2020 US Elections | Biden certified as President | Dems control Congress

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UnrelatedPsuedo said:
Well yes, America is very racist and generally hates non-white people at a frightening rate

But I imagine she grew up more privileged than almost all folks posting on this site.

I wouldn’t try to downplay any racism or adversity she’s faced. But attending Berkeley as a child of two parents with PHD’s speaks more to the intellect and endeavour of her Caribbean-Indian parents than a long lost genetic tie to Africa.

I suspect I’m being a prick. I don’t much like her and often suggest she’s as false as Trumps tan. I’ll quit.
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I'm not here to chastise you for your opinion of her and her upbrining. She probably lived a realtively comfortable life, as much as a person from a broken home could, but it's in the day to day where non-white Americans struggle. They face racism in every situation. Want a coffee? You have a good chance of encountering racism. Need some paint from the Home Depot*? Racism. The list goes on. No matter how wealthy or successful you are as a non-white in the US, some no mark racist will make you feel like less of a person. That's why African-American and similar descriptors are important terms there. When you consider the melting pot angle, there is some empowerment in the terms as well.

*I am not intentionally associating the fine Home Depot chain of businesses, it's employees or third party contractors with racism.
 
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FahadiHossein said:
Sometimes I wonder why the Republicans are so afraid of "socialism". There are so many developed countries in the world that practice some forms of socialized medicine, with certain drugs, medical procedures that are covered by the government or government insurance and are given to citizens for low price or for free. Go for private healthcare if you are rich or have private insurance for better care.
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Its all about money.
 
Edgar Allan Pillow said:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.po...1/05/trump-second-term-without-winning-434464

This is worrying. He'll just use the remaining days to sign idiotic executive orders, fire people and just cause chaos before he's kicked out.
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All of which will simply be reversed by Biden's own series of executive orders on day one.

I honestly don't think Trump will bother doing anything remotely presidential in his final few months - will probably just squeeze in as many rallies as he can to feed his ego while he still can, and take the piss and use Marine One to transport him to Mar a lago everyday. He'll also be kept plenty busy preparing himself for an avalanche of legal and financial issues that await him the second he becomes a normal civilian.
 
As a narcissistic person who can't accept defeat I bet Trump will just spend the next 4 years slating Biden on Twitter and then he'll run again.

Mad man
 
FahadiHossein said:
Sometimes I wonder why the Republicans are so afraid of "socialism". There are so many developed countries in the world that practice some forms of socialized medicine, with certain drugs, medical procedures that are covered by the government or government insurance and are given to citizens for low price or for free. Go for private healthcare if you are rich or have private insurance for better care.
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Seems to be a cultural objection as much as anything else. They've come to regard capitalism as a fundamentally american idea while socialism is fundamentally anti-American. Once these concepts get tied up in ideas of nationalism and patriotism it becomes increasingly difficult to pierce them with logic.
 
Kaos said:
All of which will simply be reversed by Biden's own series of executive orders on day one.

I honestly don't think Trump will bother doing anything remotely presidential in his final few months - will probably just squeeze in as many rallies as he can to feed his ego while he still can, and take the piss and use Marine One to transport him to Mar a lago everyday. He'll also be kept plenty busy preparing himself for an avalanche of legal and financial issues that await him the second he becomes a normal civilian.
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If he is as clever as he thinks he is that’s exactly what he’ll do.
 
sullydnl said:
Seems to be a cultural objection as much as anything else. They've come to regard capitalism as a fundamentally american idea while socialism is fundamentally anti-American. Once these concepts get tied up in ideas of nationalism and patriotism it becomes increasingly difficult to pierce them with logic.
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Remember when Russia was the enemy?
 
I think to fully understand the "socialist" smear you need to expand a touch beyond what we (correctly) understand as socialism which is a primarily related to economic aspects of society. The voters that hear the message I think also think of these socialists wanting to take away their religion, burn the flag, and probably also encourage abortions left and right, do drugs all day and force sex change operations on kids or something. Anyway, serious point is that they don't think the same thing we do when they hear "socialist".
 
FahadiHossein said:
Sometimes I wonder why the Republicans are so afraid of "socialism". There are so many developed countries in the world that practice some forms of socialized medicine, with certain drugs, medical procedures that are covered by the government or government insurance and are given to citizens for low price or for free. Go for private healthcare if you are rich or have private insurance for better care.
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The entire, vast funding of the US military is socialist - i.e. not funded privately, but paid for out of taxation and available on demand, free at the point of delivery.

Essentially, many republican voters don't even understand or know what socialism is - they just use it as bogeyman word.
 
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Dwazza Gunnar Solskjær said:
I'm not here to chastise you for your opinion of her and her upbrining. She probably lived a realtively comfortable life, as much as a person from a broken home could, but it's in the day to day where non-white Americans struggle. They face racism in every situation. Want a coffee? You have a good chance of encountering racism. Need some paint from the Home Depot? Racism. The list goes on. No matter how wealthy or successful you are as a non-white in the US, some no mark racist will make you feel like less of a person. That's why African-American and similar descriptors are important terms there. When you consider the melting pot angle, there is some empowerment in the terms as well.
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I do get it. I’m a stark raving hypocrite.

My girl is a Kiwi. Whenever we travel I claim to be a Kiwi too when we meet people. It’s nothing like a racial issue, but I literally claim to be something I’m not on half of my holidays.

I swung for the fences full of emotion and feel I ended up getting walked to first base.

Every day is a lesson.
 
UnrelatedPsuedo said:
Well yes, America is very racist and generally hates non-white people at a frightening rate

But I imagine she grew up more privileged than almost all folks posting on this site.

I wouldn’t try to downplay any racism or adversity she’s faced. But attending Berkeley as a child of two parents with PHD’s speaks more to the intellect and endeavour of her Caribbean-Indian parents than a long lost genetic tie to Africa.

I suspect I’m being a prick. I don’t much like her and often suggest she’s as false as Trumps tan. I’ll quit.
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Wow so you have studied her at depth then?
 
Solius said:
Feel like I could recite these adverts in the CNN breaks verbatim at this point.
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I could swing for that prick in the maze. Like watching a horribly rejuvenated Gyles Brandreth banging on about success.
 
Recount in Georgia.

Not sure it'll matter in the end.
 
Ubik said:
Thanks, I guess it was the margin and it being Sanders' state that threw me off.

Not sure on the rules of Ohio particularly, but in open primaries people can vote in whichever primary they want (or both), whereas in closed you have to be registered to that party. There are then varieties of semi-open and semi-closed that are somewhat in between. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primary_election#Types
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I need a deep dive into this.

It beggars belief that other parties get to vote for who they will ultimately run against.
 
groovyalbert said:
If oversea votes come in overwhelmingly for Trump, it could easily swing back his way there.
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The 9000 overseas vote doesn't mean that 9000 votes will still come in. It might be zero, if every overseas and military voter posted their ballots so that it arrived by November 3.
 
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