2020 US Elections | Biden certified as President | Dems control Congress
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Trump’s gonna get re-elected, isn’t he
I doubt it, but if this holds, GOP is screwed for some time. This essentially wins Biden his presidency (though if he really wins Georgia, it likely means that he has won pretty much all swing states) and gives the Senate to the Democrats. This would be a total debacle for GOP, in which case they will look to reform from Trump's days.
Thing is, with a bit of luck, this happens, and we see a civil war between GOP leaders and Trump. I would love to see GOP becoming irrelevant (or getting destroyed).
Trump’s gonna get re-elected, isn’t he
How lame is this...I was gonna say "the left cant meme" but he ain't left
Quite possible. The map without battleground states seems to favor the Dems, who have 25 winning combinations to the GOP's 12. If you include IA as a battleground the Dems winning combinations shoots up to 33.
I wonder what the GOP will do when Texas eventually turns solid blue?
They will be locked out of the Presidency for a very long time at that point, which is probably why McConnell is so obsessed with stacking the benches with as many conservatives as possible in the present. They know what's on the horizon.
You think empress ivanka is still holding elections in 2028... no chance
They will suffer for two cycles and then shed their anti immigration stance directed at Latinos. There is a chance that eventually good amount of Hispanics will be part of republican coalition in some time in future given that they seem to be more conservative and religious than general dem base.
Pivot to the center, would be my best guess. Parties are dynamic organizations. With Texas becoming a blue state, any path for a GOP victory is removed. They won't have any other chance except reform or disappear. While I would love to see GOP being totally destroyed, I think it is more likely that they would just go towards the center. Obviously, they would still be a right-wing party, but probably less extreme than now. With some luck, in 20 years we might see GOP being where Dems are now, and Dems being to where Bernie is now. That would be great to see.
Indeed. They could also be more open to some social things (like abortion, LGBT rights), maybe realize that global warming is not a hoax, while still being about low taxes and the financial conservatism.
As a registered AZ voter, this would be an interesting prospect. Have never thought my vote ever meant as much as now.
That was pretty much a prediction in 2016.
The center-right can't meme.
imagine still believing in her
I know it's traditionally a battleground state but I'm convinced Florida goes to Trump. Also... Georgia? Wishful thinking.Quite possible. The map without battleground states seems to favor the Dems, who have 25 winning combinations to the GOP's 12. If you include IA as a battleground the Dems winning combinations shoots up to 33.
States with large population centers are all trending Dem at the moment, so it would make sense that GA would be in play at some point, especially since Abrams came within a whisker of improbably winning.
Trump’s gonna get re-elected, isn’t he
That's the best they can do? Sometimes I feel they want to lose to Trump.The centre right can’t meme though
So it's President Tweety up against Sleepy Joe aka Slow Joe aka Old Joe Biden aka Creepy Joe Biden aka Sleepy-Creepy Joe aka China Joe aka Pedjo Biden aka Hands aka You'sa Ho Biden.
This is the same shit libs said in 2008
Sounding like an old Bodega Boys podcast.
Did they?
It doesn't matter what they said. Parties evolve all the time to track voters. If their baseline shrinks, then they have no other choice but to adapt in order to attract other voters.
Just look at the picture below:
No, it is not a photoshopped photo. Democrats won most of the Southern states, including what are now strong GOP states (Texas, Louisiana, Alabama, South and North Carolina, Tennese, Georgia, Kentucky and so on), while GOP won California, Washington State, Illinois and New Jersey. Looks pretty crazy if you project current division. But since then (1976) both parties evolved, to the point that in the states I mentioned GOP easily wins, while Dems win easily California and co.
If Texas becomes a blue state, then likely Florida and Arizona would have become blue states too, and maybe some states that are lean GOP, would be solid blue. That would destroy any path to the White House GOP might have. And they won't have any choice but to adapt. Heck, if only Texas become a blue state, GOP will have to evolve or see the White House only from the TV.
Why did he do this?
Don't think it has anything to do with Tara Reade. I think it's as simple as "look at my token black female friend". Although i did read that the biden camp was starting to get peeved with Stacey going out there basically begging for the job. Maybe they actually wanted to embarrass her? Take her down a notch or two?
EDIT: there's no way you do that to her on MSNBC if she's an actual VP candidate. If she's been vetted, she's off the list already.
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@Revan They will change, but it’s in a different trajectory than the one you think.
States like Missouri, Indiana are now solid GOP, IA/OH lean red, PA/WI trending that way. Florida will always be Florida with that panhandle and the old retirees population, so IA+OH+PA wash out Texas, WI equals AZ and then MI/MN might be under threat as well as the rest of the Midwest become redder as young people migrate out of states leaving a closed off, growing older, susceptible to right wing propaganda population behind.
Demographic is not destiny, especially with gerrymandering.
States like Missouri, Indiana are now solid GOP, IA/OH lean red, PA/WI trending that way. Florida will always be Florida with that panhandle and the old retirees population, so IA+OH+PA wash out Texas, WI equals AZ and then MI/MN might be under threat as well as the rest of the Midwest become redder as young people migrate out of states leaving a closed off, growing older, susceptible to right wing propaganda population behind.
Demographic is not destiny, especially with gerrymandering.
Yes does seem like that may be it .But it should have been done in private, the look on Stacey's face was priceless.
Very little sympathy for her. She's been shilling at ridiculous levels for months now.
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Don't think ti'll matter this time, but still an actual positive thing to come out of these judgements - that's something!
This guy seems to be inventing his own imaginary narrative to create content for his channel.
Did they?
It doesn't matter what they said. Parties evolve all the time to track voters. If their baseline shrinks, then they have no other choice but to adapt in order to attract other voters.
Just look at the picture below:
No, it is not a photoshopped photo. Democrats won most of the Southern states, including what are now strong GOP states (Texas, Louisiana, Alabama, South and North Carolina, Tennese, Georgia, Kentucky and so on), while GOP won California, Washington State, Illinois and New Jersey. Looks pretty crazy if you project current division. But since then (1976) both parties evolved, to the point that in the states I mentioned GOP easily wins, while Dems win easily California and co.
If Texas becomes a blue state, then likely Florida and Arizona would have become blue states too, and maybe some states that are lean GOP, would be solid blue. That would destroy any path to the White House GOP might have. And they won't have any choice but to adapt. Heck, if only Texas become a blue state, GOP will have to evolve or see the White House only from the TV.
I see this as a simple trend where states with large population centers are (or soon will be) trending blue. PA, AZ, TX, GA, NV, CO, VA etc. It began with VA in the 90s and 2000s, CO and NV in the 2010s, AZ over the past 2-3 years, and is now beginning reach GA and TX, and the Dems are dominating PA politics now again as well after many of the 2016 Trump voters jumped off the ship at the mid terms. The only exception here are WI and FL, but then again Biden has led in every poll in both states since becoming the presumptive nominee when Sanders dropped out in early April.
Hypothetically speaking, do you think it is realistic to eradicate GOP in terms of the presidency when you consider the current demographic trend?
It will always come down to which candidates both parties run in elections and how the campaigns are run imo. What's pretty inescapable is that if Texas becomes a battleground state, losing it would choke off most plausible paths to 270 for the GOP, since if you're losing Texas, you're probably also at risk of losing states like GA and NC.
of course its probably more realistic that the GOP moves position in line with opinions / demographics to remain viable... plus if the dems run all the way over to the left with AOC the GOP might also eat into the more centrist voters... though if america keeps on polarizing they may become a dying bread
All bread is dying, if you think about it.
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