2020 US Elections | Biden certified as President | Dems control Congress

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Poor little guys.


https://roar-assets-auto.rbl.ms/documents/7487/3. EXHIBIT 1 (affidavits) (compressed).pdf

Here is a PDF link to the affidavits. Some of them are in hand writing and, at times, difficult to read.

The first statement had some interesting bits of information but for the most part, most witnesses don't seem to understand the process and are complaining about it or most were violating rules related to COVID, which, for Republicans, probably isn't at all surprising.

Numerous people complain about people inside the convention hall having BLM symbols on their person and they find that sufficient evidence to support wide scale fraud. Interesting people. There is also one who complains that the lawyers he/she spoke with in the convention hall, you know, voting experts, about "irregularities" all said nothing about the process was irregular, but that he/she later deducted through conversation that all the lawyers she talked to were far left wing and not to be trusted.
 
https://roar-assets-auto.rbl.ms/documents/7487/3. EXHIBIT 1 (affidavits) (compressed).pdf

Here is a PDF link to the affidavits. Some of them are in hand writing and, at times, difficult to read.

The first statement had some interesting bits of information but for the most part, most witnesses don't seem to understand the process and are complaining about it or most were violating rules related to COVID, which, for Republicans, probably isn't at all surprising.

Numerous people complain about people inside the convention hall having BLM symbols on their person and they find that sufficient evidence to support wide scale fraud. Interesting people. There is also one who complains that the lawyers he/she spoke with in the convention hall, you know, voting experts, about "irregularities" all said nothing about the process was irregular, but that he/she later deducted through conversation that all the lawyers she talked to were far left wing and not to be trusted.

Wow these people read like serious rubes.

Page 14 and 20 are virtually the same affidavit.

Page 22 is the best so far. Poll challenger or Trump for President Campaign Committee and The Michigan Republican Party observes ballot being duplicated. Goes to ask supervisor if there is a Republican there to observe the duplication while failing to realize they are, in fact, a Republican observer. Files affidavit charging voting irregularities.

Ooh the affidavit from page 22 is virtually duplicated on page 28. Another Republican observer who didn't know they were a Republican observer. Jesus. These people wouldn't know their arse from their elbow if they were fisting a donkey with it...that or half of them were coerced.
 
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Phew. Had to stop around 115 pages in. Too many "I believe"'s with zero proof and no understanding of processes and every single one is a snowflake.
 
Hearing rumblings that Biden & the transition team are agitating for intel briefings so they can get their hands on the Hunter laptop evidence, as there’s no real reason for them to need such briefings at all (or until January).
 
I just saw someone on Twitter made a good point, some 50k votes between AZ, GA and WI prevented a 269-269 tie (which practically means Trump’s re-election), despite Biden winning 5m (should be 7m when all results are certified) more votes.

So as much as we can laugh at Trump, the EC has to go, or else it’s only a matter of time until you see something absurd like one candidate losing despite winning 10m more votes.
 
The only real crimes in there are against grammar, spelling, & handwriting.

Up to page 195 now (I can't stop).

They're not good at basic maths, either.

Matt Seeley(who was at TCF for 11 hours) said:
From my observations, the most efficient counting tables could process approximately 100 ballots an hour. At no time when I was at TCF centre was every table counting ballots. At most times approximately 50 to 100 tables were counting ballots. Given these observations, I do not understand how over one hundred thousand ballots could have been counted during the times the TCF was used as a counting station.

I mean, we're approaching Jacob Wohl levels of stupidity here, although I'll give Matt credit for providing us all the information we need to determine the value of x when x= the number of ballots counted during his 11 hour observation tour at TCF.
 
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Wow these people read like serious rubes.

Page 14 and 20 are virtually the same affidavit.

Page 22 is the best so far. Poll challenger or Trump for President Campaign Committee and The Michigan Republican Party observes ballot being duplicated. Goes to ask supervisor if there is a Republican there to observe the duplication while failing to realize they are, in fact, a Republican observer. Files affidavit charging voting irregularities.

Ooh the affidavit from page 22 is virtually duplicated on page 28. Another Republican observer who didn't know they were a Republican observer. Jesus. These people wouldn't know their arse from their elbow if they were fisting a donkey with it...that or half of them were coerced.

I know, it seems like there are at least a half dozen affiants, who were all Trump/Republican observers, who are making the exact same complaint that there were no Republican observers to witness a duplication process that they witnessed

But its all good because now Trump and his campaign can say they have over 100 witnesses in Michigan to fraud knowing damn well none of their supporters are going to read the affidavits nor will the supporters believe what the press tells them about the affidavits.
 
