is a clue.
When all sense of right and wrong goes out the window in the quest to win, you become part of the problem.
Eboue, Berba, him, entropy have made it clear with hundreds of posts that they would rather prefer Trump than a flawed Democrat candidate. There are far many posts from them criticizing (down to pathological hate for Biden and Democrat Party) than Trump and GOP.
This is correct.
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