Ángel Di María | Transferred to PSG

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Captain Hindsight said:
Of course. I should have put that in the post.
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Why stop there? Stick Ronaldo and Benzema up front, sign Ramos and we might finally see why he's so highly rated.

I'm being snide here but don't you think it's possible that his hot streak for 6 months at Madrid was a freakish combination of a unique set of players in a formation which perfectly suited his abilities, combined with a once in a career run of form?

It's not as though his career up until this point hinted at him being a dominant CM in any league, never mind one as physical as the PL. Take away the protection given by Spanish referees and he was bullied far too easily. Not that he even looked up for the fight tbh. Just seemed like an incredibly soft player. No courage whatsoever.
 
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Pogue Mahone said:
Why stop there? Stick Ronaldo and Benzema up front, sign Ramos and we might finally start to get the best out of him.
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I forgot the part where football was an individuals game and your team mates performances have no bearing on your own.

Silly me.
 
shamans said:
Am I the only one who thinks it's classless and cheap to make fun of his appearance? :confused: Saying he's a pussy or that he has no balls is one thing but to make fun of how he looks is just childish.
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I agree, I am guilty of calling him a pussy, but would never insult anybody about their appearance, mind you I am shocked he can even walk , what with having no backbone.
 
Everything about di Maria's time here seems so alien to United. From the big money, galactico signing, to his lack of effort and commitment, to his pathetic lack of perseverance and dedication. I barely even care he's leaving, because it feels like I'm watching this all go on at another club I can't relate to.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
The bit in bold didn't happen. The other criticisms of decisions Van Gaal made in that post are just different ways of saying the same thing. He played him in a few different (yet broadly similar) posiitions. Poor Angel. Must have been so hard for him.
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Definitely what I was trying to say. Well read. Come on Pogue, ffs. I'm simply agreeing with Cina that LVG also bears a share of the blame.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Why stop there? Stick Ronaldo and Benzema up front, sign Ramos and we might finally see why he's so highly rated.

I'm being snide here but don't you think it's possible that his hot streak for 6 months at Madrid was a freakish combination of a unique set of players in a formation which perfectly suited his abilities, combined with a once in a career run of form?

It's not as though his career up until this point hinted at him being a dominant CM in any league, never mind one as physical as the PL. Take away the protection given by Spanish referees and he was bullied far too easily. Not that he even looked up for the fight tbh. Just seemed like an incredibly soft player. No courage whatsoever.
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You can put it on the formation but he was incredible in a well-contested friendly for Argentina vs Germany prior to last season, completely tore them up while playing on the right wing.

I'd think it was a good run of form, kind of a purple patch where all his inconsistencies went out the window for a stretch of time. He's not very different from someone like Nani, who was the kind of player he reminded me of when he played for Benfica. Immensely talented but incredibly challenged at decision making.
 
Brightonian said:
Definitely what I was trying to say. Well read. Come on Pogue, ffs. I'm simply agreeing with Cina that LVG also bears a share of the blame.
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Well I agree with you too. He signed him after all.

Where we seem to disagree is the idea that the positions Di Maria was asked to play are a key factor in his failure. It's chicken and egg really. He started off in his "best" position and I think none of the subsequent shifting around would have happened if he hadn't been such a lightweight in a position/league which has such an emphasis on physicality.

My take on events is that Di Maria never once looked cut out to be a PL central midfielder (which quickly became apparent when he tried to play there) so he had to contribute further forward/out wide or not at all. He was given an opportunity to show he could hack it in those other positions and completely failed to take it. Spinning this as the manager making life unnecesarily hard for him is missing the point IMO. If anything, all those tweaks were done to try and help him.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Well I agree with you too. He signed him after all.

Where we seem to disagree is the idea that the positions Di Maria was asked to play are a key factor in his failure. It's chicken and egg really. He started off in his "best" position and I think none of the subsequent shifting around would have happened if he hadn't been such a lightweight in a position/league which has such an emphasis on physicality.

My take on events is that Di Maria never once looked cut out to be a PL central midfielder (which quickly became apparent when he tried to play there) so he had to contribute further forward/out wide or not at all. He was given an opportunity to show he could hack it in those other positions and completely failed to take it. Spinning this as the manager making life unnecesarily hard for him is missing the point IMO. If anything, all those tweaks were done to try and help him.
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Hard to disagree with this. He has bags of talent, but he didn't show it after his first month or 6 weeks with us. Whether or not CM or wing is his best position, he has the talent to excel as a winger for us and didn't, for whatever reason. He failed, he flopped, whatever you want to say but he certainly never looked a British record signing. Even at the start of the season when he was playing well, we'd still have expected more. Instead we got less and less. He didn't want to be here, he didn't try and we're better off recouping what we can and reinvesting it in the squad.
 
I don't think he's been a pussy or such. Truth is somewhere in the middle. I'm incline to agree with what Oliver Kay wrote in The Times that his playing style was incompatible with Lvg's brand of football and the reason why Lvg ditched him.

But there's no excuse for showing lack of effort on the pitch though. And he deserves every abuse he gets for that.
 
so now that means Verratti holding, Matuidi box to box for him to play like in last season at Real?
 
Wonder how long it'll take him to sign on the dotted line.

I have the urge to call him a rat faced cnut again...but I'm going to rise above it, and refrain from doing so.
 
I do agree that in part van gaal did mismanage di maira, but di maria looked mentally destroyed the moment he started losing form then losing his place, he had zero confidence and every time he was on the pitch he was almost the worst one playing, compare him to players like mata and herrera who were dropped all the time but always tried to make an impact and finally managed to force their way into the team.

Di maria is a big talent but he has no fight in him and mentally weak. I don't care if it works out for him at PSG, all i know is that it wasn't working here, dude had no balls.
 
darioterios said:
so now that means Verratti holding, Matuidi box to box for him to play like in last season at Real?
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Blanc has options, there are a few players who will be guaranteed starters and they are Matuidi/Verratti/Motta (if he stays)/Cavani/Ibrahimovic/Di Maria.
Maybe Pastore will be the one who will suffer the most from this signing ?

royboy16 said:
So when did the rumors of him being unhappy and wanting to go to PSG actually rear its head,was it early last year ?
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Even before he signed for us.
 
Thought he was a cnut when he was at Madrid. I was right.

That being said, his goal against Leicester is one of my favorite United goals of the last 10 years.
 
I really wanted him to stay at first but in the end, we should only want players that are 100% commited to our club. It was rather obvious PSG was his first choice last summer as weird as that is, so there's a lsson to learn from all this. Only sign players that have us as first choice.
 
I would've liked to see him prove himself, but as talented as he is if he doesn't want to be here and give his 100% for this club then good riddance.

don't like seeing us make a loss on him but better shipping him off now than sticking with him for another year and take a bigger loss and another year's wage wasted on him.
 
van Persie said:
I really wanted him to stay at first but in the end, we should only want players that are 100% commited to our club. It was rather obvious PSG was his first choice last summer as weird as that is, so there's a lsson to learn from all this. Only sign players that have us as first choice.
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A lot of people are clamouring for Bale, and he too has made it obvious that we arent close to his first choice..but we'll keep chasing the Galatico
 
I was in United's dressing room at Old Trafford today. Di Maria's shirt still hangs on the hook.

True story
 
I doubt he was a LVG signing last summer, I think United were just desperate to sign big names so that's why LVG let him go so easily. No loss, he's a failure.
 
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