2020 US Elections | Biden certified as President | Dems control Congress

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GlastonSpur said:
Yes, and Trump will be 78 and he's in far worse physical shape than Biden. His mental and emotional "eccentricity" will only get worse from here on. In the circumstances, to choose a now-proven loser as their candidate in 4 years from now would be political suicide.
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‘Now-proven loser’ is doing a lot of lifting there, considering the cognitive dissonance of his crowd. And in the same breath, I doubt they have any misgivings about his mental capacity or lack thereof.
 
Mike Smalling said:
Biden won't run again, and the Democrats will have to run Kamala almost by default. It would not be a good look to run someone other than the VP. A lot can happen in 4 years of course, but I would be surprised if America elected a woman of colour in 2024. Biden will be a one-term president and I would guess the White House goes Republican again. Hopefully they manage to find someone who is not insane.
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No they don't. Biden didn't run in 2016. Cheney didn't attempt to run in 2008. Gore was challenged in 2000. Bush the senior was challenged in 1988. It's not a foregone conclusion, and while both sides of the Democrats may have set aside their differences to get Trump out, there is no guarantee that anyone will meekly accept Harris getting a free shot at the Oval Office next time around.
 
owlo said:
Networks are being real cowardly with their projections.

PA and GA should already be called. NV arguably too.
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1. They want Fox to call PA because of Trump.
2. Ad money. CNN literally said "A Biden 60k win in PA is a conservative estimate....but what if Trump wins PA" :lol:
 
Shamana said:
Like Hilary? I wish politics would be more about policy than anything else. Our first Danish female PM was shit. Our current female one is quite good though.
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To elect Trump over Hilary shows how divided the country was. I'm sure there may be a number of female options for 2024 but will be interesting to see if the country goes for it. Europe has a few female leaders.
 
Siorac said:
If Austin continues to attract tech companies with tons of young, highly educated employees, Texas will turn. Trump's margin is less than 6% today, in an election where he did a lot better than expected overall. His advantage has been reduced in Texas compared to four years ago. The trend is clear.
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We have to depend on those yuppies?

I think Texas won't turn until they get a Democrat governor in there that makes voting much easier.
 
adexkola said:
No they don't. Biden didn't run in 2016. Cheney didn't attempt to run in 2008. Gore was challenged in 2000. Bush the senior was challenged in 1988. It's not a foregone conclusion, and while both sides of the Democrats may have set aside their differences to get Trump out, there is no guarantee that anyone will meekly accept Harris getting a free shot at the Oval Office next time around.
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Yeah, if Biden doesn't run, there will be primaries. If Biden suddenly dies a year into his term or something, then it might be different, depending on how President Harris does in the next three years. But that's a far-fetched scenario as of now.
 
Mike Smalling said:
Biden won't run again, and the Democrats will have to run Kamala almost by default. It would not be a good look to run someone other than the VP. A lot can happen in 4 years of course, but I would be surprised if America elected a woman of colour in 2024. Biden will be a one-term president and I would guess the White House goes Republican again. Hopefully they manage to find someone who is not insane.
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Dwayne Johnson will save us all!
 
adexkola said:
We have to depend on those yuppies?

I think Texas won't turn until they get a Democrat governor in there that makes voting much easier.
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Possibly. I was trying to judge by demographic trends, growth of urban areas compared to rural areas, and so on.
 
TheGame said:
If you watched The Trump Show on BBC, you can see that rallies is what he likes, all filled with a bunch of supporters who will cheer and do anything he asks and feed his ego. He would just go round holding rallies all term if he had the choice.
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Not sure rules on profiting while in office but I would imagine he'll profit massively going forward. $30 admission, $10 beers/bottled waters, $25 tees, etc. Probably already siphoned money one way or another the past four years.
 
InfiniteBoredom said:
‘Now-proven loser’ is doing a lot of lifting there, considering the cognitive dissonance of his crowd. And in the same breath, I doubt they have any misgivings about his mental capacity or lack thereof.
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The crazies - his hard core brainwashed supporters - don't control the bulk of the Republican political machine, only pockets here and there. With Trump out office, the machine will no longer be so much in thrall to him. And if the machine chooses against you, which it likely will when it comes to a choice about Trump again, then your chances are very low.
 
Rado_N said:
The amendment wording stipulates that no person can be elected to the office of President more that twice, or once if they have assumed the office previously for a period of more than 2 years.

So for example if Biden wins but has to step down or dies within 2 years then Harris could only run one more time.

So someone could serve 10 years if they assume office half way through a term and run twice more.

I don’t believe, however, that there is anything stopping a former POTUS being a running mate, however unlikely it would be.
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Ah. didnt know about the 2 year things if a VP took over.. JFK was assassinated before he completed 2 years, so I guess that's why LBJ only got 1 full term

adexkola said:
Taft became a Supreme Court justice after his presidency. But back then ex-presidents couldn't earn $1M per speech, so there ye go
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A book deal is where the real money is.. Obama got over 50m from what I remember.
 
CNN claiming Mark Meadows is feeding Trump's delusion by continually parroting fraud claims. And Trump will not concede the election at any stage.
 
adexkola said:
No they don't. Biden didn't run in 2016. Cheney didn't attempt to run in 2008. Gore was challenged in 2000. Bush the senior was challenged in 1988. It's not a foregone conclusion, and while both sides of the Democrats may have set aside their differences to get Trump out, there is no guarantee that anyone will meekly accept Harris getting a free shot at the Oval Office next time around.
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Well, Biden chose not to run due to the loss of his son, and Cheney had already been the de facto president for 8 years ;) but I do take your point. I still think the optics on not running Kamala would be bad.
 
TheGame said:
Come on lads, lets all wear these:

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IT'S GRIFTING TIME !​
 
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I was just looking back at the first page of the Trump Presidency thread, and @bazalini and @Pogue Mahone got it absolutely right about how things would pan out. Other people were understandably assuming that he'd drop the act when he was actually elected. Turned out it wasn't an act at all, it's all he's got.
 
Brwned said:
So what's the feeling now on how bad experts' pre-election predictions were, at this stage?

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Clearly they underestimated the Republican vote in the "tossup states" but they look like calling the winners in every state, and on both sides the narrow winners were not quite so narrow in most cases.
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There was a nation wide underestimation of pro-Trump voter enthusiasm, which explains why he outperformed the state and national polls, as well as why the Republicans improbably managed to pick up house seats when they were -7 in the generic ballot. In summary, Trump was incredibly successful in getting his voters to the polls, but less successful than the opposition were in getting their voters to vote against Trump.
 
Mike Smalling said:
Biden won't run again, and the Democrats will have to run Kamala almost by default. It would not be a good look to run someone other than the VP. A lot can happen in 4 years of course, but I would be surprised if America elected a woman of colour in 2024. Biden will be a one-term president and I would guess the White House goes Republican again. Hopefully they manage to find someone who is not insane.
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Harris will not be on the ticket in 2024.
 
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