2010 Baseball Season

Tabata said:
What am I missing here? Surely this comment isn't serious?
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Um, no, you're not missing anything, and it's dead serious and unbias.

If you can name 5 better pitching prospects that aren't MLB called, outright, then i'll revoke my comment and bow down to you... The thing is, they don't exist.
 
You really think its unbias its only Sox fans I hear that from about Kelly. Anyway I think we all over rate are own prospects think there better then others.

I don't know much about Kelly though is he better then Strasburg.
 
MrMarcello said:
I've heard Halladay to LAA makes the most sense as they have the prospects to pull of such a deal and they need him more than BOS or NYY.
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Halladay has stated he prefers the east coast and a team that has spring training in Florida (where he lives in the off season).

LAA offers neither.

Halladay to the Bombers...and the Empire will live on.

Doc
CC
AJ
Pettite
Joba or Hughes (one will be gone in the trade for Halladay along with Montero)

If the Yanks don't get Doc, then they will get Lackey, and the rotation will be

CC
Lackey
AJ
Petitte
Joba & Hughes


I wonder if it's worth taking a punt on Wang on a 1 year deal?
 
Anderson Searl said:
Um, no, you're not missing anything, and it's dead serious and unbias.

If you can name 5 better pitching prospects that aren't MLB called, outright, then i'll revoke my comment and bow down to you... The thing is, they don't exist.
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Why would I need to name 5? You said he was THE best prospect in baseball, period. Meaning he was the number one guy and there was no one out there who was better.

With all that said he clearly isn't.
 
Halladay to Phillies
Cliff Lee to Seattle
Lackey to Red Sox

All 3 but done?
 
Also Mike Cameron in serious talks with Red Sox on two-year deal CF or LF unclear from Fox. Sox just got allot better today also I've read there still looking at Adrian Gonzalez.
 
-------------Ellsbury-----------
Cameron------------------Drew
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Youkilis------------------V Mart
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For Timmy... That is sick.

Obviously things will change, you have to include Varitek in there at some point, and if we make a move for 3rd base then things will change, but we're looking pretty fecking good right now
 
Scutaro should have a good year next year, was pretty good for us last season
 
Looks like the Jays, Phillies, Seattle deal could be announced today. Apparently Halladay had a medical in Philadelphia yesterday
 
Not sure about signing Cameron. He's getting on a bit and as this is probably his last contract will he just be a wage player. Hopefully playing at Fenway will inspire him. Liking the Lackey signing though. Experienced, still at his peak and some nice playoff wins in the bank as well.
 
Nearco said:
Not sure about signing Cameron. He's getting on a bit and as this is probably his last contract will he just be a wage player. Hopefully playing at Fenway will inspire him. Liking the Lackey signing though. Experienced, still at his peak and some nice playoff wins in the bank as well.
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Both signings also give us more freedom to trade Buchholz, Ellsbury and Bowden, who are probably coveted moreso than other players in our system.

I think it's pretty clear we're going to make a run for Adrian Gonzo
 
The Red Sox outfield defence will be the best in the majors though.

Cashman is quiet at the moment I bet he is planning something.
 
Does any of you more seasoned ball fans know anything about John Buck? We've just got him on a one year deal and looks likely to be our main catcher next year (mainly due to a lack of catching staff).
 
F-Red said:
Does any of you more seasoned ball fans know anything about John Buck? We've just got him on a one year deal and looks likely to be our main catcher next year (mainly due to a lack of catching staff).
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I'm super confused as to what AA's plan is with the catching situation, but he will probably (short-term) be the guy to start... Though it looks like a platoon situation between three guys, I think there's still potential to improve on the situation, so signing guys short-term (Him, Ramon Castro & Raul Chavez), and getting a good prospect in Travis D'Arnaud makes the situation look at least optional.
 
Cheers AS, yeah i think the catchers spot will be a contentious issue right until Buck's first game. It's clear Rod Barajas isn't happy with the money we're offering & in a way i hope he'll go as it'll mean we could have some big picks in the 2010 first player draft.

Halladay has gone to the Phillies & in return we've got Drabek, Taylor & D'Arnaud. All down as prospects, but whether it'll yield anything in return for the franchise is a different question.
 
Yankees interested in bringing Nick Johnson back? Id take him, anyone with an OBP of over .400 gets my vote.
 
F-Red said:
Cheers AS, yeah i think the catchers spot will be a contentious issue right until Buck's first game. It's clear Rod Barajas isn't happy with the money we're offering & in a way i hope he'll go as it'll mean we could have some big picks in the 2010 first player draft.

Halladay has gone to the Phillies & in return we've got Drabek, Taylor & D'Arnaud. All down as prospects, but whether it'll yield anything in return for the franchise is a different question.
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Drabek is A-level for sure, but his physical ability is questioned, and his defensive skills (Especially in a dome) will probably be a negative... He's got MLB ready stuff, but mentally needs strengths.

