Under 10k if patterns of the past 2 days holds.
He only needs to win by 200 though. Recount can only be done in AZ with difference of <200.
Picture will become clearer when Maricopa dumps a chunk in 2 hours.
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He only needs to win by 200 though. Recount can only be done in AZ with difference of <200.
Picture will become clearer when Maricopa dumps a chunk in 2 hours.
It's The Progressives Dummy
That's fecking amazing!Still whining.
Surprised they’re not flagged yet.
I think an interesting analysis of the AZ election would be to explain why Mark Kelly won by a wider margin than Biden. Basically, you had Trump voters who voted for Mark Kelly.
I can understand the Biden-McSally voters as center-right voters who wanted to get rid of Trump while splitting the ticket to promote a Republican controlled senate as a check. Trump-Kelly voters, the only thing I can imagine driving their decision is that these voters are misogynistic and don't think McSally, as a female, is seen as a competent candidate to these folks relative to an ex-military and ex-astronaut male like Kelly. I say this because the main dissatisfaction with McSally came from her support for ending pre-existing conditions and bowing down to Trump, yet I would imagine Trump voters wouldn't put much stock into the former as Trump is leading the charge against pre-existing conditions.
Another, maybe likelier, explanation is that more people voted in the Senate race than in the Presidential race, maybe folks who didn't like either presidential candidate but liked Kelly. This is supported by Kelly currently having more raw votes than Biden.
Why is he sending all of his cronies to do the press conferences. Is he going to bunker up until Jan 21st?
He's not stopping there...
Waaaaaaaaah! Somebody call a waaaaaambulance!
I thought he had won though?
He didn't win Wisconsin. Twitter needs to pull that down.
@sport2793 I think she’s just really disliked in the state, similar to Martha Coakley who Dem put up to run for Senate and Gov in MA, only to lose them both.
You see that sometimes still even in this climate. Sherrod Brown won re election easily in 2018 while the rest of Ohio was a massacre, Roy Cooper won NC handily when Biden and Cunningham lost.
You see that sometimes still even in this climate. Sherrod Brown won re election easily in 2018 while the rest of Ohio was a massacre, Roy Cooper won NC handily when Biden and Cunningham lost.
At what point does he just announce he's had a meeting with Putin where he asked him if there had been any voting fraud and Putin said yes?
Also don't forget that he is married to Gabby Gifford.
It'd be too funny if they found a lot of voter fraud, but it was on the GOP side and it happened to change some red states to Biden.
Sinema’s seat would probably be hers if not for the shooting.
He's not stopping there...
Waaaaaaaaah! Somebody call a waaaaaambulance!
In the space of two linked tweets he he contradicts himself.
First he says that the FDA approved the vaccine in record quick time due to his leadership. Then he says that FDA didn't want him to get the vaccine win prior to the election.
His mind is becoming more garbled by the day. And he still seems to think that he's running an election campaign, despite it all having finished last week.
The repubs will dump him once the Georgia senate race is over. He doesn't know when he is being taken for a ride by Mitch McConnell.
The real question is will Trump support the GA Senate runoffs if he himself has nothing to gain from it as he leaves office.
Burn it
A slow turtle ride?
This should be a badge of honor for the Caf. We now rank our own Russian bots!
I mean, this is *slightly* closer than I imagined @InfiniteBoredom but I'm still confident on the early call 
I think it was a dumb as pigshit idea for the GOP to even put McSally in that position. It's been clear for ages that voters just don't like her, and she should just stop running for things.
Thats one of the best efforts.
I can see him running for 2024..... (just to protect himself if nothing else)
Well it was either her or someone like Kelli Ward who is batshit crazy even by GOP standards.
I mean, this is *slightly* closer than I imagined @InfiniteBoredom but I'm still confident on the early call
NV at 36k and counting.
Party registration and partisanship are far more reliable indicators of results than traditional assumption on Independents swing.
He's the worst Democrat, but he's still better than the best Republican. Low bar, admittedly.
The problem is that he's the only Democrat that can win in WV, so the likes of Schumer will have no choice but to let him do whatever he wants.
Exactly, You need to get small victories in states like WV and shouldn't be actively relying on those seats to pass any meaningful legislation. If Republicans don't pass any stimulus by the Georgia runoffs then Dems should run on that message alone and Manchin's comments on court packing actually helps Dems in the runoffs IMO.
Wait, is that author trying to argue that progressives won big in 2018? At best, the results were mixed and ambiguous. Yes progressives won, but they won in a number of established Democratic seats and the success of 2018 was just as much down to centrists as it was a victory for progressivism. Blue districts are getting bluer due to polarization; that shouldn't be taken as evidence that a broad progressive platform is popular nationwide.
I get the author's point, but he/she shouldn't be rewriting history. A couple progressives from Texas won seats, that still leaves many more seats that flipped that were won primarily by moderates. Nor are the number of defeats progressive candidates faced in red/purple states or districts mentioned. The author also kind of fails to mention how quickly Bernie Sanders' primary challenge fizzled out and how even his early success in New Hampshire was somewhat disappointing. It seems to be implied that because Biden almost lost he should have moved further left before the election or the Democrats should have picked a more progressive candidate. However, he ran against many more progressive candidates in the primary and he trounced them and part of his appeal, I think, was that he was pretty difficult to attack for Trump. Sanders, even though he was someone I favoured and he was actually a fighter, would also have been a lot easier for Trump to ridicule and fear monger over. Biden got beat in Florida because he publicly courted Sanders' voters and because Trump warned of Biden's supposed connection to the "far left" and "socialism." That messaging was effective, and while Florida shouldn't be representative of the nation as a whole, Trump also would have been a lot more effective in attack against a candidate that was far more left.
Also, is it not a problem of messaging? I think I read an article once that found that voters largely supported Sanders' positions on a number of issues but when they were told that those issues were somehow "socialism" or "far left," those same people looked less favourably on the exact same issues. I could be totally wrong but I think that is true. Sanders' positions are popular but American voters, for some reason or another, get scared when those positions are pushed by a progressive or a "socialist"
To be fair, a number of progressives lost in relatively close races in pretty Republican friendly territory in 2018. However, while progressives mobilized voters in places like Texas, ie, Beto, Republicans also mobilized a pretty robust opposition to those progressive candidates as well. Progressives shouldn't be blamed for the failures of 2020, but arguing a sharp shift left turn would have solved anything is probably wrong too.
Also, as far as the popularity of the ACA versus Medicare, even though Medicare is viewed more favourably, it doesn't mean that an expansion of that policy is actually universally popular or that much more popular than the ACA. While most/many Republicans want the ACA replaced, a large majority of Democrats and Independents do not want it repealed. I think Medicare is popular, but Medicare for All is a slightly stickier issue.
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Why are Belfair still offering 1.1 on Biden winning? I had $400 on Trump to win on there so, Is it still possible for me to cash out anything on that bet?
Sorry, don't know betting, but does 1.1 mean that if you bet $1 on Biden and he does get confirmed, you would win $1.10?
Also, if the Trump/McConnel appointed judges decide in Trump's favour in his legal challenges, ballots are thrown out and the results of the election are overturned, thus destroying American Democracy, you might just win a cool $400.
Nah, I don't want that so, I've cashed out at $35. My original bet was on Biden to win but I put $200 on Trump just to hedge my initial bet which has been paid out.
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He's not stopping there...
Waaaaaaaaah! Somebody call a waaaaaambulance!
Could be true. Imagine if Pfizer had announced the results a week earlier and it had the Comey effect. I'd expect a few riots at that point. There's no way Pfizer ignored the political implications of the timing of their analysis and release.
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