2020 US Elections | Biden certified as President | Dems control Congress

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Why do people think Trump is going to jail? When will you learn.
 
Raoul said:
When will we learn about the future ? When the future actually happens.
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There’s some things that you can predict about the future with a fair degree of accuracy. As much as I would love for it to happen, it's not going too.
 
Gambit said:
There’s some things that you can predict about the future with a fair degree of accuracy. As much as I would love for it to happen, it's not going too.
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Given that its Trump, it would be hard to predict what will happen. He has exposure in three different jurisdictions so there's a good bet he will be pursued by the law. Whether that results in fines or jail time depends on the results of the cases. We shouldn't presume he won't go to jail since there's always a first time for everything. Everyone thought John Gotti would never get nailed, until he did - and wound up dying in jail.
 
Raoul said:
Given that its Trump, it would be hard to predict what will happen. He has exposure in three different jurisdictions so there's a good bet he will be pursued by the law. Whether that results in fines or jail time depends on the results of the cases. We shouldn't presume he won't go to jail since there's always a first time for everything. Everyone thought John Gotti would never get nailed, until he did - and wound up dying in jail.
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I don't know, has there ever been a president serve prison time before? I sort of feel that his whole presidency has been built around protecting himself from the inevitable that was always going to come at him, as well as satisfying some sort of depraved bucket-list wish.
 
groovyalbert said:
I don't know, has there ever been a president serve prison time before? I sort of feel that his whole presidency has been built around protecting himself from the inevitable that was always going to come at him, as well as satisfying some sort of depraved bucket-list wish.
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The Presidency while in office has, but there's no legal mechanism saving a past President from prosecution. I don't know of any President that is under as much legal scrutiny from multiple levels of his own government as Trump is.



 
WI_Red said:
It does because when the systemic issues in our society are exposed with no shame given you no longer have the option of living in blissful ignorance. You either except it and go on in your privilege of being able to “live with it” or you acknowledge its existence and try to do something.
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Fair enough, although one does not usually associate a liberal epiphany with good ol' Alabam.
 
WI_Red said:
Like others have said, I too had to make a similar journey. Grew up in a very conservative Catholic house. Rebelled as much as I "could" in my teens/20's by becoming a libertarian. It was my move to Alabama for grad school that began my liberal transformation. It has been 15 years of stripping away thoughts and beliefs, and it is still a battle that creeps up and probably always will. Exposure to life outside my safe SoCal bubble was eye opening and raised a bunch of questions that I had no answers for at the time.
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I think your odds were greater than Rudy Ruettiger getting a sack for Notre Dame.
 
I'm kinda scared guys, Powell's brief seems pretty compelling to me with its perfect phrasing and spacing. Solid piece of work.

 
WPMUFC said:
if trumpists make good on the boycott threats, i'd say Ossoff easily. If it's all bluster, 50/50.
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50/50 is very generous. GOP always do better in runoff/special and Ossoff ran behind Biden by about 100k votes, while Perdue tracked nearly identical to Trump’s.

55/45 for Ossoff if MAGAs make good on their threats, 70/30 for Perdue otherwise. I’m not betting on this one but odds should be roughly at 60% for Perdue and Loeffler.
 
Cheimoon said:
Dude, what code? They're called 'dominion'; it's right out there! They exist to dominate us.
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The truth is never that simple, things are ever what they appear to be. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it's definitely not a duck.

Dig deeper. Do your own research!
 


JFC, the typos are now part of the plan...............WHAT IS GOING ON?? How broken are these people? :lol: :nervous::wenger:
 
WPMUFC said:
if trumpists make good on the boycott threats, i'd say Ossoff easily. If it's all bluster, 50/50.
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Trumpists boycotting the vote sounds very unlikely. Except a small minority of Qanon obsessed conspiracy nuts, I dont see anyone boycotting such a crucial vote.
 
oneniltothearsenal said:
"This problem is only going to get worse. One analysis of Census Bureau data projected that by 2040, roughly half of the population will be represented by 16 senators; the other, more rural half will have 84 senators at their disposal. If Democrats don’t find a way to broaden their coalition into less populous states with smaller metro areas, it may be impossible to pass liberal laws for the next generation. "
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But this is insane. After a certain point you can no longer say in good faith that one party has to change and adapt because otherwise a massive systemic problem will screw them over regardless of the actual level of their support. Once half of the population has 84% of representation, there is absolutely no reason to even care at all about the other half. "Tyranny of the majority" is a phrase right-wing Americans love throwing about but it's not the real danger in the US political system, it's quite the opposite.
 
Raoul said:
Assuming the traffic cone goes to jail or is in some other way disqualified, my leading contenders for 2024 would be Hawley, DeSantis, Haley, Cruz, Rubio, and Pence.

Romney, Baker, and Hogan are basically relegated to RINO status at this point. Cotton may also have an outside shot if he didn't have the charisma of a tree.
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Meh, it is gonna be president Carlson. Mark my words.
 
I actually want him to stay in there so we can see him being escorted, or preferably dragged, out.
 
unchanged_lineup said:
Surely got skeletons in his closet. Is he really as teflon as Don? Not sure.
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skeletons seem to not matter anymore. He is extremely popular (most-watched cable news show ever), speaks well, is logical when he wants, will get Trump's MAGA, can say batshit crazy things when he wants, but also to hold back. Essentially, he can be a much-improved version of Trump.
 
InfiniteBoredom said:
50/50 is very generous. GOP always do better in runoff/special and Ossoff ran behind Biden by about 100k votes, while Perdue tracked nearly identical to Trump’s.

55/45 for Ossoff if MAGAs make good on their threats, 70/30 for Perdue otherwise. I’m not betting on this one but odds should be roughly at 60% for Perdue and Loeffler.
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Which is crazy since both of them are guilty of insider trading. But this is a party that don't mind voting for cnuts so I say both of them win while calling their opponents thieves and criminals. Republicans are extremist to say the least.
 
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