2016 Olympics host decided today

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Well todays the day when one of the four cities will be given the right to host the worlds biggest event. Closest contest for a long time. Thanks to the Beeb here's the details of the conenders.

Chicago
Odds: 8/11 favourites*
Proposed dates: Olympic Games 22 July-7 August.Paralympic Games 12 August-28 August.

Overview:

Chicago was chosen ahead of four other US cities to bid for the Games - Houston, Los Angeles, Philadelphia and San Francisco.

The city plans to build five new permanent venues and 11 temporary ones, with 22 of their planned 27 venues in four clusters within 15km of the Olympic Village, which will be based south of McCormick Place and itself house 11 venues. The new venues will compliment existing structures such as Soldier Field, United Center, Sears Center and Wrigley Field.

The bid costs ($49.3m/£33.3m) are being borne by the private sector, as are the costs of the Games, while infrastructure costs will be financed by the US government.

Pros: It is expected that Chicago's world-class architecture, renowned skyline, multi-cultural, historical, and pop-cultural contributions will be positive factors as the Olympics bid is weighed, while the city also boasts significant transportation infrastructure.

Although there is no official IOC rotation policy, the Americas may have an edge as previous games will have been held in Asia, Europe, and Australia: London, Beijing, Athens, and Sydney.

Cons: In a long standing dispute with the IOC, some IOC members also resent the large share of revenue taken by the United States Olympic Committee. Additionally, the controversy over the participation of Cuba in the 2006 World Baseball Classic is said to have hurt America's chances.
What they say: "We've got two great plusses, we think - the City itself, the passionate, sports-loving diverse people of our city who really want to welcome the world back to the States. And the plan itself is also a real winning plan - not just a compact Games plan but one that's in the heart of the city.

"So if the Olympics come here people will walk out of their hotel and straight into sports venues, or our theatres, our museums, our restaurants. It's a very city-central Games."
Chicago 2016 spokesman Patrick Sandusky

Face of the bid: A feast of the rich and famous are backing the bid. Basketball legend Michael Jordan has become an unofficial spokesman for Chicago's cause, while President Barack Obama - a former Illinois senator - media mogul Oprah Winfrey and Olympic champion swimmer Michael Phelps have also lent their considerable support.

Fact of the bid: Chicago was actually chosen to stage the 1904 summer Olympics, but the Games were moved to St Louis to coincide with the World's Fair.

Madrid
Odds: 12/1*
Proposed dates: Olympic Games 5 August-21 August. Paralympic Games 9 September-20 September.

Overview:

Madrid, one of the few major European capitals yet to host the Games, hopes to follow in the footsteps of Barcelona, which brought the Olympics to Spain in 1992.

Madrid's pedigree is a good one, with 85% of venues already built and in place, and a history of hosting Olympic qualifying events. Split into two clusters, the competition venues will be shared between the Eastern Zone and the River Zone, with Madrid currently completing new swimming and tennis venues and looking to expand and modernise existing sporting facilities.

The city's bid - estimated cost $42m (£28.6m) - will be entirely underwritten by the government.

Pros: Madrid hope to build on their 2012 bid which, though ultimately unsuccessful, prompted a good reaction from the IOC - it was overall second in technical evaluation, while the city was ranked top in seven categories; "Government support, legal issues and public opinion", "General infrastructure", "Environment", "Sports venues", "Olympic Village", "Transport concept" and "Overall project and legacy".

Cons: The greatest downfall of Madrid's bid, though, could be that the 2012 summer Games is scheduled in London and the 2014 winter Games due to take place in Sochi, Russia. Staging three consecutive Olympic Games in Europe would, on the face of it, appear unlikely.
What they say: "I can almost promise that we will make all the members of the Olympic family, everybody who has anything to do with the Olympic Games, not just 16 days of extraordinary competition but a very joyful 16 days and a very happy seven years in the run-up. Vitality is not a joke, it's a serious proposal."
Juan Antonio Samaranch Jr, Spanish IOC member

Face of the bid: Flamenco dancer Sara Baras has been named official envoy of the bid, while officials and players from local football clubs Real and Atletico Madrid - including Raul and Iker Casillas - are lending their support.

Fact of the bid: In the 2012 bidding process, Madrid actually placed first in the third round ahead of London and Paris, before being eliminated in the fourth round.

