2018 US Elections

I’m pretty sure we do, fairly sure there’s nothing on the ballot that can identify who it’s come from.
Then they wouldn’t be able to do this...
they match your voter ID to the paper ballot

On top of that, if you don’t have an ID at all, which is the current controversial topic, then you’d have no ID to produce to prove that you are who you say you are anyway.
 
Then they wouldn’t be able to do this...


On top of that, if you don’t have an ID at all, which is the current controversial topic, then you’d have no ID to produce to prove that you are who you say you are anyway.

We don’t need ID but I think it’d be fairly difficult to produce any sort of meaningful voter fraud. You’re registered at your address and can only vote at your designated polling station, to mobilise enough people to cast enough votes before the correct person gets there would be almost impossible.
 
We don’t need ID but I think it’d be fairly difficult to produce any sort of meaningful voter fraud. You’re registered at your address and can only vote at your designated polling station, to mobilise enough people to cast enough votes before the correct person gets there would be almost impossible.
It’s the same here. We have a set precinct... But that’s not my point.

The situation I’m describing could leave the individual disenfranchised, and I would personally be pretty pissed about losing a constitutional right because someone just signed next to my name.
 
We don’t need ID but I think it’d be fairly difficult to produce any sort of meaningful voter fraud. You’re registered at your address and can only vote at your designated polling station, to mobilise enough people to cast enough votes before the correct person gets there would be almost impossible.

What if someone is a racist nursing home owner?

he would know the names and info of old people that 100% won't vote.

he could go and vote for every one of them?
 
Devils advocate here, but... what if you go to the polling place and there’s already a signature next to your name?

When I go to the polling station, I go to the table according with the alphabet of my surname and say my name and they look me up so I can sign and get my ballot.

So someone would have to say my name and get my ballot if they were wanting to vote fraudulently.

Even if such a thing happened, they would send a notice to me saying someone else voted on my behalf should I have gone after someone did the act.

I cant be sure . but this would be a red flag they would pursue. I have never heard of it. So it must not have happened.

But I did have the following experience.

Someone called in 2016 asking for donation for Hillary and I let her know how mad I was about her nomination. I wont donate.

When I went to the polling station, I was asked for my ID. Never happened before. I showed my ID and voted for Stein.

I complained to the SoS office and let them know how mad I was about it.
 
It’s the same here. We have a set precinct... But that’s not my point.

The situation I’m describing could leave the individual disenfranchised, and I would personally be pretty pissed about losing a constitutional right because someone just signed next to my name.

I’m guessing the thought is that preventing the tiny amount of electoral fraud going on wouldn’t outweigh the amount of people who would potentially be unable to then vote.

If the numbers here are right then the number is tiny

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-voting-bromley-polling-station-a8334961.html

What if someone is a racist nursing home owner?

he would know the names and info of old people that 100% won't vote.

he could go and vote for every one of them?

No, no one running the polling station is going to give him all those ballot papers.
 
I’m guessing the thought is that preventing the tiny amount of electoral fraud going on wouldn’t outweigh the amount of people who would potentially be unable to then vote.

If the numbers here are right then the number is tiny

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-voting-bromley-polling-station-a8334961.html



No, no one running the polling station is going to give him all those ballot papers.

But obviously not at the same time and with he same voting personnel.

Go, vote for one, then go to a different voting station, vote for another old man... rinse and repeat? is that possible?
 
But obviously not at the same time and with he same voting personnel.

Go, vote for one, then go to a different voting station, vote for another old man... rinse and repeat? is that possible?

Unlikely because it would have to be at the same polling station as they’d be registered at the same one. Unless they were still registered at their previous family home address and he’d have to figure out where each of their polling stations are and do the rounds, assuming that a postal or proxy vote hadn’t already been cast which is fairly likely for old people as they live for that.

I mean it could happen but it almost certainly wouldn’t and the fraud numbers seem to back it up.
 
Huh? Surely the actual ballot is completely devoid of identifying information, making this impossible?

Certainly when I vote in Norway there is nothing distinguishing my vote from anyone else's. It's just a folded bit of paper. Secret elections and all that.
It's not quite like that in the UK.

Every voter has an elector number, every ballot paper has a serial number. When the numbered ballot paper is given to the voter, the elector number is entered on the counterfoil/stub. Therefore, in theory it would be possible to go through the ballot papers and identify who someone's voted for by cross-checking against the counterfoils and finding the elector number (and thus the voter).

However, this is (obviously) illegal and would be very difficult to do - all the paperwork is kept securely for a year and then the papers, counterfoils etc are destroyed. Ballot boxes are sealed until the count.
 
I’m pretty sure we do, fairly sure there’s nothing on the ballot that can identify who it’s come from.
http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/+/http:/www.dca.gov.uk/elections/gen-elec-brief-info.pdf

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I've voted plenty of times and always seen them look at my name on the list, cross it off then say the number to someone else sitting next to them. They then write the number on the counterfoil so votes can be tracked but not really done as people are mostly trusted not to be swines.
 
It's not quite like that in the UK.

Every voter has an elector number, every ballot paper has a serial number. When the numbered ballot paper is given to the voter, the elector number is entered on the counterfoil/stub. Therefore, in theory it would be possible to go through the ballot papers and identify who someone's voted for by cross-checking against the counterfoils and finding the elector number (and thus the voter).

However, this is (obviously) illegal and would be very difficult to do - all the paperwork is kept securely for a year and then the papers, counterfoils etc are destroyed. Ballot boxes are sealed until the count.
Thanks. Knew I wasn't going mad. Not quite as simple as the way I stated it in my previous post but the information is above for those curious.
 
Thanks. Knew I wasn't going mad. Not quite as simple as the way I stated it in my previous post but the information is above for those curious.
You're never mad, Damien! You'd have to have access to the list of Registered Voters to put names to the numbers, of course, which would make it pretty difficult to do. The marked ballot papers on their own mean nothing.
 
can't wait for these exit polls.

CNN and MSNBC are being very calm and measured. to me this would point to Trump being Fcuked.

can't see them doing anything on Senate
 
What time shall I set my alarm for then? 5am going to be early enough?
 
CNN saying of people who voted.

Approve Donald Trump 44%
Disapprove 55%

My first thought is that is not so bad for Trump


I suppose what this shows is that the Dems got their vote out.
 
When I go to the polling station, I go to the table according with the alphabet of my surname and say my name and they look me up so I can sign and get my ballot.

So someone would have to say my name and get my ballot if they were wanting to vote fraudulently.
@Snowjoe
Gotcha. It has been so long since SC went to voter ID that I can't remember what we did before it.

I don't necessarily like the requirement of an ID to vote, but the obtaining of one has never seemed that big of a deal to me either. I got one when I turned 5 or 6 years old and have had one since... and it seems common sense to me that in the 21st century, you'd want everyone in your country to have one.