I just saw someone on Twitter made a good point, some 50k votes between AZ, GA and WI prevented a 269-269 tie (which practically means Trump’s re-election), despite Biden winning 5m (should be 7m when all results are certified) more votes.

So as much as we can laugh at Trump, the EC has to go, or else it’s only a matter of time until you see something absurd like one candidate losing despite winning 10m more votes.

Yeah, I think someone on CNN/MSNBC on election night also mentioned, potentially, it could have worked out as well that a 269-269 tie was avoided solely by Biden winning the 2nd Congressional District in Oklahoma. It obviously didn't, but depending on how Georgia/Arizona/Nevada/Penn went, one congressional district would have decided the election.
 
I know, it seems like there are at least a half dozen affiants, who were all Trump/Republican observers, who are making the exact same complaint that there were no Republican observers to witness a duplication process that they witnessed

Yeah the similarity detracts from their credibility, even though they were usually at different stations.

But its all good because now Trump and his campaign can say they have over 100 witnesses in Michigan to fraud knowing damn well none of their supporters are going to read the affidavits nor will the supporters believe what the press tells them about the affidavits.

They should be forced to read all of them. I'd feel better then.
 
Yeah the similarity detracts from their credibility, even though they were usually at different stations.



They should be forced to read all of them. I'd feel better then.
What does that word mean, precious?

Maybe some of the same people that wrote those, wrote the FCC comments re net neutrality. Maybe Mr. Pai can still answer for that sometime?
 
Hearing rumblings that Biden & the transition team are agitating for intel briefings so they can get their hands on the Hunter laptop evidence, as there’s no real reason for them to need such briefings at all (or until January).

I'm sorry, you're going to have to explain why you think the incoming President doesn't need intelligence briefings at all. :wenger:

This is the case with literally every transition of power.
 
Yeah, I think someone on CNN/MSNBC on election night also mentioned, potentially, it could have worked out as well that a 269-269 tie was avoided solely by Biden winning the 2nd Congressional District in Oklahoma. It obviously didn't, but depending on how Georgia/Arizona/Nevada/Penn went, one congressional district would have decided the election.
Think it was Nebraska, not Oklahoma
 
I'm sorry, you're going to have to explain why you think the incoming President doesn't need intelligence briefings at all. :wenger:

This is the case with literally every transition of power.
Yep. Batshit, right?

To think that they are only after the Hunter ‘evidence’ is one thing, but to think that all transitions are turnkey on the day that the power is passed is truly something else.
 


this happens in high-profile seats in india but i don't think it's worked for a while.

It's a tried and tested method in Hungary, too. We also have fake parties that have names and logos similar to opposition parties.

So yeah, Americans, be worried about this playbook. It's not a sign of good things.
 
The only real crimes in there are against grammar, spelling, & handwriting.
The first lady says she was called a bigot and a c**t by someone who covered her name badge. She also said only the GOP people had name badges. Even his own side didn't like her. :lol:
 
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Yep. Batshit, right?

To think that they are only after the Hunter ‘evidence’ is one thing, but to think that all transitions are turnkey on the day that the power is passed is truly something else.

https://www.npr.org/2016/12/13/5053...residents-daily-brief-and-why-is-it-important

I still can't quite work out what you're getting at. This is just the way things have always been done and it's got nothing to do with this laptop. Trump got intel briefings before being sworn in (albeit he asked for them weekly rather than daily because he couldn't be arsed), just as Obama did, just as Bush did, just as Clinton did, and so on back down the line.
 
https://www.npr.org/2016/12/13/5053...residents-daily-brief-and-why-is-it-important

I still can't quite work out what you're getting at. This is just the way things have always been done and it's got nothing to do with this laptop. Trump got intel briefings before being sworn in (albeit he asked for them weekly rather than daily because he couldn't be arsed), just as Obama did, just as Bush did, just as Clinton did, and so on back down the line.

I think there is a slight misunderstanding. @calodo2003 is not saying that this is something he believes, he is saying that the Trumpers are saying this.
 
https://www.npr.org/2016/12/13/5053...residents-daily-brief-and-why-is-it-important

I still can't quite work out what you're getting at. This is just the way things have always been done and it's got nothing to do with this laptop. Trump got intel briefings before being sworn in (albeit he asked for them weekly rather than daily because he couldn't be arsed), just as Obama did, just as Bush did, just as Clinton did, and so on back down the line.
Think you’re misunderstanding me. I chose not to use a link for the story as it came from Epoch. This isn’t coming from me, this is the current version of batshittery being suckled through the teat.
 
It's a tried and tested method in Hungary, too. We also have fake parties that have names and logos similar to opposition parties.

So yeah, Americans, be worried about this playbook. It's not a sign of good things.