Rio de Janeiro
Odds: 7/4*
Proposed dates: Olympic Games 5 August-21 August. Paralympic Games 7 September-18 September

Overview:

The Brazilian Olympic Commitee chose Rio de Janeiro ahead of Sao Paulo three years ago to bid for the 2016 Olympic Games. It is the first time the city has proceeded to the candidature stage after failed attempts for the 1936, 1940, 2004 and 2012 Games.

Rio plans to stage all the competitions inside the city, bringing "dynamics to the games and facilitating the athlete's interaction", according to the bid website. There will be seven competition centres in four Olympic regions - Barra, Copacabana, Deodoro, and Maracana - with football matches held in the cities of Belo Horizonte, Brasilia, Salvador and Sao Paulo.

Rio's bid is divided into a $2.8bn (£1.92bn) budget for operating costs, and $14.4bn (£9.90bn) for construction and security.

Also, the city's infrastructure - including major, and recently renovated, airport Antonio Carlos Jobim International Airport (Galeao) - will aid the city's bid.

Pros: Rio's successful staging of the Pan-American Games in 2007 - labelled the "best in history" by the president of the Pan-American Sports Organisation - and their future hosting of the 2014 World Cup will only add to the city's experience and bolster their burgeoning reputation.

The fact that giving the 2016 Olympics to Brazil would uphold IOC president Jacques Rogge's "rotation of continents" philosophy also lends great weight to the potential success of the bid.

Cons: The city can count itself somewhat fortunate to have made the last four after scoring below Doha in the IOC's weighted-average score, eventually only winning through - it is believed - because of Doha's small population, lack of facilities and plans to stage the Games outside of the IOC's proposed window.

What they say: "We have a feeling that many IOC members wish to change, to give an opportunity for new continents, new cities, new countries, a new atmosphere for the Games. It is clear the youth of the world come from every part of the world."
Carlos Nuzman, president of Rio 2016 bid committee

Face of the bid: The bid has great political and popular support, from Brazil and other countries in the region, but the 'face' gets no more famous or influential than legendary footballer Pele.

Fact of the bid: Brazil has already secured the right to host the 2014 World Cup and has its sights on the fourth double hosting in history; after Mexico in 1968 and 1970, Germany in 1972 and 1974, and the United States in 1994 and 1996.

Tokyo
Odds: 12-1*
Proposed dates: Olympic Games 29 July-14 August. Paralympic Games 31 August-11 September
Overview:

Tokyo was selected as Japan's candidate city in August 2006, beating off competition from Fukuoka on the island of Kyushu and, reportedly, Osaka, Sapporo and Nagoya.

Tokyo is touting "the most compact and efficient Olympic Games ever" with a dramatic setting on the waterfront, enabling the city to redevelop a rundown area, previously primarily used for industry and shipping, just as London and Barcelona did in previous hostings.

Tokyo plans to construct a new 100,000-seater stadium but, of the 34 planned venues, 23 already exist with many venues used during the 1964 Games set to be refurbished.

A budget of 400bn yen (£3.06bn) for construction of the venues and infrastructure has already been put aside by the government, while organisational costs of 310bn yen (£2.37bn) will be raised through sponsorship and marketing, although it has been underwritten by government.

Pros: The city's successful staging of the 2002 Football World Cup, 1964 Summer Olympics and 1972 and 1998 Winter Olympics mark it out as arguably the most experienced player in the last four, while it will also boast excellent public transportation, including three ring roads which are currently being built around the city to help reduce congestion problems, and ample accommodation for visitors.

Cons: Tokyo could suffer from the fact that Beijing hosted the Games in 2008, although it would by no means be the first time the Olympics have been staged on the same continent within eight years.

What they say: "I'm so happy that we have the budget already secured in cash. It is quite meaningful and I think this is a strong point of [the bid]."
Hidetoshi Maki, deputy director general, Tokyo 2016

Face of the bid: Only a few top-level sports stars hail from Tokyo and even fewer are recognisable outside of Asia - but Hidetoshi Maki has dismissed that as a failing, saying: "The Olympics is not staged by the person, it is staged by a team. We are promoting the team and the city itself."

