2018 US Elections

The debates should really allow him a chance to get in the lead.

Seen some commentators say that Cruz is a master debater, but I think he’s just better in a more academic sense, whereas Beto clearly connects better with his audience. Which isn’t that hard anyway because there’s surely no way Ted Cruz is human.
 
Giant Midget said:
Seen some commentators say that Cruz is a master debater
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It's because they're looking at people's records and reading that he went to Harvard where he joined some kind of debating club and clearly everyone who went to Harvard and hung out with the massive nerds is going to be a master debater. It's obviously nonsense, all you need is to be a public speaker for years and most people in politics have as much public speaking experience as he does.
 
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Giant Midget said:
The debates should really allow him a chance to get in the lead.

Seen some commentators say that Cruz is a master debater, but I think he’s just better in a more academic sense, whereas Beto clearly connects better with his audience. Which isn’t that hard anyway because there’s surely no way Ted Cruz is human.
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His debating skills are highly overrated imo, and whatever benefit they may bring are immediately undercut by his dislikability.
 
Doesn't go negative once...which at the end makes Carlson look pretty ridiculous....and in the process frames himself as fairly viable to Fox viewers.

 
Raoul said:
One of the reasons Beto has likely closed the gap is that he actually bothers to campaign in every county statewide, whereas previous Dems stayed largely in the big cities. That can make a massive difference, especially if someone is running on a somewhat populist message.

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Beto 2020?
 
HEALTH CARE LOBBYISTS SECRETLY SECURE DEMOCRATS’ OPPOSITION TO “MEDICARE FOR ALL,” INTERNAL DOCUMENTS SHOW
Hawaii’s 1st District seat, which was vacated by incumbent Democratic Rep. Colleen Hanabusa, who is running for governor, has attracted six serious candidates to the Democratic primary in this reliably blue district. According to documents obtained by The Intercept, at least three of the candidates took time out from their schedules to talk to a consultant dispatched by the Healthcare Leadership Council, a lobbying group that seeks to advance the goals of the largest players in the private health care industry.

Now, the 1st District candidates working with the Healthcare Leadership Council — former state Sen. Donna Mercado Kim, Hawaii Lt. Gov. Doug Chin, and Honolulu City Council Member Ernest Martin — are taking heat from their opponents for talking to an industry-friendly group, even as public opinion is increasingly rallying to positions opposed by giant health care companies.

“Democrats running in a primary election will say they support ‘Medicare for All,’ but what do they say to lobbyists behind the scenes?” said Kaniela Ing, a state lawmaker vying for the 1st District seat on a democratic socialist platform, warning of Democrats who make progressive promises when campaigning, but then work hand in hand with industries when in office. “We need health care champions, not puppets.”

One of the leading candidates has campaigned on a promise to crack down on over-priced pharmaceuticals and promote single payer health care, but told the consultant dispatched by the Healthcare Leadership Council that he would maintain drug industry-friendly pricing policies and views Medicare for All with skepticism.

The Healthcare Leadership Council has closely tracked what its lobbyists have described as the “leftward movement” within the Democratic Party. In Hawaii and other states, the lobby group wanted to know if ideas popularized by Sen., Bernie Sanders, I-Vt. — such as aggressive proposals to reduce the cost of pharmaceuticals and institute a single-payer health care system modeled on Medicare — were taking hold.

The council, which spends over $5 million a year on industry advocacy and brings together chief executives of major health corporations, represents an array of health industries, including insurers, hospitals, drugmakers, medical device manufacturers, pharmacies, health product distributors, and information technology companies.
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utdalltheway said:
Priorities. Free education and free healthcare are not, even for a lot of Dems.
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I don't believe Sanders' health care proposal involved gutting defense spending in favor of his plans, probably because he knew it would be dead in the water if he even thought about it.
 
Richest country in the world.
Could be the greatest with a shift in priorities, but that’s not what America is about.
MAGA, my arse!
 
Charlie Foley said:
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2...17-billion-military-spending-bill-trumps-desk

@Eboue
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Here are the ten senators who voted against the spending measure: Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), Ed Markey (D-Mass.), Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.), Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), Kamala Harris (D-Calif.), Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.), Ron Wyden (D-Ore.), Mike Lee (R-Utah.), and Marco Rubio (R-Fla.).
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What's Rubio doing there??? And no Rand Paul :confused:


Also, in that list of 10 are the 2020 hopefuls excluding Booker.
 
utdalltheway said:
Priorities. Free education and free healthcare are not, even for a lot of Dems.
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Public money spent on healthcare in your country is on the same level as those in countries with free healthcare ( Percentage relative to the GDP). https://www.healthsystemtracker.org...e-sector-spending-triple-comparable-countries
So the problem is not the amount of $$$ spent, it is the efficency of the system.
Price of pharmaceuticals, overtreatment and demand for access to tech(number of MRI/pet scanners per citizen), fraud and defensive medicine done to avoid potential litigation..

So with the money spent per capita in the US there should be enough to provide free healthcare for all.
 
I think universal healthcare in America is inevitable.
Any self respecting advanced country should have it.
 
berbatrick said:
What's Rubio doing there??? And no Rand Paul :confused:


Also, in that list of 10 are the 2020 hopefuls excluding Booker.
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I'm not sure about Rubio or Paul, was surprised by that as well mate.

Interesting shout on the presidential hopefuls. I noticed Book of course. His whole "thing" is being a centrist.
 
Eboue said:
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Comes as no surprise sadly. Whats going to be amazing is if Bernie wins the nominee for 2020 election they(Centrist Dems)will run some slime ball millionaire as a 3rd party candidate to try and stop him from winning the presidency.
 
Sweet Square said:
Comes as no surprise sadly. Whats going to be amazing is if Bernie wins the nominee for 2020 election they(Centrist Dems)will run some slime ball millionaire as a 3rd party candidate to try and stop him from winning the presidency.
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Highly doubtful. If Bernie wins the nomination they will get behind him.
 
I can't express in words how much joy I'd take from Cruz losing, it would be feckin glorious - but i dont think it will happen. I hate Trump as much as the next man, but I appreciate how brilliantly he took Cruz down, and more-or-less ended his presidential ambitions with the 'Lyin Ted' nickname.
 
Tarrou said:
I can't express in words how much joy I'd take from Cruz losing, it would be feckin glorious - but i dont think it will happen. I hate Trump as much as the next man, but I appreciate how brilliantly he took Cruz down, and more-or-less ended his presidential ambitions with the 'Lyin Ted' nickname.
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He should still win but it's going to be hillarious watching him squirm and actually have to work for it.
 
06:40 - O'Rourke's description of what congress people are expected to do on behalf of donors is pretty diabolical

37:40 - How Medicare for all plays with people not on the left

 
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