Taylor got instant traded, you didn't see that?

And D'Arnaud I think is Canadian and the future catcher.

MrMarcello said:
I could have swore AS was rooting for the Yankees in the Series.
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I see what you did there... bastard
 
MrMarcello said:
Javier Vazquez to the Yanks for Melky Cabrera and two prospects.

Yankees land Javier Vazquez in deal with Braves that sends Melky Cabrera, two prospects to Atlanta
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What a steal that is I know in 04 he was horrid in the second half of the year but I just heard he was hurt with shoulder problems. He was one of the top 5 pitchers in the NL last year with 237 k's and a 2.87 ERA with a 1.03 WHIP. I'm surprised how many Yankees fans don't like this move its only Melky not like they traded Joba, Hughes or Montero.
 
Leg-End said:
Number 4 spot sorted then, just LF to fix now I hope.
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Great move, now with the market for LF's only big name players, expect a splash.

The Yankees look like repeating, but we're the closest to them this year, so maybe a ALCS re-unting ;)
 
I'm not sure really, Cashman has stated he likes next years Free Agent class so I can't see the budget being compromised for a big name like Holliday.
 
They'll bring back Damon for a year.

Cashman didn't want to trade Javier in 2004 (part of the Johnson trade) but Georgie wanted the big name lefty, who was nearing the end. They should have acquired Johnson that summer and I do think he'd have pushed them past Boston. They got him about six months too late and by 2005 he was on the decline.

I think Yankees fans are just thinking of that homerun in 2004 and not seeing the big picture. Vazquez will slot in nicely. He may not be an AL pitcher per say but in that lineup an ERA below 5 should be enough to win 12-16 games. The smart move for NYY would be to push Joba to the setup role, and future successor to Rivera, and start Hughes or another pitcher from the minors. Or perhaps find a scrap heap guy like Fogg, L Hernandez or Milton (the latter is a big gamble with his recent injury bugs).

Any word on Erik Bedard?
 
That's what I think they will do I said it after Cash didnt offer Damon Arb he will be this years Abreu. I've also read Yanks intrested in De Rosa I wouldn't mind him as he can play 3rd when A-Rod needs to DH.
 
Interesting stat. Vazquez finished the decade second behind Johnson for most strikeouts, about a hundred fewer. He was nearly 300 above third (Santana). He's also averaged about 220 IP per year over the last ten years. The guy is a workhouse. This looks a great move on paper.
 
Vazquez is overrated. That said, it's a pretty good deal for the Yankees as long as they do something with their outfield. Gardner, Granderson, and Swisher won't cut it.

At least Vazquez is on a contract year so he should play a little better. That, coupled with the fact that if he leaves the Yankees get two first round picks, makes it a pretty good deal.
 
nyrfan818 said:
Vazquez is overrated. That said, it's a pretty good deal for the Yankees as long as they do something with their outfield. Gardner, Granderson, and Swisher won't cut it.

At least Vazquez is on a contract year so he should play a little better. That, coupled with the fact that if he leaves the Yankees get two first round picks, makes it a pretty good deal.
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I wouldn't say he's over-rated, he's in his place now as a inning eating, strikeout grabbing 4th starter.
 
Anderson Searl said:
I wouldn't say he's over-rated, he's in his place now as a inning eating, strikeout grabbing 4th starter.
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He's overrated when you consider that some people are saying this was an absolute steal for the Yankees. It's a good 4th starter for an average hitting/above average fielding outfielder. It's not a steal by any means for the Yankees.

Also, a lot of my mates who are big fantasy baseball fans overrate him simply because he's better in fantasy baseball than he is in real life.
 
He might be overrated as a player but as a deal I think it is a steal. Javy one of the top pitchers in the NL last year for Melky who can be easily replaced hes a 4th outfielder on most teams.
 
Rooney1987 said:
He might be overrated as a player but as a deal I think it is a steal. Javy one of the top pitchers in the NL last year for Melky who can be easily replaced hes a 4th outfielder on most teams.
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Javy had a career year last year and generally averages a 4.00 era. He's also failed in the limelight once already. Melky might've been a 4th outfielder on most teams, but he was a 2nd OF on our team, and we're left threadbare without him. Especially in right field, because I have no desire to see Swisher start all year. To term this a steal is silly in my books.
 
nyrfan818 said:
Javy had a career year last year and generally averages a 4.00 era. He's also failed in the limelight once already. Melky might've been a 4th outfielder on most teams, but he was a 2nd OF on our team, and we're left threadbare without him. Especially in right field, because I have no desire to see Swisher start all year. To term this a steal is silly in my books.
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Well there's always the 2002-2008 alternative - forget the pitching and just sign sluggers and then fail to show up in October. Which do you prefer?
 
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