Fact of the bid: London's successful 2012 bid has had a great influence on the Tokyo 2016 bid, with Maki adding: "We are so impressed with the London bid. They believe that the Olympics promote sport to the youth and all the ages. That idea is followed by Tokyo."

Personally I'm hoping for Rio, a samba Olympics would be superb. The smart money is on Chicago with Obama real pressing for the promotion of his home town. Any one else got a preffered city.
 
I hope to Chicago lose, I want Rio

See i reckon Rio is the worlds choice. Lets see if the Olympic comittee can see past the dollar though.
 
Watching the presentations now. The Obamas may have just nailed it for Chicago. Tokyo aren't looking very impressive.
 
Tokyo trying to play the green card. Don't think it will be enough. Tokyo has kept to sports but didnt seem to light the place up. With the Chicago one they did't really concentrate on sport but when Michele Obama came on the feeling of the pitch changed and the Chicao bid seemed to suddenly light up. Tokyo's just seemed dull.
 
Chicago has this in the bag.

I reckon so too but i believe Brazil deserve it. South America does deserve an Olympic games though. Prseident Lualu doing a good job for Rio at the moment.
 
Rio's vids have been the best so far too. Tokyo's presentation was very underwhelming. I don't think they played to their strenghs enough. Chicagos wasnt that brilliant until the Obamas turned up either. Their presentation video felt more like a lecture on the history of Chicago and it's blues roots.
 
Good presentation by Rio all in. They seemed to have the tougher question time out of all the bids so far. The fact that Brazil have the world cup was brought up and the crime levels in the question time. It may go against them.
 
What started off with arrogance is quickly turning into the most proffesional looking presentation so far today by Madrid.
 
If not for Obama, this would be heading to Rio or saving that, Madrid. But he is, so...

Samarach has a lot of influence mind, and i'm fairly certain that Madrid will get the British vote, for the rumour goes that such a deal was done back when London was awarded the games for 2012.

It's gonna be close.
 
In times of recession, th Olympic vote does tend to go to the states as well.
 
Can't see Madrid getting it though straight after London.
 
In times of recession, th Olympic vote does tend to go to the states as well.

I haven't seen any of the presentations, did the Brazilians play on the fact that they are hosting the World Cup? That surely counts in their favour.

I remember the London promo video made me very emotional four years ago, it was throat tightening, goosebumps, emotional. Somehow, subconsciously at that moment, i think it thought we're gonna do this.


I know NBC and the Americans put in a lot of money but as goes sport and that special something, Rio stand out. I've got two words for the IOC, Beach Volleyball. ;)
 
Based on the fact that it will probably signal another of Glenn Beck's insane conspiracy theories, I do hope Chicago gets it.

Either way it will. If They win then it will be treated as Obama's financial folly, a great cash hole to throw money into. If Chicago fails, then it will be presented as another indication of Obama failing, and how little the world thinks of this president. It's a win-win day for the republican media.
 
Samarach playing the sympathy for him card as he won't be around much longer would you let me see another Olympics in my country.
 
I haven't seen any of the presentations, did the Brazilians play on the fact that they are hosting the World Cup? That surely counts in their favour.

I remember the London promo video made me very emotional four years ago, it was throat tightening, goosebumps, emotional. Somehow, subconsciously at that moment, i think it thought we're gonna do this.


I know NBC and the Americans put in a lot of money but as goes sport and that special something, Rio stand out. I've got two words for the IOC, Beach Volleyball. ;)

Sorry nick didn't notice, don't get anxious, heres your reply. They played more on the idea of the city being the most fun city in the world. They had to play down theworld cup and in the qustions afterwards it seemed a real problem for them. They had to reiterate that the world cup is for Brazil. The Olympics are for Rio. They also played on the fact that south america has never held an Olympic games.

King Carlos of Spain has just been on saying the world will be a better place thanks to the Olympics in Madrid. :lol: and Tores has just been on a video promo saying 'he showed off.'
 
Madrids presentation is done and it was the best today. Got a bit smarmy in parts but it was very proffesional.
 
First round of voting at 4.10 pm
 
Ok a round up of my views so far.

Chicago .Didn't really inspire me, they seemed to be lecturing in their presentation and it came across at times that it was more of a lesson of how blues and Chicago are tied together. Then the first lady took to the stage, followed by her Husband POTUS. They swayed the whole mood of the vote.

