2020 US Elections | Biden certified as President | Dems control Congress

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For some strange reason Bennett is still in the race. Almost as weird as Deval Patrick joining at such a late stage.
 
nimic said:
The Panama canal was sort of/kinda a part of the US at that point. As far as I can tell the natural-born citizen thing isn't really very well defined, though, so some people think it means just people born in the United States, some think it's enough to have American parents, etc.
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I think being eligible for US citizenship at the moment of birth is the consensus opinion, or most likely to pass a legal challenge at the very least. Some were born on foreign soil, some only have one US parent, so on and so forth.
 
nimic said:
The Panama canal was sort of/kinda a part of the US at that point. As far as I can tell the natural-born citizen thing isn't really very well defined, though, so some people think it means just people born in the United States, some think it's enough to have American parents, etc.
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Raoul said:
McCain, Ted Cruz etc. They all qualify because their parents were citizens who happened to work in other countries at the time.
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We should make him provide a birth certificate.
 
Raoul said:
Should Bennett have somehow miraculously become the nominee....he would've been up against someone with experience in this area.
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If anyone has the audacity to question the citizenship of the most typical looking white American guy, it's Trump.
 
Raoul said:
McCain, Ted Cruz etc. They all qualify because their parents were citizens who happened to work in other countries at the time.
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Which is why the Birtherism with Obama never made any sense. Nobody ever, to my knowledge, challenged that Obama’s mother was a US citizen.
 
Carolina Red said:
Which is why the Birtherism with Obama never made any sense. Nobody ever, to my knowledge, challenged that Obama’s mother was a US citizen.
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It had to do with her age and the amount of years she had spent in the US after her 14th birthday. At the time of his birth the one parent that was an American Citizen had to have lived in the US for 5 years after their 14th birthday for a child of theirs born out side the US to get automatic citizenship. Obama's mother was only 18 when he was born, so she had not lived in the US 5 years after her 14th birthday. That's why it was an issue where he was born.

Ps. The rule has changed now to 2 years after your 14th birthday.
 
Canuckred64 said:
It had to do with her age and the amount of years she had spent in the US after her 14th birthday. At the time of his birth the one parent that was an American Citizen had to have lived in the US for 5 years after their 14th birthday for a child of theirs born out side the US to get automatic citizenship. Obama's mother was only 18 when he was born, so she had not lived in the US 5 years after her 14th birthday. That's why it was an issue where he was born.

Ps. The rule has changed now to 2 years after your 14th birthday.
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You are correct, I see. Looking it up, I had that whole chain of events wrong in my head. I’d thought somebody, I guess Paul Volokh, had come out and stated something like it didn’t matter because of Obama’s mother being a citizen, but it looks like he said that, then retracted it, and I just never knew he retracted it. Cheers.
 
I saw she cancelled her big event earlier and was waiting for this.

Tulsi Gabbard killed her campaign that night-that alone was worth her running :lol:
 
Harris didn't drop out due to a brief exchange with Gabbard. She was simply a weak candidate who got stuck in a political no mans land of being neither progressive or centrist enough to develop a base.
 
Raoul said:
Harris didn't drop out due to a brief exchange with Gabbard. She was simply a weak candidate who got stuck in a political no mans land of being neither progressive or centrist enough to develop a base.
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She had surged after attacking Biden and then Tulsi just killed her credibility.
 
berbatrick said:
She had surged after attacking Biden and then Tulsi just killed her credibility.
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Both were based on debate one liners and nothing more. It's not like she built a base who quickly scattered after Gabbard challenged her during one debate exchange. There was never anything there in the first place.
 
Raoul said:
Both were based on debate one liners and nothing more. It's not like she built a base who quickly scattered after Gabbard challenged her during one debate exchange. There was never anything there in the first place.
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I would agree it was Harris falling between the cracks trying to portray herself as a pragmatic 'progressive'.
But Tulsi showed her up for the liar she was.
 
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