It’s not new in America either.
 
I've read it , also lived through it, 'scary 'days interest rate at 18%. I was working just to pay the mortgage, borrowed money from 'bank of mum and dad' to get through (I am now bank of mum and dad... somethings never change!)

EXTRACT from above
"Although this was a difficult situation, the pound came back stronger because excess interest and high inflation were subsequently forced out of the British economy. Soros pocketed $1 billion on the deal and cemented his reputation as the premier currency speculator in the world."

Also convince us that after ERM failure, Britain would never give up the £(sterling)



Trying to curtail 'free speech' just drives it underground, in years gone by the term "don't give them a platform" was used widely amongst those who feared what was coming. It was used against the movement for racial equality in the US and elsewhere, in the 60's, it didn't stop Rev ML King; didn't stop the suffragette movement in the 1920's, it didn't stop Brexit in 2016. Denying people a platform does not stop the transfer of ignorance, just as it does not stop an idea whose time has come, /end to racial segregation/ prevent votes for women/taking back control, etc.
In the modern era with all the communications technology its practically impossible, all that curtailment efforts result in is creating 'echo chambers'

Sounds like typical Perfidious Albion shenanigans to me
 
Yeah, I think someone on CNN/MSNBC on election night also mentioned, potentially, it could have worked out as well that a 269-269 tie was avoided solely by Biden winning the 2nd Congressional District in Oklahoma. It obviously didn't, but depending on how Georgia/Arizona/Nevada/Penn went, one congressional district would have decided the election.

Nebraska?
 
Whats life like in a modern autocracy,?
I think some people imagine it like it's 1984 - or at least like 1930s USSR where black cars stop in front your house in the middle of the night to take you away and you're never heard from again.

In modern times, it's not how it works anymore. You can talk shit about Orbán in public, in the pub, anywhere really - it's fine. The elections are more or less real, in the sense that they are open to everyone and the results are accepted - I live in a district of Budapest where in last year's local/municipal elections, 16 out of 16 constituencies were won by the opposition and as such they currently have a 2/3 majority in the local council. And the opposition has a majority in the Capital's General Assembly, Budapest's central governing body. So it's not quite Lukashenko's Belarus just yet.

But. There are fewer and fewer media outlets that are openly critical of the government and more and more of them are nothing more but pure propaganda channels that regularly engage in delightful character assassinations. The most memorable occasion was when a 16-year-old high school student spoke up against the government at a rally and subsequently, the Fidesz-loyalist media started publishing articles about her grades in school, accused her of being on the verge of failing several subjects (completely fabricated), one of them even posted an upskirt photo of her... as I said, delightful.

Controversial laws are often submitted in the middle of the night and voted on by Parliament on the next day, with zero consultation with anyone beforehand. Apart from the increasing stranglehold on the media, Fidesz is taking over higher education, academia in general, and the cultural scene as well with changing funding systems, putting institutions under the control of freshly-created foundations packed with Fidesz loyalists. These have been allocated serious state funds that, in accordance with a fresh law - submitted on Tuesday night - are now basically locked in: a two-thirds majority will be required in the future to change their funding.

Ahead of the last parliamentary elections, the ÁSZ, the main regulatory body of Parliament's finances, somehow found violations in the finances of all parties bar one - no prizes for guessing which one. ÁSZ is led by a man I happen to know personally, a long-time, deeply loyal Fidesz-member. Yes, the few media outlets that still haven't been bought up by Fidesz-related businessmen are shouting about these things but it's futile against the brutal, relentless propaganda of the Fidesz media, especially the state TV that has long since given up any pretence of public service.

Personally, the worst thing is the feeling of helplessness. Considering the election system, the demographics of the country, the staggering concentration of financial and political power that Fidesz enjoys means that there is next to no chance of the "Orbán-regime" not dominating the next couple of decades of my life. I have to watch heartbreakingly awful and frankly, petty things happening, like completely banning gender transition (making it impossible to officially change your gender, to be precise), or the recent law that pretty much prevents single people and of course gay people from adopting children (the single people part is important because presenting themselves as single people attempting to adopt a child was the best way for LGBTQ people to successfully adopt); the constitution already defines marriage as the union of a man and a woman and a pending amendment defines "parents" as mother and father - and I have no hope it will be better any time soon. If it were up to Budapest alone, they could be defeated easily. But it's not - the capital is in a sea of orange, full of people with whom anti-LBTGQ and anti-migrant and xenophobic propaganda is very effective. And of course it's Fidesz who writes the election laws - and the recent successes of the opposition already saw them enacting certain changes to make it even harder - close to impossible, really - for any challenger.
 
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