Things for: It's the states and they always give good olympics. This is the first time the President has thrown his full weight behind it. They tend to get Olympics during reccession times.

Things against: Culturally what would we be getting thats any different from Atlanta or LA. Vancouver are having the Winter Olympics soon so surely North America has had it's go this decade. The presentation could have been better.

Tokyo.
The worst presentation of the day. It tried to play the green card and gave us all a traditional view of Japan. Not much of the thing really stuck in my mind.

Things For. Well it would be an interesting opening show.

Things Against. We've just had an Oriental games. They didn't play to their strengths. Who wants to hear Green Games. Screw that. We want Tecnho games with giant Mecha suits charging around lighting the olympic flame from robotic ninja's in shool girl clothes fired from their arseholes.

Rio. A well presented campaign and one that looks like it would be the most fun. The booze and Samba olympics. Carnivale for the world.

Things for. The continent of South America has never held an Olympic games. It would culturally be very different than what has ben seen before. Brazil have a strong econonomy. They've promised to plant 25 million trees back into the Amazon playing to the greenies. It does look like it would be one long piss up for the city.

Things against: They were beaten in the first round by Doho( :confused: me neither) and only got through on a technicality. Doho had to withdraw. The world cup is happening in 2014 in Brazil and that may play against them. The crime and drugs of the favellas may play against them. It does look like it will be one long piss up for the city.

Madrid.
The most professional and well presented of the lot. Their videos did tend to towards schmalts but their programme of development both archtitecturly and culturally. They also had Samaranch on their side. They tried to use Raul the same way we used Beckham. Didn't quite work the same tough.

Things for: They know what they are doing and seem like they could host the Olympics tomorrow. Samaranch will still have some pull in the IOC. Culturally we know it will be great.

Things Against. London hosting the games just before them. Can't see it going to another European country straight away. They came across like real Madrid. Arrogant and slimey. They've also just had Ronaldo from us, used him in their promotional video and who do ou think will be at the front of the que for the building contracts making billions. Florentino Perez. Making more Billions so fcuk that i say.

Go RIO!!!
 
If they live up to the promise of 25,000,000 trees replanted, it's easily Rio. Plus it offers something much different to the rest, what with that South American atmosphere.
 
If they live up to the promise of 25,000,000 trees replanted, it's easily Rio. Plus it offers something much different to the rest, what with that South American atmosphere.

They did have the hardest question and answer session. One being that with all the pledges they have made how will they guarantee doing them. Their President gave the best showing out of all the dignitaries though. He just didn't have that wow factor of the Obama's.
 
They did have the hardest question and answer session. One being that with all the pledges they have made how will they guarantee doing them. Their President gave the best showing out of all the dignitaries though. He just didn't have that wow factor of the Obama's.

That's understandable really, a promise to plant 25 million trees is a very big promise and one that's hard to keep. If they do, it's worth an Olympics for it alone imho, I never bought into all this 'save the trees' until I watched that Lost Land Of the Volcano on BBC and it shown how even a relatively unknown rainforest is being raped, let alone the Amazon. Without sound preachy or silly I think it's imperative the planet starts replanting something so vital for our existence.
 
That's understandable really, a promise to plant 25 million trees is a very big promise and one that's hard to keep. If they do, it's worth an Olympics for it alone imho, I never bought into all this 'save the trees' until I watched that Lost Land Of the Volcano on BBC and it shown how even a relatively unknown rainforest is being raped, let alone the Amazon. Without sound preachy or silly I think it's imperative the planet starts replanting something so vital for our existence.

Fortuanetly Brazil is moving up economically as a power, hopefully now it will start to balance out and the need to deforest will slow down. There's no reason they can't start ecological lumber farming over periods of 20 years. As they are doing in the states now.
 
Voting closed lets see if it goes to another round.
 
Fortuanetly Brazil is moving up economically as a power, hopefully now it will start to balance out and the need to deforest will slow down. There's no reason they can't start ecological lumber farming over periods of 20 years. As they are doing in the states now.

I'm certainly hopeful Brazil's economic condition will help to begin major reforestation and stop deforestation.

Anyway, Go Rio!
 
Second round of voting is closed. Really surprised at Chicago being out in the first round.
 
Tokyo is out It's between Madrid and RIO