Andersonson
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1 Stam
2 Ferdinand
3 Terry
4 Adams
5 Sol
6 Carvalho
7 Kompany
8 Desailly
9 VVD
10 Johnsen
2 Ferdinand
3 Terry
4 Adams
5 Sol
6 Carvalho
7 Kompany
8 Desailly
9 VVD
10 Johnsen
Yes he absolutely was a DM to be precise.Vinny Jones was a midfielder unless my memory is going.
Dunno how some United fans can rate Vidic below so many other centre backs. He was arguably our best player for at least two title wins.1 Stam
2 Ferdinand
3 Terry
4 Adams
5 Sol
6 Carvalho
7 Kompany
8 Desailly
9 VVD
10 Johnsen
Dunno how some United fans can rate Vidic below so many other centre backs. He was arguably our best player for at least two title wins.
He was twice Premier League player of the season, twice Fifa World XI, 3x ESM team of the year. Rio was never close to a player of the season award, once World XI and once ESM team of the year. He led a team that broke various defensive records and scored key goals.
Opinions are opinions but to not have him in your top 10 PL CBs is an absolutely glaring omission, like not having Henry in your top 10 strikers, or Schmeichel in your top 10 goalkeepers.
But you have Ronny Johnsen ahead of him, Ronny himself would be the first to say he wasn’t in the same league as Vidic.I would have him in my top 15, but not top 10. That doesnt mean he wasnt very good. He was top class. Rio for me was world class
But you have Ronny Johnsen ahead of him, Ronny himself would be the first to say he wasn’t in the same league as Vidic.
Cant we make threads like this more fun like, 'excluding center backs who played for one of the top 6'..
Havent we had enough of the RIO vs Terry vs VVD like discussions?
Chris Fairclough
Phillipe Albert
Colin Henrdry
Would any of the above scrape in or not?
I made my top 10 with your restrictions and tried to make it so they never played for the big six. I assume the top 6 to mean the teams who tried to break away into the super league. Probably missing some obvious ones but can’t think of the top of my head.
1. Des Walker
2. Phil Jagielka
3. Olof Melberg
4 .Brede Hangeland
5. Ugo Eghiou
6. Gareth Southgate
7. Ryan Nelsen
8. Lucas Radabe
9. Ashley Williams
10. Fabricio Coloccini
Very nice list!
Jose Fonte? Fabian Schar? Colin Hendry?
Ah yeah, but was at United before 1992 ofcrouse haha... I thought about Wes Morgen, but only because the Leicester title win..Paul McGrath should probably top that list.
Wes Morgan is one I'd consider too.
Very nice list!
Jose Fonte? Fabian Schar? Colin Hendry?
Ah yeah, but was at United before 1992 ofcrouse haha... I thought about Wes Morgen, but only because the Leicester title win..
Hendry had a stint at City which ruled him out for me, same as Dunne and Distin. Admittedly though it was before before City were version 2.0. Don’t remember Fonte much but Schar is quality when I see him play.
Kompany in these lists but no Gallas, Gallas was a better PL CB than Kompany.
He wasn’t, Gallas was a very good defender who could play CB and LB/RB to a very high level.Kompany in these lists but no Gallas, Gallas was a better PL CB than Kompany.
1:Rio (the best all round defender by a distance!)
2:Terry (a leader of men).
3:Vidic (best pure defender in Premier League history, warrior doesn’t do him justice).
4:VVD (he’s been overrated by the scouse media and his passive style leaves him short of the very best, but undoubtably a top player).
5:Stam (a pure colossus).
6:Carvalho (probably helped make Terry’s reputation).
7: Campbell (rapid at his peak).
8: Kompany (injury prone, overrated but good leadership qualities and some big goals).
9: Dias (hard to fully judge, but I think he’s the best of the current CBs at City).
10: Adam’s (a cnut of the highest order, but a decent player).
11: Saliba (this one is abit premature but if he sticks around I see him going into the top 5. He’s got everything and unlike Van Dyke, he’s actually got the right aggression to go with it).
12: King (another player with everything but injuries robbed him of a higher spot).
13: Pallister (abit before my time).
14: Bruce (top player but before my time).
15: L Martinez (clearly premature but rather than stick someone I don’t know in, I’ll say if he can get over his injuries, Martinez is climbing this list because he’s the best CB I’ve seen at Utd since Rio/Vidic by a long shot and could easily be the best in the league alongside Saliba).
Overall it’s quite tough to compare eras, and I obviously have abit of recency bias having not really seen the early Premier League years. I do think Rio is some way ahead of the pack. Tough for me between Terry and Vidic. Terry was more of a leader, but Vidic was just incredible and I think he’s hugely underrated overall. He had a ball magnet in his head, biggest beast in the air I’ve ever seen and stylistically was the kind of defender I wanted to be! Behind the top 5 there’s a drop. Players that either had the ability but didn’t stay injury free long enough, or modern players who just haven’t been around long enough to establish their legacies. It’s a poor era for CBs though overall.
6:Carvalho (probably helped make Terry’s reputation).
Carvalho was amazing for Porto well before he got to Chelsea.I feel like this gets said so much but I always disagree, and no-one ever says it in reverse, that Terry helped make Carvalho's reputation, which I think is much closer to the truth. Terry played 16 years at the top. Carvalho was around for 5-6 of them. He won the title playing every game aged 35 with Cahill as his partner. Having a world class partner isn't something that should be held against either of them, otherwise one could also say Rio helped make Vidic's reputation or vice versa, but no-one ever says that.
Carvalho was amazing for Porto well before he got to Chelsea.
I was asking myself the same… maybe they’re Liverpool fans but even then, Van Dijk, Matip, Konate, Hyypia, are all miles better than Carragher.How is Carragher creeping into people's lists?he was bang average throughout his entire career, even spending some of his 'peak' years at RB to make way for two better Liverpool CBs. His punditry seems to have elevated his playing career in the same way it has for Micah Richards.
1) Rio - best defender Ive seen in the PL. The composure and reading of the game gave him an edge. Apart from that spell where he had the silly afro hair. Bit of an obnoxious twazzock (in his playing days)1 Stam
2 Ferdinand
3 Terry
4 Adams
5 Sol
6 Carvalho
7 Kompany
8 Desailly
9 VVD
10 Johnsen
There’s simply no way that’s true.
He wasn’t, Gallas was a very good defender who could play CB and LB/RB to a very high level.
Gallas was not as good of a CB as Kompany, let alone as a leader.
Kompany took his team over the line with title deciding goals, Gallas cried on the pitch as Arsenal captain.
Not even remotely close, different level.
I'm sure he'll heed that advice in a couple of months when Slot has them kicking about mid table.You should probably spend a little less time on a Utd forum if this is your go-to reaction.